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my own philosophy is it takes all sorts to make the planet , we are stumbling in the half-light to reach Guru ji's Dwar we have crawled, slithered, run, scrabbled through all those millions of years of joona just to get to this beautiful hope-filled moment , A rdas is we all know His light and love .For me the sadness is that these people are being conned in some respect that the kriyas are worth anything , truth is it is the bani that does the job .

Again you are judging them, What makes you think they are not japping bani or contemplating on gurbani? How you heard of them singing various powerful gurbani shabads with devotion? Chatar chakar varti and many more. While our punjabi medieval sock jockie pendu tribals (i have to use terms to set the record straight) totally dissect sat sri akaal and turn them into ritual, they go deep and contemplate and connect to sat sri akaal when they say sat sri akaal- Truth is eternal..!!

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Sufi simran techniques pretty similiar to AKJ/3HO

I just came across with this videos below..wow i m totally humbled:

why are you surprised ? Sikhi is the truth and other faiths also have elements of that truth too, think of all the names of akal purakh used by the main faiths they have two or four syllables and so can be uttered on the breath swas swas too.

yahweh - chrisian

elohim -judaism

allah- muslim

gobind

hari

ram

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I am not surprised my point of that post to show kriyas/vidhiyas/naam/grace truth are universal, its owned by someone bhaap so we should stop with our condescending attitude towards others.

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kharkusingh1996, on 15 Jan 2015 - 16:53, said:snapback.png

Yogi Bhajan is a no no so are his followers in the West. They will be dealt with in the future.

Pot Belly SGPC leaders tried this before, ban gorreh sikhs to do kirtan at darbar sahib- Baba nihal singh ji defended their rights to laying down sword in the middle..you wanna take this route again?

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Again you are judging them, What makes you think they are not japping bani or contemplating on gurbani? How you heard of them singing various powerful gurbani shabads with devotion? Chatar chakar varti and many more. While our punjabi medieval sock jockie pendu tribals (i have to use terms to set the record straight) totally dissect sat sri akaal and turn them into ritual, they go deep and contemplate and connect to sat sri akaal when they say sat sri akaal- Truth is eternal..!!

i did not say their dhian wasn't in the bani /naam just their interpretation of the feedback may be that it is because of the body positions more than the bani I have even been told that I was not doing bani right by someone of their ilk . I just put the comment in my back pocket as what they had been doing in the physical I had naturally did in my dhian on that bani from a kid . We are lesser and we try to limit Guru ji to try to process His greatness in our feeble minds , when I feel myself going that way i try hard to stop dead in my tracks . Guru ji was the truth/reality, just is now, and always will be Guru mera sada sada

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I haven't read full book by Bhai Trilochan Singh fully but his bit about 3ho kundaliini yoga -kriya incorporated with shabad vidhi an manmat is laughable unbelievably wildy ironic as he belongs to sect-AKj which has exact same kriya dressed it up as very sikhi eccentric names . It's all same kriyas mantras being different, most of 3ho mantras are from gurbani, dasam granth etc. I have studied main 3ho ,akj, sufi naam kriyas/vidhiyas. It's laughable to think they are different.

The thread is about 3HO beadbi and it is purposely being diverted by this poster. I believe this poster knows exactly how different the practice of dancing and mudras and yogic postures are to repeating Vaheguru's name on every breath. But chooses to dilute the Guru approved method of repeating Vaheguru's name(Bani) on every breath to justify the NOT approved methods by the Guru of mudras, dancing, breath control, and yogic postures.

What Bhai Randhir Singh ji is speaking about here is not breathing in and out through different holes of the nose and mouth to control the mind as 3HO instruct and implement. 3HO believe by breath control they can attain mukhti and mind control. Bhai Sahib is saying with a normal breath, with your tongue, mind, and inner conciousness a person can repeat Vaheguru's name. 3HO do not do Saas Sass giraas simran. They stick one finger in one nostril and then release the breath in the other nostril. Then do the other nostril while holding some kind of mudra in the free hand. Saas Sass giraas simran is done where a person can be sitting, standing, walking, running, etc through the normal breath a person is focused on Vaheguru's name. 3HO have competitions who can hold the breath the longest and who can drain the most oxygen out of the body. What do they call it...rapid fire or something more ridiculous. Only a malicious person would equate Bhai Sahib's words to what 3HO are doing and were taught by the rapist Yogi Bhajan. Only a malicious person would deliberately say pranasakhti means breath control. The Sakhti (power) behind the prana (breath) is not the breath. :stupidme:

In public these malicious people never speak up when 3HO is discussed.

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Again you are judging them, What makes you think they are not japping bani or contemplating on gurbani? How you heard of them singing various powerful gurbani shabads with devotion? Chatar chakar varti and many more. While our punjabi medieval sock jockie pendu tribals (i have to use terms to set the record straight) totally dissect sat sri akaal and turn them into ritual, they go deep and contemplate and connect to sat sri akaal when they say sat sri akaal- Truth is eternal..!!

veer ji why so rude about desi singhs ? puzzled I agree ritualism is a trap and vicharna is the way to avoid it . Anyway Guru ji told us to call Fateh to any SIkh that crosses our path whether they give the jawab or not. yes people need to know more ...

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Some of these sikhs go into such Deep samadhi as instructed by Guru Granth sahib Ji.

Theres a woman in London who isn't brown skinned indian who does Kundalini yoga(a miracle in helping keep the body temple healthy and youthful along with other complimentary excercises) and is one of the only people my relative has seen meditiating so deeply and truly in a Gurdwarra.

Yeh rituals are B/S thats the Truth, but samadhi/learning gyan to be brought forward and practiced in daily life-is not.

Excercise/looking after the body is paramount in Respecting the Body temple of God in this janam- along with spirituality.

Yeh some of these 3ho sikhs are missguided and you could do ardas that they see the light, but so are a shedloads of Sikhs and singhs and dumb disrespectful gyanis in Gurdwarras who walk around slandering girls and others in front of the guru-Slander being a Huge crime in Dargah- as per Sukhmani sahib.

There are idiotic corrupt 'sikhs' everywhere, but then it's kalyug and Guru Nank gave us the gyan that the world is full of fools so its no suprise.

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WJKK WJKF

I was really chuffed when I realised that many white Americans embraced sikhi. However over the years, after learning the things they do has left a real bad and pittyful feeling as these people have largely become incorporated in a cult movement and not the nirmal panth of sikhi. In many ways, a reflection of what many panjabis do, kill their daughters, caste supremacy, alcohol, kesha di beadbi, pakandi sants to add but a few, all under the name of sikhi.

The beadbi what goes on in our own mother land needs to be sorted out before we can ever point the finger and say "your wrong" as it becomes contradictory.

If and when the shri Akal Takhat sorts out its front yard, only then can we move on to sort out the rest. In relation to this post, if 3ho do not wish to follow the rehat maryada set by the Akal Takhat, it has to result in excommunication.

Up until then, we should approach the 3ho members with pyar and bring em back to sikhi. As great Sikhs like Bhai Jagtar Singh Ji has done here. The beadbi on our side is just the same, as beadbi is beadbi.

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I was really chuffed when I realised that many white Americans embraced sikhi. However over the years, after learning the things they do has left a real bad and pittyful feeling as these people have largely become incorporated in a cult movement and not the nirmal panth of sikhi. In many ways, a reflection of what many panjabis do, kill their daughters, caste supremacy, alcohol, kesha di beadbi, pakandi sants to add but a few, all under the name of sikhi.

The beadbi what goes on in our own mother land needs to be sorted out before we can ever point the finger and say "your wrong" as it becomes contradictory.

If and when the shri Akal Takhat sorts out its front yard, only then can we move on to sort out the rest. In relation to this post, if 3ho do not wish to follow the rehat maryada set by the Akal Takhat, it has to result in excommunication.

Up until then, we should approach the 3ho members with pyar and bring em back to sikhi. As great Sikhs like Bhai Jagtar Singh Ji has done here. The beadbi on our side is just the same, as beadbi is beadbi.

Agreed here is basic of sikhi bhai jagraj singh statement on 3ho and basic of sikhi

http://www.sikhsangat.com/index.php?/topic/74645-basicsofsikhi-and-3ho-and-yogi-bhajan-question/?p=609599

http://www.sikhsangat.com/index.php?/topic/74645-basicsofsikhi-and-3ho-and-yogi-bhajan-question/?p=609735

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In many ways, a reflection of what many panjabis do, kill their daughters, caste supremacy, alcohol, kesha di beadbi, pakandi sants to add but a few, all under the name of sikhi.

Up until then, we should approach the 3ho members with pyar and bring em back to sikhi. As great Sikhs like Bhai Jagtar Singh Ji has done here. The beadbi on our side is just the same, as beadbi is beadbi.

What sides? Do you see a line drawn by Sikhi between the brown and white Sikhs? This illusion has been created by the malicious secular-quasi religious people in Sikhi to divide and conquer. I know you or anyone else won't like what I say next, but it has to be said. Punjabis are very d*mb. I mean they are d*mb with a capital D. You are a Sikh, so why are you defining yourself as a certain race? You don't want to be defined as a daughter killer, caste supremacist, alcoholic, pakandi sant follower. yet you turn around and say

The beadbi on our side is just the same, as beadbi is beadbi.

By saying our (brown) side is committing beadbi you are saying I am the daughter killer, caste supremacist, alcoholic, pakandi sant follower. Think back to when Hindus and Muslims were joining the Khalsa Panth. Did the Guru give them one side each. One is light brown (Muslims) and other is dark brown (Hindus). :stupidme: :stupidme: :stupidme: :stupidme: :stupidme: :stupidme:

Wake up d*mb punjabis, you are being played as fools by the secular-quasi religious people on this forum.

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Beadbi by Sikhs from a Punjab background is always discussed on this forum, but never have these secular-quasi religious people come around to say stop barking at the brown side. Look at the beadbi the 3HO are doing of Sikhi. The reverse only happens when forum members want to discuss the beadbi being done by 3HO and it's followers. They purposely drag punjabis mistakes into the discussion to distract the d*mb forum members away from the topic of 3HO committing beadbi.

And guess what!!!! It works on the d*mb punjabis all the time. Wake up punjabis,

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What sides? Do you see a line drawn by Sikhi between the brown and white Sikhs? This illusion has been created by the malicious secular-quasi religious people in Sikhi to divide and conquer. I know you or anyone else won't like what I say next, but it has to be said. Punjabis are very d*mb. I mean they are d*mb with a capital D. You are a Sikh, so why are you defining yourself as a certain race? You don't want to be defined as a daughter killer, caste supremacist, alcoholic, pakandi sant follower. yet you turn around and say

The beadbi on our side is just the same, as beadbi is beadbi.

By saying our (brown) side is committing beadbi you are saying I am the daughter killer, caste supremacist, alcoholic, pakandi sant follower. Think back to when Hindus and Muslims were joining the Khalsa Panth. Did the Guru give them one side each. One is light brown (Muslims) and other is dark brown (Hindus). :stupidme: :stupidme: :stupidme: :stupidme: :stupidme: :stupidme:

Wake up d*mb punjabis, you are being played as fools by the secular-quasi religious people on this forum.

WJKK WJKF

Veer JI, sorry I should elaborate, I mean by "us" being of panjabi ethnicity and the beadbi I listed were current ills what we do in our western countries and also in panjab.

Sikhi has no colour, no geographical boundaries and no limit on universal truth. It is only us, the human which fails to understand its meaning, the flaw being the mann and not the Matt.

Also veer Ji, I wish not to disguise any beadbi from any sikh of any ethnicity or country. However look at the state of panjab.

Also, not all panjabi's are dumb, the smartest now sitting in prisons in panjab as they voiced the truth of injustice. Up until the puppeteers are gone with their puppets and our shere panjab are freed and gurmat is followed, we will then be able to deal with the issues in the worldwide panth. But it has to start from the top, Shri Akal takhat, as set by our guru sahib.

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Veer JI, sorry I should elaborate, I mean by "us" being of panjabi ethnicity and the beadbi I listed were current ills what we do in our western countries and also in panjab.

When I wrote my post I knew you were talking about punjabis. Thank you for clarifying it, but the post I wrote still holds true, sorry to say. Who is "we"? We are Sikhs and it stops here. There are no sides to this discussion. Here i will be very blunt this time.

Say you (a Punjabi) were walking down the street and a punjabi next to you see's a black person and deliberately says......"yoo f*kin n*gger", loud enough for the black guy to hear. Both of you are punjabi. Would you stand shoulder to shoulder with this other punjabi, who was being a racist and say "our side....let's get this n*gger"? No! because you are not a racist and you don't want your face to be curb stomped and go on a quick ride to the hospital in an ambulance. In the same way, when you say "our side" commits beadbi of so and so you are attributing those act to yourself and taking responsibility for them? Stop saying our side or what we do or any other phrase which will associate you with something you are not. It makes punjabis look very uneducated to fall for these traps by secular-quasi religious people.

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If people have issues with 3ho, they should use five jathedars of takth sahib to form an dialogue with them or ask them to clarify their stance because it does not seem like jathedars of takth sahiban have issue with 3ho sikh community, not at this point anyway-

However, same jathedar of sri akaal takth sahib did warn against sikh extremism in general-

I agree with him totally. I think Sikh right wing fascist people are doing more beadhi by hijacking gurmat ideals/ radicializing sikh youths than some left wing liberal hippy singing away.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTDO0W4DWyI

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=801629453242329

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=381731731984643

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