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The title 'Shaheed' should be conferred upon only someone who knowingly and willingly lays down their life for Sikhi, i.e. a conscious decision to embrace a guaranteed death.

When it comes to high-pressure situations such as a protest and a march for a cause, I find the line becomes a bit blurred. In that situation you could argue you're taking your life into your own hands, but equally you don't wish to die, although there's a chance you might. In that situation I honestly don't know what those who lose their lives should be termed as.

What's Bhai Fauja Singh Ji to you?
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What's Bhai Fauja Singh Ji to you?

That's what I was saying earlier. I'm erring towards Shaheed though, because of the situation they were in. Of course, looking at Bhai Fauja Singh's life beyond the incident that caused their death would tell you they were a remarkable individual and worthy of the honour of being labeled a Shaheed.

Some may call it semantics, but giving someone such a title should not be taken lightly IMO.

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In my Nana's Pind, Talhan, dist. Jalandhar, there is a Guru Ghar that was erected in memory of a bazurg Gursikh who was named a Shaheed after he met with an accident in a well whilst installing a pulley. His name was Baba Nihaal Singh. He was an upstanding Sikh, but to call him a martyr for dying whilst going about his daily profession really is extravagantly silly.

Its not just the term Shaheed that gets thrown around with careless abandon. Mahapurakh, Sant, Giani, Brahmgiani, all of these titles are administered too readily.

I've been there, it's the only place I've seen with so many Akhand Paaths going on at the same time. I never knew that was how he became 'shaheed'.

In my opinion to become shaheed is a very big honour. Only after doing lots of kamai in this life or past lives, one can become a shaheed. We can carry on giving titles or saying so and so is shaheed or not but only Guru Sahib knows who is a true shaheed.

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The normal definition of something is the definition that most people use. That's why it's called norm-al, or that which is prevailing.

Forget being dharmic, what you should really focus on Preeet is purchasing a dictionary.

I really want to know how Sikhi is normal by any means?
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I really want to know how Sikhi is normal by any means?

Last time I remember, the Sikh dharmic def wasn't normal. I was talking based on a Sikh viewpoint, not in a normal view, since this is a Sikh website.

What in God's name are the two of you talking about? I wasn't saying Sikhi was normal, only that if an opinion is held by most Sikhs on a subject, such as the meaning of the word Shaheed, then it is by definition the normal view among Sikhs.

Are you determined to take objection to everything I write, ever?

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More like the normal definition among Middle Easterns.. Remember that we aren't Middle Eastern and that we have different definitions to some words if they apply to something new. Such as, our religion?? If it's applied in a Sikh point of view, then the meaning can be different and only applied to our sangh, rather than the 'normal'.

Are we ever going to agree on ANYTHING?

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