Punjabi Language

[JSinghnz]

Amritsar or Ambarsar??

Amritsar for Sikhs and Ambarsar for crude, backward Punjabis.

[JagsawSingh]

Amritsar for Sikhs and Ambarsar for crude, backward Punjabis.

No. Apart for the city folk, who have been heavily influenced by Hindi, normal native Punjabi speakers pronounce it as Ambarsar.

If you listen to Sant Jarnail Singh Bhindrawale's speeches he too used to pronunce it as Ambarsar. Are you suggesting he too was not a Sikh ?

Its like how in ealing u have northolt and southall,which used 2 b called southolt, but changed somehow. Infact now its called sowwwthhaaaall. I heard its got sumink 2 do with those panjabis lol

Its really funny you should say that because its actually true for the town just 2 miles south of Southall : Hounslow. When I was a kid I used to criticise my elders for pronouncing it 'Hunslaw'.

It was only as I got older that I learned that it was we, the British born, who were wrong, because over time we corrupted the original saxon name for the town which was 'Hundslawe' and started pronouncing it Hounslow, which I suppose is somewhat grammaticay correct because over time the English word Hund has transformed into Hound etc. But still, I say give 100% respect to the Punjabi elders who (unknowingly) started pronouncing the word exactly as it was mentioned in the Doomesday Book of the year 1086.

The lesson here is never, ever underestimate the knowledge of a Punjabi farmer. :cool2:

[simran345]

Id rather be a backwards than a ahankari show off know it all not. By saying that u are putting down all our elders that worked so hard for us. Jagsaw Singh paji agree with u totally, u know wat ur on about, good knowledge.

[Jonny101]

Amritsar for Sikhs and Ambarsar for crude, backward Punjabis.

Yes, that is a valid point. As dutiful Sikhs we should make it a point to pronounce it using it's proper name as our Guru Sahib Jee had intended. Amritsar is our holiest city. No trip to Punjab is complete without a visit to Amritsar.

Although Pendu Punjabi is the purest of Punjabi but sometimes Pendu Punjabi does not equate to proper Gurmukhi Punjabi. Not too long ago many people from the villages used to do Ucharan of Vaheguru as BahaGuru. My Grandmother used to say this like this too.

Gurmukhi words should be pronounced properly

[simran345]

So y did people from there also say Ambarsar? Ambarsar is different form of pronunciation. It's not a slander word, how some people are making out. Ambarsar means Pool of Ambrosia. It was also called Ramdaspur.

[Jonny101]

So y did people from there also say Ambarsar? Ambarsar is different form of pronunciation. It's not a slander word, how some people are making out. Ambarsar means Pool of Ambrosia. It was also called Ramdaspur.

I think you are confusing colloquial conversational language with proper literary language. No doubt many Pendu Amritsaris themselves incorrectly call Amritsar as Ambarsar. But Amritsar is a Gurmukhi word which was uttered by the Gurus themselves. How can we change something that the Gurus had uttered from their mouths? The Gurus were also from Lahore/Amritsar areas. They could have also called it Ambarsar but they didn't. They called it Amritsar. So we should pronounce it as our Guru Jees had wanted it instead of how village folk from Amritsar pronounce it today.

For a Sikh, Gurmukhi Punjabi should take precedence over regular Punjabi

[simran345]

I think you are confusing colloquial conversational language with proper literary language. No doubt many Pendu Amritsaris themselves incorrectly call Amritsar as Ambarsar. But Amritsar is a Gurmukhi word which was uttered by the Gurus themselves. How can we change something that the Gurus had uttered from their mouths? The Gurus were also from Lahore/Amritsar areas. They could have also called it Ambarsar but they didn't. They called it Amritsar. So we should pronounce it as our Guru Jees had wanted it instead of how village folk from Amritsar pronounce it today.

Thanku paji Jonny101 I didn't know that as don't have knowledge of Gurbani. As never seen it anywhere in Gurbani, could u please give an example.

[JSinghnz]

I think you are confusing colloquial conversational language with proper literary language. No doubt many Pendu Amritsaris themselves incorrectly call Amritsar as Ambarsar. But Amritsar is a Gurmukhi word which was uttered by the Gurus themselves. How can we change something that the Gurus had uttered from their mouths? The Gurus were also from Lahore/Amritsar areas. They could have also called it Ambarsar but they didn't. They called it Amritsar. So we should pronounce it as our Guru Jees had wanted it instead of how village folk from Amritsar pronounce it today.

For a Sikh, Gurmukhi Punjabi should take precedence over regular Punjabi

Brother this would be too difficult for some Punjabis to digest.

[simran345]

It's ok paji I know now, Amritsar sifti da ghar , gurbani Vichy aunda a. Okji from now I will try to say Amritsar. See some can digest it JSinghz paji ..

[JagsawSingh]

I don't know why.....I mean there must be a reason......but I just don't know why some of you are covering your eyes and ears and pretending that you just haven't seen or heard how Sant Jarnail Singh Bhindranwale, in his speeches, also used to call Amritsar 'Ambarsar'.

You see and read that and yet you still continue to label all those that do as 'illiterate backward pendus' and non-sikhs. :wow: