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Why would they want to go back to their roots? Did you know how Muslims treated black African people? Let me tell you.

While many cultures have names for black people ie Indians call Black people 'Kaleh' and there is nothing much wrong in that. But Arabs had the most disrespectful term ever for a black person. The Arabic word for black person is 'Abid' . Abid simply means Slave. Thats right the arabs referred to a black person as 'Slave' They didnt even have a name for blacks. The simply refered to them as 'slave' 'Abid'

Incidentally many Blacks have the name 'Abdullah' This means the slave of allah'

Same goes for Sikhs.You must have been aware about caste distinctions among Sikhs even though Sikhism strongly rejects caste system. Some Jatt Sikhs consider themselves suprior to Ram Garias or Ravi Dasis Or Niran Karis.Many don't even consider the Niran Karis as Sikhs.What a pity that the religion which stood against Caste system now has caste based Gurudwars.The resentment against Jatt Sikhs' treatment of low caste Sikhs can be clearly seen when some low castes Sikhs converted to Christianity.Same goes for Muslims.Shia and Sunnis have diff mosques.

This is bound to happen coz every religion was created by Humans.I still wonder that even after hundreds of years of their death men like Jesus,Buddha,Mahavira,Muhammad and all Sikh Guru Sahibaans still influence lives of billions of people on globe.

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Okay I knew at the time of writing that I was not 100% on the statistics but even one third of the entire Muslim population is a big chunk. What Im trying to get as is alot of Muslims are always saying. That their religion contain many different races unlike other religions like Sikhism or Hinduism.

A Muslim is a Muslim does not matter from which race he blongs.African Muslims take as much seriously Islam as Pakis or Indian Muslims do.They do believe that there would be paradise and hell after death.And they really mean it.BTW would like to apply the logic of "Naive" on Punajbis as u knw majority converted to Islam 15 % converted to Sikhism whereas rest stayed as Hindus ? What do u say ?

If you think they are so Naive why don't you go and try to convert those Africans (wether Christian or Muslim .Your choice).Lag pata javay ga hahahahah
I don't know why some people take the Africans so easy
1/3 of Muslims live in Africa.And all the Muslims who live in Africa are not Blacks.I think that guy DTF is right.15 % Muslims are Black.Bcoz right from Morocco to Egypt people in these countries are not Black.They live in Africa so they can be called as Africans but not blacks.30 % Muslims are from Sub Continent.Muslims still go to preach Islam in Africa.My prof told us about his visit to Togo for Dawah purpose.
By the way don't worry If we have a Big population.Even now Sikhs have started parchaar soon you will too have massive numbers. Good Luck to you Guyz :D

P.S Hindus have many ethnic groups like Punjabis , Gujaratis ,Marathi,Tamil,Bihari etc whereas Sikhsism is confined mostly to Punjabis.

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Well not just Arabs but almost every Muslim is considered a slave of Allah.The word Islam itself means submission to the will of Allah.And low attendance of mosques does not mean that that those Muslims have no love for their religion or Muslim community.Many Muslims drink alcohol and practice fornication , watch porn that does not mean that they have less love for Islam.In fact those guys who did 9/11 (I don't support their barbarous acts by the way) were seen in bars drinking alcohol etc hope u got my point.

And I don't who your Turkish friends are they might be Atheists or staunch secular but don't be in illusion Turkey is one of the few countries where Pakistan has good image. Generally Turkish people and Pakistanis have good relations.People of modern day Pakistan supported Turkey during Caliphate movements Muslims gave donations for Turkish army in those days since then we have very good relations with them.Even Turkish nationalists acknowledge that.I can show you even Pakistanis who hate Arabs and other Muslims like Hassan Nisar who have no love lost for Arabs.Such people can be found in every community.Even some Punjabi Muslims looked down upon Bengali Muslims.But generally speaking an average Muslim from any community has great sense of belonging to Muslim Ummah and some Pakistanis esp seculars made fun of this Muslim Ummah concept but again you can't make 100 % people from any community to agree on one point and Muslims are no exception to it.You know I have Turkish friends who hate their founding father Kamal Ata Turk for making Turkey a Secular republic.There are always some sections of secular in almost every Muslim community who look down upon Muslims from other ethnicites. Muslims from secular countries took part in Charlie Hebdo protests in great numbers.In Turkey and in Russian regions such as Chechnya Muslims protested against Charlie Hebdo which clearly shows that Muslims from secular countries still have a great attachment to Islam.Don't let your some secular Arab or Turk friend ignore ground realities in the Muslim world.

See how even secular communites of Muslims Chehcans have great love for Islam.Heart warming to see so many people shouting Allah O Akbar :p

And Pakistanis are not modern converts. Pashtuns of Pakistan converted to islam in 7 or 8th century.Same goes for Baloch Muslims.Punjabi Muslims started to convert to Islam from 12 century onwards.Every Muslim in this world is converted in some way.Even the family of Prophet Muhammad was not Muslims at one point.Whole of Arabia was not Muslims.Turks too were shamniists before converting to Islam.Persians were Zoroastrians. Paki/Indian Muslims were Hindus.Afghans were Buddhist/Hindus same goes for Bengali Muslims.Indonesian and Malaysian Muslims too are converts.So basically every Muslims is convert

By the way I find it hard to digest that those Turkish friends of yours look down upon Indians and Pakis but they get along with you guys even though you are Indians and have same ethnicity as most of Pakistanis have.This clearly shows that your Turkish friends are either Atheists or Secular which they don't represent whole Turkish community.

Atheism is growing in every part of the world but the problem with many people is that they always look to other communities weak point like you guys are always ready to point that how atheism is growing in Muslim societies whereas you completely ignore to look in your own community.Atheism is also growing in India and Sikhs community you just need to open your eyes to see that as I've told you that instead of looking for Muslim atheists you should join some Punjabi Atheists groups and then you will know how many punjabis from Sikhs background are leaving Sikhism for Atheism.

True many Muslims leave Islam but we Muslims produces millions of babies every year so that does not have huge impact on our over all demography. Dawah centers are preaching Islam in almost every non Muslim country.If thousands of leaving Islam then there are thousands of those people in western countries who are accepting Islam to the extent that they are willing to fight for Muslim causes.

There is friction between Pakis and Arabs. Why dont we see mix marriages between these communities? Why do turkish and other arabic people have their own mosques.

Sikhs go to any Gurdwara it is not caste based. Even if they are all Sikhs go to any Gurdwara. Unlike arabs and pakis.

Islam is a divided community with so much hatred for each other. sunni v shia and arabs all fight between themselves.

Sikhs are alot more united then Muslims.

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There are quite a lot of youtube videos of ex-muslims who have left Islam and have had to deal with the reactions of their family members.

I think you need to be true to yourself because they deception that you are playing on your family can be detrimental to your mental health. I think you should get a referral from your doctor to some counselling where you can work through your issues. Unfortunately the options are either full time paid up membership of the Islam cult and all the entails or a life free from the fear of allah's hellfire but full of fear from even your nearest and dearest. I remember discussing with a Muslim years ago and when the question was put to him whether he would support the sharia punishment of death if his mother became an apostate he was clear that he would! This is the kind of person that Islam create if he is born into the religion or attracts if he is convert,

Bro I think you are taking me as some kind of frustrated guy.Well I can assure you that I'm not.
I was not very religious person at all.I used to think that religion only divides humanity.So I was very critical of religion then I joined Atheist groups on Facebook (mostly Pakistani and Indian ) where I find many Atheists from Hindu background and most of them were supporters of Modi. They were extremely anti Muslim and anti Pakistan.They were quick to defend Modi and India and they never miss a chance to abuse Pakistan.That was the turning point in my life.I began to feel guilty for betraying my community I thought if these people can defend their country and a mass murderer like Narednra Modi and they are also quick to defend Hindus against Muslims even though they themselves are Atheists.Then what's wrong with me ? So I decided right there and then that all this high talk of morality and Atheism can go to hell.From now on I would also do the same.I wonder if they can stay loyal to their identity and their community then why can't I ?
My English is not very good but I hope you will get my point.
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@Sheikh Yo Bro

Well Sheikh Bro,Good Luck to all those people who leave Islam.If they are satisfied then most welcome.
Here is an Antheist from Sikh background

There is friction between Pakis and Arabs. Why dont we see mix marriages between these communities? Why do turkish and other arabic people have their own mosques.

Sikhs go to any Gurdwara it is not caste based. Even if they are all Sikhs go to any Gurdwara. Unlike arabs and pakis.

Islam is a divided community with so much hatred for each other. sunni v shia and arabs all fight between themselves.

Sikhs are alot more united then Muslims.

This is because Muslims are not a single ethnic group unlike Sikhs who are united by one langauge.Muslims have dozens of ethnic groups that's why they have diff mosques.A Muslim can go to any mosque.Some of my cousins live in Netherlands and they go to Moroccon mosques for prayers.So your statement is completly wrong that Muslims and Arabs don't go to each other's mosque.
Agreed there is friction between Arabs and Pakiz but even in Pakistan there is friction among diff ethnic groups.A north Indian muslim is quite diff than a south Indian Muslim.Having said that does not mean that they don't have a sense of belonging to Muslim Ummah.There were a lot protests in in South Indian cities like bangalore in 2012 against that Islam bashing movie.
An avergae Paki ,Arab or Indian Muslim would react in almost same way against Islam Bashing.
Muslims from diff ethnic back grounds marry each other in western countries and there is nothing in Islam which forbids them doing so.
If Gurudwaras are not caste based than why they are named as Ramgaria Gurudwara why not just Gurudwara ? True ,Turks,Arabs and Pakis have their own mosque but there is a big cultural gap between these groups and they are all united because of Islam other wise they have nothing in common with each other.But that is not the case with Sikhs.Majority of Sikhs have same ethnic background have same culture and most of them belong to same state Punajb. Yet they have different gurudwars even though most of them belong to same ethnic group.
I know that Sunni and Shia mosques exist but I have yet to find a caste based Mosque.Like Jatt Muslim Masjid or Cheema Masjid ,Bajwa Masjid etc (Correct me If am wrong)
Same goes for Sikhism.Sikhsism is also a divided society.Jatts Sikhs and other low caste Sikhs don't get along well.Jatt Sikhs vs Nirankaris friction.Hatred for eachother.
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@Sheikh Yo Bro

Well Sheikh Bro,Good Luck to all those people who leave Islam.If they are satisfied then most welcome.

Here is an Antheist from Sikh background

This is because Muslims are not a single ethnic group unlike Sikhs who are united by one langauge.Muslims have dozens of ethnic groups that's why they have diff mosques.A Muslim can go to any mosque.Some of my cousins live in Netherlands and they go to Moroccon mosques for prayers.So your statement is completly wrong that Muslims and Arabs don't go to each other's mosque.

Agreed there is friction between Arabs and Pakiz but even in Pakistan there is friction among diff ethnic groups.A north Indian muslim is quite diff than a south Indian Muslim.Having said that does not mean that they don't have a sense of belonging to Muslim Ummah.There were a lot protests in in South Indian cities like bangalore in 2012 against that Islam bashing movie.

An avergae Paki ,Arab or Indian Muslim would react in almost same way against Islam Bashing.

Muslims from diff ethnic back grounds marry each other in western countries and there is nothing in Islam which forbids them doing so.

If Gurudwaras are not caste based than why they are named as Ramgaria Gurudwara why not just Gurudwara ? True ,Turks,Arabs and Pakis have their own mosque but there is a big cultural gap between these groups and they are all united because of Islam other wise they have nothing in common with each other.But that is not the case with Sikhs.Majority of Sikhs have same ethnic background have same culture and most of them belong to same state Punajb. Yet they have different gurudwars even though most of them belong to same ethnic group.

I know that Sunni and Shia mosques exist but I have yet to find a caste based Mosque.Like Jatt Muslim Masjid or Cheema Masjid ,Bajwa Masjid etc (Correct me If am wrong)

Same goes for Sikhism.Sikhsism is also a divided society.Jatts Sikhs and other low caste Sikhs don't get along well.Jatt Sikhs vs Nirankaris friction.Hatred for eachother.

Technically speaking there are no caste based Gurdwaras. Ramgharia is not really a caste, it is the name of a fort that is related to Jassa Singh Ramgharia (I think) that Tarkhans who came from East Africa have affiliated themselves with.

The caste domination is at the commitee level not necessarily at the Sangat level.You will find Sikhs from different backgrounds going to gurdwaras that are commitee dominated by other castes.

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1. Hindus worship Shiva, Bramhma, Krishna, Vishnu, Kali, Durga, Ganesh and others. Sikhism instructs to believe in One Almighty God. "The performance of countless millions of other devotions is not even equal to one devotion to the Name of God" (Guru Granth Sahib Ji, 1163). » More Info

2. Hindus perform idol worship. Sikhism instructs not to perform idol worship and not to worship anyone else besides God. Guru Granth Sahib Ji is the Holy Scripture of Sikhs. Sikhs bow their head in the Gurdwara Sahib to Guru Granth Sahib Ji as a sign of respect but Sikhs do not worship the scriptures. Guru Ji is the spiritual teacher for Sikhs and shows the way to meet God. Guru Nanak Dev Ji instructs that idol worship will not lead one to salvation. » More Info

3. Hindus practice caste system. Hindu society is divided into four basic caste clusters. People are ranked according to their caste and are considered either superior or inferior. Sikhism instructs to consider all humans equal regardless of caste, color, race, class and gender. » More Info

4. Muslims practice polygamy. Muslim men can have up to 4 wives. Guru Nanak Dev Ji completely denounced one getting married to more than one individual. According to Sikhism, marriage is a sacred union of two souls. » More Info

5. Muslims practice animal sacrifice. Guru Nanak Dev Ji instructed that killing of God’s creations in the name of God is totally ironic. » More Info

6. Muslims women do not have equal status. Sikhism instructs to treat women equally as men. » More Info

7. Hindus fast on holy days and Muslims fast during the month of Ramadan. Sikhism instructs that making your body suffer will not help you to meet God, meditation of God is above all.

8. Both Hindus and Muslims cut their hair. Sikhism instructs not cut their hair as a respect towards God and live the way God made us. » More Info

9. Both Hindus and Muslims consider their religion superior. Guru Nanak Dev Ji instructed to focus on meditation of God instead of glorifying a religion. To the Muslims Guru Nanak says, "The Muslims praise the Islamic law; they read and reflect upon it, but God's bound servants are those who dedicate themselves to see God" (Guru Granth Sahib Ji, 465).

10. Both Hindus and Muslim make pilgrimages. Sikhism instructs to search for God inside your soul. One does not need to go to pilgrimages in order to be close to God. In addition, Sikhism instructs that taking bath at pilgrimages do not wash sins. Bathing at Ganga, and Triveni does not clean one’s soul. The only way to clean your soul is to love and meditate on God. » More Info

11. Moreover, Sikhism instructs that the purpose of life is to become one with God, to merge in the One whom we originated from. » More Info

12. Finally, Sikhism shows the way to attain salvation and become One with God. Sikhism instructs that does not have to fast, abstain, go on renunciation or enter a monastery in order to meet God. All you have to do is have faith, recite the Name of God and remember Him for each possible moment. Sikh Gurus themselves got married and lived a family life and showed everyone that you can meet God while living a family life. » More Info

Guru Nanak Dev Ji laid the foundation of Sikhism as instructed by God. God sent the next nine Gurus to this world to strengthened the roots of Sikhism and enlightened people to meditate on One God only. Many people found the true meaning of Sikhism and those who did joined and embraced Sikhism with love. Sikhism tells everyone to get rid of egotism, anger, greed, and materialistic things and live a humble life. God sees all and your worship will be fruitful with time.

It is completely wrong to consider Sikhism a sect of any other religion. Just like you wouldn’t consider Islam a sect of Christianity, you should not consider Sikhism a sect of either Islam or Hinduism or a combination of both.

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It is completely wrong to consider Sikhism a sect of any other religion. Just like you wouldn’t consider Islam a sect of Christianity, you should not consider Sikhism a sect of either Islam or Hinduism or a combination of both.

I know very well that Sikhism is different religion.It has nothing to do with Islam or Hinduism.Actually some guy has said that Islam copied many things from Judaism so i replied him that Sikhism too copied somethings from Hinduism.Simple

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