Should We Support Lgbt Community?

[singhcity]

Im confused about how i should feel with the current events surroinding the LGBT community as a sikh. I accept that you cant be gay and be sikh or you can but you have to remain celbate for life, there is no mention of beging gay in gurbani and it is deemed un natural and lustful and part of kaljug and kaam, but does this mean we should be against it? surely sikhi would be against discrimination and inequality, and me being someone who has experienced discrimination bc of being sikh and a minority like many of us probably have its hard to be against it as we feel emepthetic, but, does this mean therefore that we should support it ?

im really confused on the opinion i should have tbh lol, and p.s i'm not gay aha, it just something that people have asked me about and what the sikh opinion on it is and i cant really give a difinitive answer on it because i dont know enough, my opinion right now is leaning on the side that we should be nuetral and hence support it as everyone should be free to pursue their happiness and choose their life freely but at the same time understand that a sikh has responsibilities to live in the footsteps of our gurus. and if you are sikh you cannot do things that may be accepted by the rest of the world as 'okay' and normal, like smoking or drinking thats only my take on it tho, i look forward to reading others views and making a solid opinion fromt that and gurbani.

[Kira]

it is deemed un natural and lustful and part of kaljug and kaam, but does this mean we should be against it?

Who deemed it un-natural and lustful lol. It's about as lustful as heterosexuality and just as "un-natural" .

there is no mention of beging gay in gurbani

That should be your answer lol. If Guru-sahib choose not to address it, it means it's not even worth thinking about as it doesn't affect us morally.

You'll get a-lot of conflicting views from Sikhs here and in the community. The main problem is that most sikhs are Punjabi/Indian first then Sikhs lol, since India considers it evil you'll hear the same views from many people.

Sexuality is hardly an issue for us as GurSikhs, Gays are persecuted world wide, their outcasts of society and treated like a disease, Showing them sympathy would be almost as insulting as giving them insults. They want to be treated like equals, they want the same opportunities everyone else has. We should stand up to them in that respect.

[GurburAkal]

No.

[hsingh8963]

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[singhcity]

Who deemed it un-natural and lustful lol. It's about as lustful as heterosexuality and just as "un-natural" .

the lust needed with a man and a women is a requirment to reprodue, lust between a man and a man does not have a function a part from kaam, and hetrosexuality is not un natural lol what makes u say that?

[Kira]

the lust needed with a man and a women is a requirment to reprodue, lust between a man and a man does not have a function a part from kaam, and hetrosexuality is not un natural lol what makes u say that?

Not anymore. You can reproduce without even having sex. Lust is the obsession with sex, what you're saying is one needs to rely on Kaam to reproduce. It's hardly un-natural in the sense that it is found even in many species of animals.

[Balkaar]

Hasn't this exact same topic appeared in several other guises quite recently?

Examine these links, if you would, everything you could conceivably wish to know about this topic has been covered here, exhaustively:

http://www.sikhsangat.com/index.php?/topic/77200-hypothetical-new-sikh-sect-that-accepts-homosexuality/

http://www.sikhsangat.com/index.php?/topic/77269-if-sikhs-were-forced-to-marry-gay-couples/

[Guest Jacfsing2]

As human beings yes, we should support them to assist them breaking their Kaam, but not to encourage them to continue. It may take time but it can be done through GurPrassad. It's alright if they don't want to get as some people don't want to for whatever reason.

[Jonny101]

NO!

[Guest up in the mountains]

Waheguru ji ka khalsa waheguru ji ki fateh

Don't judge anyone

If people get oppressed we will stand up for them

We support everyone

Through the support of guru sahib

We don't have to label everything

We just have to see waheguru in it

Waheguru ji ka khalsa waheguru ji ki fateh