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At the end of the day we Sikhs have a duty to rise above everything and everyone else and stand for truth. For that reason, we stand with the fallen victims and we also understand the hurt felt by Muslims.

Agree with the above statement..

There is always HUGE inequality over the death of a brown person and white person. Compare coverage of death of 100+ kids in Pakistan vs. France attack.

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Jagsaw singh makes a few mind thinking points... but a question that I have for everybody, this means answer the question not sway from it with a counter question..especially for the likes of jkvlondon.....

chaar shabizaade film could have chosen for guru gobind singh ji to speak, but decided to narrate instead...what are your thoughts?

If chaar shahibzade showed physical sex of guru gobind singh and mata jito (though we know better)..what are your thought?

A picture of an amritdhari singh 'bumming' a women with a kirpan...saying in a cartoon bubbly- 'teek ah teeyeh '..translated to 'are you ok daughter'....(1984)...what are your thoughts..

Fantasy tale tells us we would not reacet in this way 'they' respect us....who's us?

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Why are people surprised about Muslims attacking France, precisely those who totally made a mockery of their prophet. The west is a bully and so is the Muslims. The west invaded the Muslims country and the Muslims came back and blow up the world trade centers and killed thousands. Was not this one act by the Muslims enough for the west to understand they will not stop attacking the west for continually poking them? The west attacked other lands like India and they slowly conquered the people to become passive including the Sikhs. The west thought they could do the same to the Muslims and walk away with little damage. The west messed with the wrong people. They messed with psychopaths that breed and train others to kill the Muslims enemy.

Both sides are not innocent in these exchanges of destroying each other. The west wants to dominate the world because they are hungry for power and money. Muslims want to dominate the world for power to rule the world and convert non Muslims.

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WJKK WJKF

Jagsaw Singh has stated all valid points on this topic. The thing is, the headlines in the news we receive will always be edited the way in which the government wants the world to view the situation. Just like the BBC and the coverage of 1984.

The fact that some Sikhs view is that it's total wrong the way these people have acted is valid too, there were other roots before taking the sword however, we cannot stand on our high horse and act that we're so open to critism of Sikhi. As again, one sikh mentioned, we do not have any body act/voice over our guru sahiban.

At the end of the day, yes Islam is the cause of many of the worlds problems at present. But as people on the street, we know it's not a clear cut story as we all think. When EDL protests were happening in my locality, the small Pakistani Muslim community and small sikh community both helped one another as both the mosque and gurdwara had been attacked. Day and night security was set up whilst the Muslims went to pray by the Sikhs and the Muslims guarded the gurdwara with the Sikhs during the protest. Whether we agree or disagree with many points on religion and ethics, respect on a personal, street level is another thing.

The fact of the matter is, the majority of people still will think a sikh is a "p*ki" and Muslim. They do not know we're Sikhs and don't care. The Sikhs who fought in the world war have been forgotten by the west at best, as the gowvernment once again used the Sikhs. No documentary comes on prime time TV about Indias soldiers including Muslims. No rememerance takes the names if the nations and people who fought alongside them in counties up and down the uk.

My point being, all brown people are known as rag heads and ultimately "p*ki". The west will not aknowledge their role in playing the terrorist. The French paper has no right in their radical constant p*ss take of what other people hold sacred.

However other methods could have been used, in our own history, should shaheed Bhai Satwant Singh and Shaheed Bhai Beant Singh of maybe protested in striking from work, held protest rallies at side gov. offices? Why as Sikhs, do we then celebrate their judgement on the matter?

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Jagsaw

The reason you won't hear about Yemen on the news is because it is not on the West's backyard. It is far away, you won't hear much about it on muslim media either because it is muslims killing muslims. The muslims in the west and the left wing elements don't bother either unless it involves Israel.

Plenty of other things done by the members of the Islamic religion in Europe that we do not hear about. We talk about grooming in the UK but how much do we know about the Malmo, Sweden that has become the rape capital of Europe. Gang rapes have become prevalent there.

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You're not looking at things objectively jkvlondon. Also, you don't seem to be in possession of the full facts.

Firstly, Muslims....like us Sikhs...do not take kindly to their prophet being depicted in any form. Christians and Jews have no such issue - their faith encorages depiction of their prophets - but those Christians should be mature, intellient and understanding enough to appreciate how such an issue is a gigantic issue with both Muslims AND Sikhs.

Secondly, what the mainsteam media is to some extent witholding from us is what those 'cartoons' actually entailed. They say the word 'cartoon' knowing it conjures up innocent tom and jerry type images in our minds. The fact is, when Muslims started to complain about the drawings the magazine deliberately went one step further....some might say a step way too far....and the latest installment of the magazine depicted Mohammed with his genitalia hanging out erect having sexual liasions with all sorts of women.

Whilst absolutely none of us would condone the horrific murder that took place one has to look at things objectively and conclude that this 'free speech' mantra being repeated by the public must have its limits. Free speech should not mean the freedom to wilfully and deliberately hurt and destroy the very essence of others' beings simply because their belief is alien to yours.

WELL SAID !

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