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The name of nanak shouldn't be attributed to any calendar as if its endorsed by maharaj..

Couldn't care less what calendar is used, the fact this is the issue at forefront of the leaderships concerns is a sad indictment of how much the panth has digressed.

Our so called leaderships needs spend time challenging major issues I.e. corruption, povert, islamic state..

The jathedars need shittar and throwing out of their kursia!

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As always our forum supports the original bikrami calendar. There was absolutely no need to change the calendar and its format. All invited by akal takht to work the calendar issue out, purewal is also on the list and so is Gurcharanjit Singh Lamba along with other experts on this subject.

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Do not know why ppl are adamant about this or that type of calender calling it nanakshahi - Does any of them starts with the Birth date of Sri Guru Nanak dev ji ? Clear view is that Bikrami calender is Lunar calender and what the guy Purewal proposed and accepted by SGPC first (and till now the back tracking is going masking mockery of the calender , the decision & the Community) and then going on making ammends mindlessly , is Solar calender - Difference being that The Lunar calender considers one rotation of Moon around earth as one month and the Solar Calender considers one rotation of Earth around sun as one year ( yet another is Stellar year which considers period between seeing same stellar (stars) position on horizon from same point of earth as one year - difference with solar year is only a few hours only - but it is more perfect but very less used . Many countries and communities use luni Solar calender too ( where some dyas are celebrated on lunar basis but the calender is Solar )

in our case malady is that the guys at the helm for deciding will never listen to or consult knowledgeable Astronomy Experts and instead will play one upmanship against one another only .If proper experts were consulted before the decision was made ( or even after) the matter would have been solver easily .

I REPEAT MY QUESTION - IF THE FIRST DAY OF THE CALENDER DOES NOT COINCIDE WITH THE BIRTH OF SRI GURU NANAK DEV JI OR ANY OTHER IMPORTANT INCIDENT RELATED TO THE LIFE OF THE GREAT GURU, HOW CAN WE CALL IT NANAKSHAHI CALENDER ;BE IT SOLAR ,LUNAR OR LUNI SOLAR ?

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Widespread apostacy, massive human rights violations, drug taking and the spread of AIDS seem to have passed the almost entire Sikh Leadership by. The Takht Jathedhars, SGPC leaders, Taksal , Nihung leaders , many Babas are all together spending their time on calander issues only.

When Purewal made his faulty calendar in 2003, were there not widespread of apostasy, massive human rights violations, drug taking and the spread of AIDS? This man with his arrogance has managed to split the Khalsa Panth in two. What was his and your camps need to take Sikhs away from the Bikrami Calendar that even the Gurus used and respected? The Khalsa Panth was united on the Bikrami Calendar since Sri Guru Nanak Dev ji. Mother crying, families being ripped apart are only games for your camp and a good way to manipulate the average Sikh into saying those who followed their Gurus lead are wrong. Stop hiding behind your wifes salwar and be a man to face the Khalsa Panth.

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Do we think either Bikrami or Nanakshahi use Gurmat Terminology? Like Jyoti Jyot Samauna: They(Calendarists) call physical death as Jyoti Jyot Samauna which is blunder as per Gurbani. Jyoti Jyot Samauna is a task which a soul need to achieve. ਆਪਨੜਾ ਪ੍ਰਭੁ ਨਦਰਿ ਕਰਿ ਦੇਖੈ ਨਾਨਕ ਜੋਤਿ ਜੋਤੀ ਰਲੀਐ ॥੩॥ (Aapnarha Prabhu Nadar Kar Dekhe Nanak Joti Joti Raliye). We have many Shabads in Gurbani which explains Jyoti jyot Samauna is not Physical Death but it is union with owns Lord.

When Bhai lehna learnt Gurmat from Gur Nanak and when he ਪ੍ਰਭੁ ਨਦਰਿ ਕਰਿ ਦੇਖੈ, that day is Jyoti Jyot Samauna. Now Can Calendarists find the dates of Jyoti Jyot Samauna of every Gur/Bhagats?

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the Questions to ponder over are

1 - Why we should not have our own calender ( Call it by any name - when i was a Kid I used to hear about Khalsa Samvat - starfting from Baisakh Sangrand - implying that it was solar calender & also Nanakshahi calender starting from Kartik Poornima )

2 - before adopting a calender why not decide whether it would be solar or Lunar

there after we can unaimously decide about the name

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