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6" and 10" will be the full length.

Veer ji what are the prices for each ? Also would it be possible for wooden mian for these ?

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ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂ ਜੀ ਕਾ ਖਾਲਸਾ ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂ ਜੀ ਕੀ ਫਤਹ ਕੀ

We decided that 6" was too small so we have made 7" instead which will be ready by next week. The price will be £30. Only leather mians available but will they will be easily attachable to any gatra. We will post some pics once they are ready.

We still have the last design kirpans that were 10.5" still available for £40.

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These are sarbloh

The khanda Sri guru gobind Singh Ji used was for khande do pahul was not sarbloh but wootz Damascus steel

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These are sarbloh

The khanda Sri guru gobind Singh Ji used was for khande do pahul was not sarbloh but wootz Damascus steel

Veer ji

please elaborate where this info is from because I have never heard this before , and the panth have always used sarbloh khanda in sanchars

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All puratan shastars were made of Damascus wootz steel. Up until the 1900's only wootz steel was used for shastars. With the invention of the gun the art of making wootz steel has been lost. If you look at the puratan shastars of the gurus or the Singh they are made out of wootz steel because there is a wootz pattern on it. Sarbloh is actually not very good because pure sarbloh is brittle and would have never been good for fighting. In reality sarbloh guru Ji is talking about most likely be wootz Damascus. The khanda maharaj used on vasakhi on 1699 is is available to see at Sri Anandpur sahib. That khanda too is wootz Damascus.

For the last couple of years I have been studying blademaking and have a couple of wootz Damascus shastars myself.

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The shastars that this Singh makes is not pure Damascus. This is mechanical patternwelded Damascus that try's to imitate the puratan wootz Damascus steel.

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The shastars that this Singh makes is not pure Damascus. This is mechanical patternwelded Damascus that try's to imitate the puratan wootz Damascus steel.

I have heard that no one really knows how to make real Damascus steel anymore. It is now a lost art. Most people today just make those patterns on it and pass it off as damascus steel. Now many around the world are trying to rediscover this long lost art. Hope someone succeeds because I want a real Damascus steel Shastar.

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These kirpans are made from modern mechanical damascus. The pattern is only visible after the kirpan has been etched and the final heat treatment and polish is done. The pattern is not just made on top of them.

The reason why we started making these kirpans was to provide Gursikhs with real quality usable shasters and not for personal gain or a 'business venture'.

All puratan shasters as Singh123456777 pointed out were not made from pure iron and the khanda that Guru Ji used was wootz. The main concern that should be made is why is the 'khanda' that is most frequently used in amrit sanchars today not even a real shaster?

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All puratan shastars were made of Damascus wootz steel. Up until the 1900's only wootz steel was used for shastars. With the invention of the gun the art of making wootz steel has been lost. If you look at the puratan shastars of the gurus or the Singh they are made out of wootz steel because there is a wootz pattern on it. Sarbloh is actually not very good because pure sarbloh is brittle and would have never been good for fighting. In reality sarbloh guru Ji is talking about most likely be wootz Damascus. The khanda maharaj used on vasakhi on 1699 is is available to see at Sri Anandpur sahib. That khanda too is wootz Damascus.

For the last couple of years I have been studying blademaking and have a couple of wootz Damascus shastars myself.

the damacus you are talking about is like that what japanese swordsmith made katanas of , very long process involving multiple folds and firings and quenching ...I think they fold up to 37 times

I agree pig iron is way too brittle and even purified iron doesn't hold edge well that's what threw me when I saw Guru ji's Khanda in Anandpur Sahib , it's like we have been reduced to hollow imitations of puratan sikhs...it kills me inside ...why are we so scared of being the real deal??

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All puratan shastars were made of Damascus wootz steel. Up until the 1900's only wootz steel was used for shastars. With the invention of the gun the art of making wootz steel has been lost. If you look at the puratan shastars of the gurus or the Singh they are made out of wootz steel because there is a wootz pattern on it. Sarbloh is actually not very good because pure sarbloh is brittle and would have never been good for fighting. In reality sarbloh guru Ji is talking about most likely be wootz Damascus. The khanda maharaj used on vasakhi on 1699 is is available to see at Sri Anandpur sahib. That khanda too is wootz Damascus.

For the last couple of years I have been studying blademaking and have a couple of wootz Damascus shastars myself.

veer ji where are you based ? my son was interested in swordsmithing...

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veer ji where are you based ? my son was interested in swordsmithing...

I'm in ontario canada. I used to dabble in black smithing for a few years.

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I have heard that no one really knows how to make real Damascus steel anymore. It is now a lost art. Most people today just make those patterns on it and pass it off as damascus steel. Now many around the world are trying to rediscover this long lost art. Hope someone succeeds because I want a real Damascus steel Shastar.

Its a lost art because the invention of the firearm rendered the sword useless.

There is a blacksmith in Wisconsin USA called Richard furrer who is claiming he has made the old wootz steel again. He was featured in a program by PBS about the ulfberth Viking blade and it was really cool. You should check it out.

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the damacus you are talking about is like that what japanese swordsmith made katanas of , very long process involving multiple folds and firings and quenching ...I think they fold up to 37 times

I agree pig iron is way too brittle and even purified iron doesn't hold edge well that's what threw me when I saw Guru ji's Khanda in Anandpur Sahib , it's like we have been reduced to hollow imitations of puratan sikhs...it kills me inside ...why are we so scared of being the real deal??

The Japanese steel is called Tamahagane. Tamahagane can only be made by sand found in certain places. You are correct that it's folded many times. Guru di Kirpa naal I wish I could learn from some Japanese blacksmiths.

These kirpans are made from modern mechanical damascus. The pattern is only visible after the kirpan has been etched and the final heat treatment and polish is done. The pattern is not just made on top of them.

The reason why we started making these kirpans was to provide Gursikhs with real quality usable shasters and not for personal gain or a 'business venture'.

All puratan shasters as Singh123456777 pointed out were not made from pure iron and the khanda that Guru Ji used was wootz. The main concern that should be made is why is the 'khanda' that is most frequently used in amrit sanchars today not even a real shaster?

Its all pattern welded etc.

If anybody wants to know more about swordsmithing I highly recommend this book http://www.amazon.ca/The-Complete-Bladesmith-Forging-Perfection/dp/1581606338

I myself have this book and it's totally awesome.

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