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You are speaking an ideal case which is not applicable to everyone. In case sangat is not available then I see your point. But if sangat is available then as instructed by Guru Sahib, one should go to sangat. Many Gursikhs have struggled without sangat and many naam abhiyasi Sikhs have found sangat to be the most beneficial for their progress and to keep them from making mistakes. Guru Sahib has spoken highly of sangat which they themselves established. So it cannot be ignored or downplayed. While Guru Sahib is eternal and with us, it is the sangat that strengthens our beliefs and faith in Guru Sahib. Sangat encourages us to practice Sikhi more and more. I never said sangat is the only solution. It is part of Sikhi and cannot be ignored. Taking your stance, how do you explain numerous people who have fallen from Sikhi? How do you explain some Sikhs who reached high avastha and then went astray? Sikhi is not an individualistic path. The whole concept of Panth goes against the very idea of doing everything all alone. A Sikh keeps Amrit Vela, does nitnem and also goes to sangat where he learns about higher avasthas and resolves his spiritual obstacles. Guru Sahib also works his kirpa through sangat.

My whole point was that if someone goes away from Sikhi, sangat should try to bring them back. Maya, haumain, mind, and five vices are very powerful. Ask any naam abhiyasi Gursikh. You may have reached the ideal avastha you speak of but not everyone has and hence, they need sangat and blessings of Guru Sahib to get there.

I completely agree with you. People may need sangat at the beginning to help them on the path but in my opinion it is an individualistic path as no one can make them grow their love for Guru Sahib and Vaheguru but themselves. Everyone does sangat but not everyone finds Vaheguru through sangat because it is their own effort and care that can bring them towards Vaheguru.

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Yes I agree with you with one caveat that it is the Grace of Vaheguru not self-effort that results in spiritual progress and it is the Grace that brings out the good works and efforts in us. We pray for "uddham" and God's Grace works from beginning to end resulting in our journey, progress, works and salvation. Guru Rakha

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