Naam Dhirr

[anokhi9]

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What other jathas beside akj still give naam dhirr?

I heard a rumor that nanaksar does. Is this true.

Please don't say tapoban because they are akj (well the taksal of akj Lmao)

NOTE: not looking for comments on a validity of naam dhir. People should do sangat of many gursikhs and figure it out for themselves.

Thanks!

[ms514]

VAHEGURU JI KA KHALSA, VAHEGURU JI KI FATEH

All should. It is written in the Sikh Rehat Maryada, Damdami Taksal Maryada. Giving of Naam is something that is supposed to be a part of every Amrit Sanchar.

The techniques can vary per the mauj of Guru Sahib, but all should be receiving the Gurmantar/Naam in the Amrit Sanchar and given the knowledge on how to recite Naam.

[anokhi9]

VAHEGURU JI KA KHALSA, VAHEGURU JI KI FATEH

All should. It is written in the Sikh Rehat Maryada, Damdami Taksal Maryada. Giving of Naam is something that is supposed to be a part of every Amrit Sanchar.

The techniques can vary per the mauj of Guru Sahib, but all should be receiving the Gurmantar/Naam in the Amrit Sanchar and given the knowledge on how to recite Naam.

Ideally yes, but it doesn't work out that way, montreal singh

Taksalis jathas don't give dhirr.

[ms514]

VAHEGURU JI KA KHALSA VAHEGURU JI KI FATEH

Are we confusing swas swas technique of doing Naam Simran with being given Naam? There are different stages of reciting Naam and different ways (related to stages to some extent). You can refer to Sant Baba Attar Singh's book (forgot name, its his more expanded biography) which goes through techniques. You can also refer to the ten stages of Naam Simran by Sant Baba Hari Singh of Randhawa for a 30 minute Katha on stages of Naam. Bhai Raghbir Singh's Banginama also goes over some of the evolution if Naam. Techniques can evolve as kamai progresses. Past kamai can also influence how Naam manifests itself when you are given it at the Amrit sanchar.

Specific to Taksal, the maryada speaks of the Punj Pyare instructing the new initiates in Naam Simran technique by reciting Gurmantar 5 times (Mool Mantar 5 times as well). Reference is Gurmat Rehat Maryada. Katha on Sant Giani Gurbachan Singh of Taksal narrated by Sant Hari Singh also talked of how when Sant Ji's Naam Simran had not stopped from the moment he was given Naam by the Punj Pyare - awake or asleep, sitting or standing etc.

Lastly, never been to Montreal...am from U.S.

[Not2Cool2Argue]

VAHEGURU JI KA KHALSA VAHEGURU JI KI FATEH

Are we confusing swas swas technique of doing Naam Simran with being given Naam? There are different stages of reciting Naam and different ways (related to stages to some extent). You can refer to Sant Baba Attar Singh's book (forgot name, its his more expanded biography) which goes through techniques. You can also refer to the ten stages of Naam Simran by Sant Baba Hari Singh of Randhawa for a 30 minute Katha on stages of Naam. Bhai Raghbir Singh's Banginama also goes over some of the evolution if Naam. Techniques can evolve as kamai progresses. Past kamai can also influence how Naam manifests itself when you are given it at the Amrit sanchar.

Specific to Taksal, the maryada speaks of the Punj Pyare instructing the new initiates in Naam Simran technique by reciting Gurmantar 5 times (Mool Mantar 5 times as well). Reference is Gurmat Rehat Maryada. Katha on Sant Giani Gurbachan Singh of Taksal narrated by Sant Hari Singh also talked of how when Sant Ji's Naam Simran had not stopped from the moment he was given Naam by the Punj Pyare - awake or asleep, sitting or standing etc.

Lastly, never been to Montreal...am from U.S.

Getting naam n naam drird r different at least at this time. In past I think all got naam drird.it is when u get liv of naam n ajapa jaap of naam starts. Some work for it many years, some get it from mahapurkh ( bhai veer Singh talks about this alot usually get it from saparsh of mahapurkh) n some get it from panj pyare. Its like a jump start n u just have to keep it going once u get it.

[jkvlondon]

Getting naam n naam drird r different at least at this time. In past I think all got naam drird.it is when u get liv of naam n ajapa jaap of naam starts. Some work for it many years, some get it from mahapurkh ( bhai veer Singh talks about this alot usually get it from saparsh of mahapurkh) n some get it from panj pyare. Its like a jump start n u just have to keep it going once u get it.

this is what is being referred too definitely panj supposed to start naam dridhouna and check the abilakhee has technique down ...first time I had amrit we all did naam abihaas for a good hour after in sangat of panj and new sisters and brothers

[alias]

"naam drir" is commercialized now!

naam can only be given by your guru or wherever guru is prakash! which is why amrit sunchaar is always done in the hajoori of punj piyaare.

naam drir comes after viraag stage. a true traveller, has naam "drirta"!

if someone shouts at you, your heart shudders! that aint no drir matie! same goes with " naam drir" wrt akjs. i myself go to plenty of rensabais and have no qualms with any way anyone wishes to "jup naam".

the rolling of the tongue is commercialized! what about feet. heartbeat. hair. its not all about the "drirrrr".

naam is god himself and not just sounds, feelings and words.

ultimately, drirta can only be given when naam goes anhad, and this is done by guru's kirpa. not if u take amrit from specific places !. so the point of " who dishes out naam drir " is literally invalid!.

apologies if my frustrations on this came across as harsh..

dhan guru sada.

[jkvlondon]

"naam drir" is commercialized now!

naam can only be given by your guru or wherever guru is prakash! which is why amrit sunchaar is always done in the hajoori of punj piyaare.

naam drir comes after viraag stage. a true traveller, has naam "drirta"!

if someone shouts at you, your heart shudders! that aint no drir matie! same goes with " naam drir" wrt akjs. i myself go to plenty of rensabais and have no qualms with any way anyone wishes to "jup naam".

the rolling of the tongue is commercialized! what about feet. heartbeat. hair. its not all about the "drirrrr".

naam is god himself and not just sounds, feelings and words.

ultimately, drirta can only be given when naam goes anhad, and this is done by guru's kirpa. not if u take amrit from specific places !. so the point of " who dishes out naam drir " is literally invalid!.

apologies if my frustrations on this came across as harsh..

dhan guru sada.

veera no tongue rolling involved I think you are confusing josh with what I said ... never mind jinna nam japia ohi jaanda

[Guest alias]

Sure it is josh. I agree with that. But what should be josh, soon turns into hype over anything. Thats not the meaning of naam. The confusion comes from people who dont know what they're doing going on about getting drirta and feeling josh. I'd say to them, ever heard of trying to anhad vuj your feelings and cone to unison with urself?.. to me, thats the true drirta.

[alias]

Sure it is josh. I agree with that. But what should be josh, soon turns into hype over anything. Thats not the meaning of naam. The confusion comes from people who dont know what they're doing going on about getting drirta and feeling josh. I'd say to them, ever heard of trying to anhad vuj your feelings and cone to unison with urself?.. to me, thats the true drirta.

And apologies! !!! Hajoori of **GURU GRANTH SAhIB**!!!.. was a typo saying hajoori of punj.