Christmas Trees In Houses Of Sikhs

[sikhiseeker]

Why do you sometimes wear western jeans ? They're something that have nothing to do withour forefathers. If they look nice, why do you take them off ? Why not keep them on all the time ?

Just like jeans have no meaning to you, your family or your heritage. Just like the jeans, the trees are harmless but why the hypocricy about which western traditions you wish to partake in and which you don't ?

Wallpaper ?

Clocks ?

Carpet ?

Is there no limit to the things you disaprove of because they have no relevance tour heritage or is it something you have personally against harmless trees ?

I pity the children of many of the members here. The holiday season is not about you....its not for you. Its for the children to join in and have fun. Thats what being a child is all about. As I said before, apart from some of you here nobody in the developed world associates the holiday season with Jesus and Christianity.

I spent my wholelife dismissing intolerant Muslims for refusing to integrate...refusing to let their children be productive members of the society they live in. Never in a million years did I imagine that a new generation of young adult Sikhs would be of the same ilk. Disappointing to say the least.

WJKK WJKF

Veer ji, the Rehat Maryada states that a sikh has no restriction on clothes, other than obviously the panj kakkar. I don't see how wearing jeans or living in a house with carpets has anything to do with celebrating a Christian religious festival. Do you think Sikhs should live in the caves or jungles restricted themselves from all modern/western customs which have nothing to do with religion?

Children should have fun, but on vaisakhi, hola mohalla, Bandi chor and the diwas of our gurus and Mahaan shaheed.....not Christmas.

Also, no apology?

[JagsawSingh]

No comment.

Apparently the powers that be here have decided that putting the clock back half a century and deciding the whole world associates christmas with Jesus and Christianity must be the final word.

End of conversation. Hot thread turned stone cold dead in an instant. A masterclass in discussion forum management. :blink2:

Please my brothers and sisters. Please do not address any more points and questions towards me. If I'm not allowed to reply and answer than you'll just be wasting your own valuable time.

[luckysingh99]

no respect....no discussion.....

No one is any better a sikh......just a bunch of ego pumpers !

[gurdssingh]

Question - do the anti Christmas tree jatha aka let's ruin Christmas for my putt cos I'm too tight to buy presents, also disagree with Christmas cards?

As I presume you don't buy cards for your kids to give to their friends but how do you explain to them it's manmatt to accept cards your school friends have given you? Don't even accept them and just throw them back in their faces as it is forbidden, cos you will have issues when you grow up, as your faith in Sikhi will be corrupted.

[JSinghnz]

Question - do the anti Christmas tree jatha aka let's ruin Christmas for my putt cos I'm too tight to buy presents, also disagree with Christmas cards?

As I presume you don't buy cards for your kids to give to their friends but how do you explain to them it's manmatt to accept cards your school friends have given you? Don't even accept them and just throw them back in their faces as it is forbidden, cos you will have issues when you grow up, as your faith in Sikhi will be corrupted.

Sad to hear about your tightness and habit of buying Christmas gifts for your putt.

[gurdssingh]

Sad to hear about your tightness and habit of buying Christmas gifts for your putt.

Sorry, but I had difficultly interpreting that? So To clarify I am being tight by buying present for my kids? I know in New Zealand they speak English, so makes no sense? Also is that the only thing You could pick up and comment on?

[gurdssingh]

So j Singh do you have children!

Edit ? Not !

[Jonny101]

So j Singh do you have children!

Edit ? Not !

So Sikhs in western countries celebrating Christmas is only done because of Children? so should Sikh parents who live in overwhelmingly Hindu majority areas of India like UP/Bihar etc, should they start celebrating Janamastmi and Navratri and other Hindu holidays because they dont want their children to be left out? or Sikhs in Islamic countries should start celebrating Eid or even Mawlid because they don't want their kids to be left out of the celebrations of Muslims? No wonder so many of our kids in the west grow up confused and end up marrying non Sikhs.

[Koi]

Question - do the anti Christmas tree jatha aka let's ruin Christmas for my putt cos I'm too tight to buy presents, also disagree with Christmas cards?

As I presume you don't buy cards for your kids to give to their friends but how do you explain to them it's manmatt to accept cards your school friends have given you? Don't even accept them and just throw them back in their faces as it is forbidden, cos you will have issues when you grow up, as your faith in Sikhi will be corrupted.

There is an extent to which it is appropriate to take part in any celebration. However, that doesn't mean we ourselves take on board those very traditions.

I would like to ask all those who put up Christmas trees etc. How many of them teach their children about the ithihaas of the Sahibzade, as there shaheedian are around that time? How many of them have made the effort to listen to the ithihaasic katha?

I know that Sikh2Inspire have done lareevaar katha of Suraj Prakash Granth for both Saka Sarhind and Chamkaur translated in to English. Very detailed, very moving, very inspiring.

Please make an effort to listen to it this year, no excuses.

[hsingh8963]

Links koi? To saka sirhind