A Crazy Story From Partition

[Premi5]

21 minutes ago, dallysingh101 said:

 

It was really interesting to note some some zamindaars converted to islam at partition to keep their lands (and throats whole). Never knew that before.  

 

Not a 'crazy' one, but reminder of how bad the time was. Don't know if they were landowners

[chatanga1]

19 hours ago, 5aaban said:

I've read about other Kapurthala kings becoming Christians too but that's debated. 
 

Raja Sir Harnam Singh Ahluwalia , KCIE (15 November 1851 – 20 May 1930) was a member of the Kapurthala royal family in the direct line founded by Jassa Singh Ahluwalia.

A converted Christian, he was the first president of the All India Conference of Indian Christians, which played an important role in the Indian independence movement, advocating for self-rule and opposing the partition of India.

Raja Harnam Singh was not the Maharaja of Kapurthala but one of his sons. Such a shame as this lineage goes back to Sultan Ul Quam Jassa Singh Ahluwalia.

 

9 hours ago, Premi5 said:

 

Not a 'crazy' one, but reminder of how bad the time was. Don't know if they were landowners

 

These pictures are from a report by the SGPC, on the "Rape of Rawalpindi" in March 1947.

 

The Muslim League killed over 7000 Sikhs and made over 100,000 homeless in the space of some 6 or 7 days. This village pictured was a Sikh village which were forced to become Muslims or face the men being killed and their daughters and wives taken. The men capitulated in order to save their women in reality.

This village was where the men were all circumcised forcibly and had their heads shaved even though in islam for any male passing the age of 7 (I think) circumcision is not obligatory.

 

It was a very vicious campaign killing twice as many Sikhs as in November 1984, yet majority of Sikhs I've interacted with don't even know this.

 

Furthermore, it was the Sikhs who escaped Rawalpindi in March, who caused most bloodshed of the Muslims in Patiala, where the Sikhs were given refuge by Maharaja Yadvinder Singh. Maharaja Yadvinder Singh wrote in his memoirs about the Sikhs seeking refuge in his state, and it was most appalling what had happened to them.

[dallysingh101]

On 6/5/2022 at 9:11 PM, chatanga1 said:

Furthermore, it was the Sikhs who escaped Rawalpindi in March, who caused most bloodshed of the Muslims in Patiala, where the Sikhs were given refuge by Maharaja Yadvinder Singh. Maharaja Yadvinder Singh wrote in his memoirs about the Sikhs seeking refuge in his state, and it was most appalling what had happened to them.

Paul Chowdhry's family is from Rawalpindi.  

[ipledgeblue]

1 hour ago, dallysingh101 said:

Paul Chowdhry's family is from Rawalpindi.  

but they cut their hair, so didn't completely escape and left part of themselves behind to the islamic extremism.

[dallysingh101]

4 hours ago, ipledgeblue said:

but they cut their hair, so didn't completely escape and left part of themselves behind to the islamic extremism.

I don't get what you are saying. His dad was a keshdhari Sikh when he first come here. Dealt with race attacks, and Paul probably has done more to highlight racism than any other Sikh here.  That's not someone I would call a sell-out. 

[ipledgeblue]

4 minutes ago, dallysingh101 said:

I don't get what you are saying. His dad was a keshdhari Sikh when he first come here. Dealt with race attacks, and Paul probably has more to highlight racism than any other Sikh here.  That's not someone I would call a sell-out. 

I didn't know his dad was keshdhari. But I remember from the photos it showed sikhs being forcefully haircut and being forced into islam in Rawalpindi. Those sikhs saw kesh as their strength and commitment to Guru sahib so either died fighting or were beaten into cutting them. When someone from those families that left Pakistan cuts their hair, especially in cases like Rawalpindi and other genocide areas, it spits on their memories and sacrifices, in a way making them worse as cowards and wimps that cut their hair due to sheep mentality as opposed to being tough and strong until forced by violent extremism. It also ESPECIALLY makes it worse as these were families who escaped anti-sikh genocide relatively recently as opposed to those who have to look at shaheedi such as chotta and wadda ghallughara as examples in the past.

[dallysingh101]

15 minutes ago, ipledgeblue said:

I didn't know his dad was keshdhari. But I remember from the photos it showed sikhs being forcefully haircut and being forced into islam in Rawalpindi. Those sikhs saw kesh as their strength and commitment to Guru sahib so either died fighting or were beaten into cutting them. When someone from those families that left Pakistan cuts their hair, especially in cases like Rawalpindi and other genocide areas, it spits on their memories and sacrifices, in a way making them worse as cowards and wimps that cut their hair due to sheep mentality as opposed to being tough and strong until forced by violent extremism. It also ESPECIALLY makes it worse as these were families who escaped anti-sikh genocide relatively recently as opposed to those who have to look at shaheedi such as chotta and wadda ghallughara as examples in the past.

I think there are hordes of keshdhari Sikhs who are complete, docile sell-outs too. I wouldn't belittle the life experiences of those old schoolers here, especially if they raised a son like Paul myself personally. Someone who is not only hilarious and witty but conscious too. 

You might want to watch or rewatch this: 

 

[ipledgeblue]

21 hours ago, dallysingh101 said:

I think there are hordes of keshdhari Sikhs who are complete, docile sell-outs too. I wouldn't belittle the life experiences of those old schoolers here, especially if they raised a son like Paul myself personally. Someone who is not only hilarious and witty but conscious too. 

You might want to watch or rewatch this: 

 

will try to watch it later. But it's crazy to see people won' cut it for muslims but will vut their hair for whiteman gora recognition. We shouldn't be wanting anyone's recognition beside Guru. As soon as persons put someone else between Guru and themselves, then they fall down!