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LOL I mean why does this guy just show videos where he is successful. I want to see the muslim under pressure and being questioned, not asking the questions.

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I may be wrong but it looks like convert was cultural Buddhist than a practising one.

In wider spiritual community Islam has virtually no presence or influence because of sharia mainstream sunni fanatic islam except from occasional reference from Rumi/Sufi saints writings.

I highly doubt good practicing spiritual Buddhist will convert to sharia sunni fanatic islam that's like downward spiral into death cult.

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LOL I mean why does this guy just show videos where he is successful. I want to see the muslim under pressure and being questioned, not asking the questions.

These street Dawah people sell Islam like an insurance policy. They want conversion on the spot. None of these converts has any knowledge about Islam when "converting". The worst part is, it's the salafists that are doing this street Dawah. Some of them even have terrorist links like this guy in the green shirt:

This guy used to do street Dawah in Australia and sent many of his converts to fight and die in Syria. He himself is also wanted and hiding somewhere in Turkey or Syria.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdwkjM0KcII

TheReligionofPeace.com
Guide to Understanding Islam

What does the
Religion of Peace
Teach About...

The Sex Life of the Prophet


Question:

Was Islam's "perfect man" sexually restrained?


Summary Answer:

The Quran (which was narrated by Muhammad) refers to Muhammad's life as "as beautiful pattern of conduct for anyone whose hope is in Allah" (33:21) and "an exalted standard of character" (68:4). Yet, thanks to Allah's extraordinary interest in his personal sex life (as immortalized in the Quran) the prophet of Islam had sex with just about anyone he pleased.

Although the Qur'an didn't appear to have enough space for topics like universal love and brotherhood (which Muslims sometimes insist are there, but aren't), the list of sexual partners that Muhammad was entitled to is detailed more than once, sometimes in categories and sometimes in reference to specific persons (ie. Zaynab and Mary).

Muhammad was married to thirteen women, including eleven at one time. He relegated them to either consecutive days or (according to some accounts) all in one night. He had sex with a 9-year-old girl and married his adopted son's wife (after arranging a quick divorce). On top of that, Muhammad had a multitude of slave girls and concubines with whom he had sex - sometimes on the very days in which they had watched their husbands and fathers die at the hands of his army.

So, by any realistic measure, the creator of the world's most sexually restrictive religion was also one of the most sexually indulgent characters in history.


The Qur'an:

Allah managed to hand down quite a few "revelations" that sanctioned Muhammad's personal pursuit of sex to the doubters around him. Interestingly they have become part of the the eternal, infallible word of the Qur'an, to be memorized by generations of Muslims for whom they have no possible relevance.

Qur'an (33:37) - "But when Zaid had accomplished his want of her, We gave her to you as a wife, so that there should be no difficulty for the believers in respect of the wives of their adopted sons, when they have accomplished their want of them; and Allah's command shall be performed." No doubt millions of young Muslims, trying to outdo one another at memorizing the Qur'an, have wondered about what this verse means and why it is there. In fact, this is a "revelation" of convenience that Allah just happened to hand down at a time when Muhammad lusted after his daughter-in-law, Zaynab, - a state of affairs that disturbed local customs. The verse "commands" Muhammad to marry the woman (following her husband's gracious divorce). As for why this should be part of the eternal word of God...?

Qur'an (33:50) - "O Prophet! surely We have made lawful to you your wives whom you have given their dowries, and those slaves whom your right hand possesses out of those whom Allah has given to you as prisoners of war, and the daughters of your paternal uncles and the daughters of your paternal aunts, and the daughters of your maternal uncles and the daughters of your maternal aunts who fled with you; and a believing woman if she gave herself to the Prophet, if the Prophet desired to marry her-- specially for you, not for the (rest of) believers; We know what We have ordained for them concerning their wives and those whom their right hands possess in order that no blame may attach to you; " This is another special command that Muhammad handed down to himself that allows virtually unlimited sex, divinely sanctioned by Allah. One assumes that this "revelation" was meant to assuage some sort of disgruntlement in the community over Muhammad's hedonism.

Qur'an (33:51) - "You may put off whom you please of them, and you may take to you whom you please, and whom you desire of those whom you had separated provisionally; no blame attaches to you; this is most proper, so that their eyes may be cool and they may not grieve, and that they should be pleased" This is in reference to a situation in which Muhammad's wives were grumbling about his preference for sleeping with a slave girl (Mary the Copt) instead of them. Accordingly, Muhammad may sleep with whichever wife (or slave) he wishes without having to hear the others complain... as revealed in Allah's literal and perfect words to more than a billion Muslims.

Qur'an (66:1-5) - "O Prophet! Why do you ban (for yourself) that which Allah has made lawful to you, seeking to please your wives?... Allah has already ordained for you, the dissolution of your oaths " Another remarkably personal passage of sexual convenience in a book billed as Allah's perfect and eternal message to mankind. Muhammad was caught sleeping with a slave woman on the night that he was supposed to be with one of his wives. Initially promising to be faithful, "Allah" tells his prophet to break that promise and enjoy sex with his slaves. If his wives objected then "it may be if he divorced you (all) that his Lord will give him instead of you, wives better than you."

Qur'an (4:24) - "And all married women (are forbidden unto you) save those slaves whom your right hands possess." Allah even permitted Muhammad and his men to have sex with married slaves, such as those captured in battle.

From the Hadith:

Muslim (8:3309) - Muhammad consummated his marriage to Aisha when she was only nine. (See also Bukhari 58:234 and many other places). No where in the reliable Hadith or Sira is there any other age given.

Bukhari (62:18) - Aisha's father, Abu Bakr, wasn't on board at first, but Muhammad explained how the rules of their religion made it possible. This is similar to the way that present-day cult leaders manipulate their followers into similar concessions.

Muslim (8:3311) - The girl took her dolls with her to Muhammad's house (something to play with when the "prophet" was not having sex with her).

Bukhari (6:298) - Muhammad would take a bath with the little girl and fondle her.

Muslim (8:3460) - "Why didn't you marry a young girl so that you could sport with her and she sport with you, or you could amuse with her and she could amuse with you?" Muhammad posed this question to one of his followers who had married an "older woman" instead of opting to fondle a child.

Bukhari (4:232) - Muhammad's wives would wash semen stains out of his clothes, which were still wet from the spot-cleaning even when he went to the mosque for prayers. Between copulation and prayer, it's a wonder he found the time to slay pagans.

Bukhari (6:300) - Muhammad's wives had to be available for the prophet's fondling even when they were having their menstrual period.

Bukhari (93:639) - The Prophet of Islam would recite the 'Holy Qur'an' with his head in Aisha's lap, when she was menstruating.

Bukhari (62:6) - "The Prophet used to go round (have sexual relations with) all his wives in one night, and he had nine wives." Muhammad also said that it was impossible to treat all wives equally - and it isn't hard to guess why.

Bukhari (5:268) - "The Prophet used to visit all his wives in a round, during the day and night and they were eleven in number." I asked Anas, 'Had the Prophet the strength for it?' Anas replied, 'We used to say that the Prophet was given the strength of thirty men.' "

Bukhari (60:311) - "I feel that your Lord hastens in fulfilling your wishes and desires." These words were spoken by Aisha within the context of her husband having been given 'Allah's permission' to fulfill his sexual desires with a large number of women in whatever order he chooses. (It has been suggested that Aisha may have been speaking somewhat wryly).

Muslim (8:3424) - One of several narrations in which a leering Muhammad orders a clearly startled woman to suckle a grown man with her breast so that he will become "unlawful" to her - meaning that they can live under the same roof together.

Tabari IX:137 - "Allah granted Rayhana of the Qurayza to Muhammad as booty." Muhammad considered the women that he captured and enslaved to be God's gift to him.

Tabari VIII:117 - "Dihyah had asked the Messenger for Safiyah when the Prophet chose her for himself... the Apostle traded for Safiyah by giving Dihyah her two cousins. The women of Khaybar were distributed as sexual slaves among the Muslims." He sometimes pulled rank to reserve the most beautiful captured women for himself.

Tabari IX:139 - "You are a self-respecting girl, but the prophet is a womanizer." Words spoken by the disappointed parents of a girl who had 'offered' herself to Muhammad (he accepted).

Additional Notes:

Muhammad's sexual antics are an embarrassment to those Muslims who are aware of them. This is particularly so for their prophet's consummation of his marriage to Aisha when she was only nine years of age. The thought of a 53-year-old man sleeping and bathing with a young girl is intensely unpleasant and it reflects the disgusting character of a sexual glutton rather than a holy man. Critics even allege that Muhammad was a pedophile.

Some Muslims respond by denying the hadith itself, which is a mistake. The accounts of Muhammad sleeping with a 9-year-old are no less reliable than those on which the five pillars of Islam are based. They have been an accepted part of tradition and did not become controversial until social mores began to change with the modern age.

The charge of pedophilia may or may not be true, depending on how it is defined. Technically, Muhammad did have a sexual relationship with a child, but Aisha was also the youngest of his twelve wives. Zaynab was in her 30's when she attracted the unquenchable lust of the prophet. We don't know the age of Muhammad's sex slaves. They may or may not have been as young as Aisha, but there is no point in speculating.

Prior to the medical advances of the last century, marriage occurred at a much younger age across all societies. When life expectancy was in the mid 20's (or lower), it made no sense to wait until 19 to start having children; otherwise, one ran the risk of not being around to raise them. In short, childhood as we know it was abbreviated by the reality of the times.

Another strong piece of evidence against Muhammad being a pedophile is that, according to the same Hadith, he waited from the time Aisha was six (when the marriage ceremony took place) until she turned nine to consummate the relationship. Although the text doesn't say why, in all probability it was because he was waiting for her to begin menstrual cycles - thus entering into "womanhood." It is unlikely that a pedophile would be concerned about this.

On the other hand, Muhammad passed down revelations from Allah that clearly condoned sleeping with underage girls, even by the standard of puberty. Qur'an (65:4) relates rules for divorce, one of them being that a waiting period of three months is established to determine that the woman is not pregnant. But the same rule applies to "those too who have not had their courses," meaning girls who have not begun to menstruate. (In our opinion, this would have been a great time for Allah to have said something else instead like, "a real man is one who marries an actual, grown woman"... but that's just us).

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Why do people just convert so easily? Are they a bit idiotic, do they not read before converting?

Because they usually know nothing of the religion which they are leaving in order that they might become Muslim.

I found this on an Islamic forum, the testimony of a girl who left Sikhi for Islam. See for yourself how compelling the reasons this mental invalid gave for her conversion are: http://www.ummah.com/forum/showthread.php?152942-Why-I-Left-Sikhism-to-Revert-to-Islam

She says that Guru Nanak was a Muslim, that the Sikh Gurus were gods and that there exists at Harmandir Sahib an epidemic of frisky babas pinching ladies on the buttocks. From what she says, it is clear her parents told her nothing about Sikhi, or even worse, told her things which were manifestly and flagrantly untrue.

To be fair, maybe these people just say they've converted to Islam then and there so those Dawah blokes shut the hell up and shove off.

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Because they usually know nothing of the religion which they are leaving in order that they might become Muslim.

I found this on an Islamic forum, the testimony of a girl who left Sikhi for Islam. See for yourself how compelling the reasons this mental invalid gave for her conversion are: http://www.ummah.com/forum/showthread.php?152942-Why-I-Left-Sikhism-to-Revert-to-Islam

She says that Guru Nanak was a Muslim, that the Sikh Gurus were gods and that there exists at Harmandir Sahib an epidemic of frisky babas pinching ladies on the buttocks. From what she says, it is clear her parents told her nothing about Sikhi, or even worse, told her things which were manifestly and flagrantly untrue.

To be fair, maybe these people just say they've converted to Islam then and there so those Dawah blokes shut the hell up and shove off.

dat story is rubbish, canadian sikhs dont hate muslims, if that was a uk story i would have believed it, fake.

dat story is rubbish, canadian sikhs dont hate muslims, if that was a uk story i would have believed it, fake.

parents amrit shak but i ate meat and cut hair, likely story...

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Because they usually know nothing of the religion which they are leaving in order that they might become Muslim.

I found this on an Islamic forum, the testimony of a girl who left Sikhi for Islam. See for yourself how compelling the reasons this mental invalid gave for her conversion are: http://www.ummah.com/forum/showthread.php?152942-Why-I-Left-Sikhism-to-Revert-to-Islam

She says that Guru Nanak was a Muslim, that the Sikh Gurus were gods and that there exists at Harmandir Sahib an epidemic of frisky babas pinching ladies on the buttocks. From what she says, it is clear her parents told her nothing about Sikhi, or even worse, told her things which were manifestly and flagrantly untrue.

To be fair, maybe these people just say they've converted to Islam then and there so those Dawah blokes shut the hell up and shove off.

Thats the oldest testimony goin on the net, i remember reading that back 15yrs or so back, funny she says her family were very religious, yet shes written so much bakwaas its jus funny.

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The thing to realise is that there will be always be a certain percentage of people who are stupid. This has been true throughout history and is the same in our time. I remember something interesting someone told me that some people have transmigrated from the jooni of beasts like cattle and sheep into human life too quickly and thus are totally unequipped for human life and will soon head back into the jooni of beasts after this life. This could be an apt description for those who convert to Islam or born Muslims who remain in their religion. The most ironic aspect of this dawah guy and others like him is that they are as stupid as the people they seek to convert.

Islam contains and attracts the stupidest people around. Over a period of time stupidity has become inbred. It becomes a trait among these people. Those born into Islam who are intelligent are dumbed down by their religion. We make the mistake of assuming that everyone is inherently sensible and have some intelligence and therefore should have enough intelligence to realise that Islam is a political ideology devoid of any spirituality masquerading as a religion. We make this assumption because we ourselves can see Islam for what it is but if you are stupid and fed on PC garbage about how Islam is a religion of peace then you don't see the disconnect between what you are being told and what is the reality around you. What person other than one who is stupid would convert to a religion whose founder was a slave trader and a rapist? Why would anyone other than a stupid person stay in a religion knowing what the true practitioners of that religion are doing in Iraq and Syria.

The first convert to Islam I ever came across was a white guy many years ago who said he converted because 'Neil Armstrong had heard the Muslim call to prayer on the moon and had become a Muslim because of that'! This was the reason for this white guy converting! Everyone should be aware that that particular story as well as all other such celebrity conversion to Islam stories are a fake. But who but a stupid person would convert to Islam without verifying that the story he is being told is true or not. This is the gist of the issue, that the stupid people will be attracted to the ideology which elevates their stupidity. The more stupid you are the more Islam makes sense to you.

Read any Muslim conversion testimony and you will realise that most of the positive aspects of Islam which attracted these people to Islam simply do not exist. They have been fed lies and for most they will never realise that they have been lied to because as converts they are told that any questioning of Islam may lead them to unbelief and then into hell fire! Those who will realise that they have been lied to will come to that realisation when it is too late. As women these converts will be married off and have kids and then come to realise that if they leave Islam they will lose their kids to the father as per Islamic law. By the time they realise they have been lied to them will have become well integrated into the community of the stupid from which no escape is possible without facing a death sentence.

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The thing to realise is that there will be always be a certain percentage of people who are stupid. This has been true throughout history and is the same in our time. I remember something interesting someone told me that some people have transmigrated from the jooni of beasts like cattle and sheep into human life too quickly and thus are totally unequipped for human life and will soon head back into the jooni of beasts after this life. This could be an apt description for those who convert to Islam or born Muslims who remain in their religion. The most ironic aspect of this dawah guy and others like him is that they are as stupid as the people they seek to convert.

Islam contains and attracts the stupidest people around. Over a period of time stupidity has become inbred. It becomes a trait among these people. Those born into Islam who are intelligent are dumbed down by their religion. We make the mistake of assuming that everyone is inherently sensible and have some intelligence and therefore should have enough intelligence to realise that Islam is a political ideology devoid of any spirituality masquerading as a religion. We make this assumption because we ourselves can see Islam for what it is but if you are stupid and fed on PC garbage about how Islam is a religion of peace then you don't see the disconnect between what you are being told and what is the reality around you. What person other than one who is stupid would convert to a religion whose founder was a slave trader and a rapist? Why would anyone other than a stupid person stay in a religion knowing what the true practitioners of that religion are doing in Iraq and Syria.

The first convert to Islam I ever came across was a white guy many years ago who said he converted because 'Neil Armstrong had heard the Muslim call to prayer on the moon and had become a Muslim because of that'! This was the reason for this white guy converting! Everyone should be aware that that particular story as well as all other such celebrity conversion to Islam stories are a fake. But who but a stupid person would convert to Islam without verifying that the story he is being told is true or not. This is the gist of the issue, that the stupid people will be attracted to the ideology which elevates their stupidity. The more stupid you are the more Islam makes sense to you.

Read any Muslim conversion testimony and you will realise that most of the positive aspects of Islam which attracted these people to Islam simply do not exist. They have been fed lies and for most they will never realise that they have been lied to because as converts they are told that any questioning of Islam may lead them to unbelief and then into hell fire! Those who will realise that they have been lied to will come to that realisation when it is too late. As women these converts will be married off and have kids and then come to realise that if they leave Islam they will lose their kids to the father as per Islamic law. By the time they realise they have been lied to them will have become well integrated into the community of the stupid from which no escape is possible without facing a death sentence.

i remember a couple of years back all kaleh were growing beards because of rick ross, some even converted lol now they all back to normal

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Islam contains and attracts the stupidest people around. Over a period of time stupidity has become inbred. It becomes a trait among these people. Those born into Islam who are intelligent are dumbed down by their religion. We make the mistake of assuming that everyone is inherently sensible and have some intelligence and therefore should have enough intelligence to realise that Islam is a political ideology devoid of any spirituality masquerading as a religion. We make this assumption because we ourselves can see Islam for what it is but if you are stupid and fed on PC garbage about how Islam is a religion of peace then you don't see the disconnect between what you are being told and what is the reality around you. What person other than one who is stupid would convert to a religion whose founder was a slave trader and a rapist? Why would anyone other than a stupid person stay in a religion knowing what the true practitioners of that religion are doing in Iraq and Syria.

Lol, your first point is excellent. We can hardly expect these people to be particularly brainy after fifty generations of first cousin marriages.

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