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Rid gurdwaras of politics, say Sikh intellectuals

Posted at: Jun 8 2015 1:09AM

Perneet Singh

Tribune News Service

Amritsar, June 7

Perturbed over another clash at the Golden Temple Complex on the Operation Bluestar anniversary, Sikh intellectuals say this disturbing trend reflects the community in poor light.

They believe there is an urgent need to rid gurdwaras of politics while those associated with the SGPC are seeking a thorough probe into the incident to expose the forces behind it.

Talking to The Tribune, former National Commission for Minorities chairman Tarlochan Singh termed it a consequence of leadership failure.

The post of Jathedar has been reduced to a mere decorative one as they neither have the authority nor any following. He also raised a question mark over organising such events at the Golden Temple complex.

These are purely religious places for solace of mind and they should remain so. The holy shrine should not be turned into a political battleground. We should keep it free from politics, he said.

According to him, incidents like yesterdays violent clash are damaging Sikh tenets and faith. He also wondered what people gain by brandishing swords at the Golden Temple complex.

He said the religious places should not politicised and the jathedars should find a permanent solution to it.

Noted Sikh scholar Ashok Singh Bagrian also felt that the first thing that needs to be done today is to divest gurdwaras of politics.

This (yesterdays clash) is the result of politics dominating the gurdwaras. People must understand that a gurdwara is not a place to fight. The community as a whole should raise the voice on this issue. It is never too late. He also wondered why political leaders were totally silent on the issue.

SGPC member Bibi Kiranjot Kaur felt that the community has suffered a lot after Operation Bluestar but there has been no sense of closure at all. She said todays youth are directionless as there is no Sikh leader (non-political) who can channelise their energy in a positive manner and guide them.

She said the sort of hooliganism which was resorted to by Sikh youths in yesterdays clash was damaging to the community.

She said it needs to be investigated that while nothing happened in the first 30 years, why such clashes have been taking place on the anniversary over the past couple of years.

Who is sending these youths many of whom are clean-shaved? Why are they creating fear among devotees by brandishing swords? All this needs to be thoroughly probed, she said.

Former Guru Nanak Dev University VC SP Singh said it reflects an undercurrent of some sort of resentment with the Panthic policy of those at the helm of affairs. He said this undercurrent needs to be checked as it is not a healthy sign. If ignored, the resentment will only increase, which will lead to an alarming situation, he added.

Former SGPC secretary Kulwant Singh justified the action taken by the SGPC task force against the Sikh youth. While the SGPC task forces action was flayed last year, it was not the case this time, he added.

Source - http://www.tribuneindia.com/news/punjab/rid-gurdwaras-of-politics-say-sikh-intellectuals/90946.html

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There is one solution: give the Akal Takht to either the Budha Dal or the Taksal; our Panth isn't ready to do that, so then our Panth will keep elections.

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There is one solution: give the Akal Takht to either the Budha Dal or the Taksal; our Panth isn't ready to do that, so then our Panth will keep elections.

Eh, I mean if it goes to either one you think the other will give alliance to them? Haumai is a spreading disease within our Panth and can even affect Singhs of either Taksal or Budha Dal it is risky in my opinion. Especially in the state of the two it will not be any good for the Panth. Sarbat Khalsa is the way to go in my opinion to decide the future..

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Eh, I mean if it goes to either one you think the other will give alliance to them? Haumai is a spreading disease within our Panth and can even affect Singhs of either Taksal or Budha Dal it is risky in my opinion. Especially in the state of the two it will not be any good for the Panth. Sarbat Khalsa is the way to go in my opinion to decide the future..

You don't like the era Jarnail Singh Bhinderwale was in the Akal Takht? He's a taksali.
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Where were these sikh "intellectuals" when sangat is blocked off from having Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji's darshan because Badals or a bollywood actor or actress or a political characters come to Sri Harmandir Sahib? Sangat is herded off like a bunch of sheep for these corrupt officials. Tie up your beard, write a couple of papers, sip tea in a comfy chair and now blame the common folk for the issues at Sri Harmandir Sahib? These intellectuals should be the first to be put on the chopping block. The Sikh youth is misdirected? What about the clowns in SGPC uniform? They have sold Sikhi for a rupee to the indian government. But these sikh intellectuals are hush about such betrayal of Sikhs. If the pen is mightier than the sword. Why haven't these sikh intellectuals solved the problem of corruption at Sri Akal Takht Sahib? Sant Jarnail Singh ji Khalsa had the pen and sword in hand. He was ready to use both appropriately.

Issue is not Sikh youth have lost direction. The issue here is the elders Sikhs (intellectuals, politicians, babas, professors, etc) who were to hold on to Sikhi izzat have sold the izzat of Sikhi for a rupee. Did Bhai Mani Singh ji, Baba Deep Singh ji, Bhai Taru Singh ji, or any other Gursikh compromise Sikhi teachings anywhere? NEVER!!!!! They rather give their head than let Sikhi fall. Today is the opposite. Make compromises, don't worry we are still Sikhs. Plus we achieve more worldly accomplisments by compromising.

These intellectuals can go to hell!!

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You don't like the era Jarnail Singh Bhinderwale was in the Akal Takht? He's a taksali.

No, I support Sant Jarnail Singh Ji, but what I am trying to say we are all part of the Khalsa and picking favorites of who's hands the Akal Takht should go to is risky. Akal Takht has superiority. Seriously we don't know how our jathedars are picked out these days, but most likely ones who do service of Badal. Right now to be completely honest today's Taksal is not what is was like in the 20th century. Dhumma is big sellout and a disgrace to the Taksal. Once all Indian politicans especially Punjab ones have their hands off of Sikh institutions which only can be done with the sword and not the pen and our Sikh leaders are chosen wisely depending on their jeevan not their service to politicans then I will have some hope. But on a serious note, Akal Takht needs to be in hands of the Khalsa again not pakhandi Sikh politican sellouts.

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Where were these sikh "intellectuals" when sangat is blocked off from having Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji's darshan because Badals or a bollywood actor or actress or a political characters come to Sri Harmandir Sahib? Sangat is herded off like a bunch of sheep for these corrupt officials. Tie up your beard, write a couple of papers, sip tea in a comfy chair and now blame the common folk for the issues at Sri Harmandir Sahib? These intellectuals should be the first to be put on the chopping block. The Sikh youth is misdirected? What about the clowns in SGPC uniform? They have sold Sikhi for a rupee to the indian government. But these sikh intellectuals are hush about such betrayal of Sikhs. If the pen is mightier than the sword. Why haven't these sikh intellectuals solved the problem of corruption at Sri Akal Takht Sahib? Sant Jarnail Singh ji Khalsa had the pen and sword in hand. He was ready to use both appropriately.

Issue is not Sikh youth have lost direction. The issue here is the elders Sikhs (intellectuals, politicians, babas, professors, etc) who were to hold on to Sikhi izzat have sold the izzat of Sikhi for a rupee. Did Bhai Mani Singh ji, Baba Deep Singh ji, Bhai Taru Singh ji, or any other Gursikh compromise Sikhi teachings anywhere? NEVER!!!!! They rather give their head than let Sikhi fall. Today is the opposite. Make compromises, don't worry we are still Sikhs. Plus we achieve more worldly accomplisments by compromising.

These intellectuals can go to hell!!

Truly enough that's what Sikhi has become in Punjab today sadly. Most of them are sellouts.

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