Drugs - God Help Punjab

[SheikhYoBooty]

LOL were you on something when you wrote that "And this is why a lot of Sikh guys prefer Muslim girls nowadays."

Veer Ji i didn't mean the majority but "a lot" meant a significant percentage of Sikh guys are now married with Iranian girls, Ismaili women, Turkish women etc just like how a lot of Sikh guys always married Hindu girls right from the start.

Maybe not in New Zealand or the UK but in BC + the GTA u would be surprised at just how many.

But it's all good as all these women are new Sikhs and attend the Gurdwara and everything.

But on topic it's sad that these Pakistani drug smugglers are getting so rich off flooding our community with drugs.

[JagsawSingh]

But on topic it's sad that these Pakistani drug smugglers are getting so rich off flooding our community with drugs

.

See this is one of the reasons that the problem has got 10000% worse in the last 5 years without us even realising what is happening.

We, all of us, despite our claims of being sophisticated educated western born urbanites, have been and still are asleep.

For example, we still get many posts here on this forum where posters criticise bhangra songs about 'sharaab'. What none of us realised is that there is currently an exlosion of bhangra records coming out of Punjab with songs about 'chita de line'. These bhangra songs are being played everywhere. What none of us realised is that the words refer to doing lines of coke. You go to any wedding , party or even family gathering in Punjab and there is song after song about 'chita'. Cocaine, crack cocaine and Meths have spread across Punjab like wildfire over the course of the last year. And yet here we are still thinking the problem is purely with heroin from Pakistan. Here the Punjab drug agencies are still equating heroin, cocaine and meths with cough syrup and beer.

So I say to all of you, ignore the official Punjab drug figures because they are irrelevent and out of date. Irrellevent because none of us should care less if a man drinks a beer now and then or takes more cough syrup than he needs to and it is things like these that are included in Punjab's drug consumption figures. Both of those are silly things to do but in the real world they are tiny unimportant things. We need to educate Punjab about the real killers. Killers of not only their children but also of their society as they know it: Heroin, Cocaine and Meths. Our community needs to place a much much bigger stigma on these killers than it currently does. Right now, our community places doing heroin and cocaine with drinking a glass of wine. When a society does that it should not surprised by the result.

The problem now goes way beyond the heroin that comes in from Pakistan. The cocaine comes in from African and Isreali dealers from the rest of India and the Meths is cooked up by our own Punjabi families in their rural farmhouses before being distributed to the rest of Punjab.

All of this happened while our eyes were closed. We failed, that is true. But we should at least wake up now that we know. But if history teaches us just one thing it is the fact that history doesn't teach Punjabis a single thing. Now that we know we still won't wake up. We'll still be stuck in a 1990's time warp and criticise bhangra songs about sharab and pretend not to notice the plethora of songs about chita. The older generation still won't notice or understand that their children are doing bhangra to songs glorifying doing lines of coke and we'll all still keep saying Pakistanis and their heroin are the one and only problem. We will never learn.

Never knew things were this bad. I appreciated youth from poorer families were drawn to drugs for various reasons, but girls and those from affluent households too? I'm genuinely disturbed

I feel exactly the same way mistersingh. Emotionaly, these videos have had a profoundly sad effect on me. As I stated in the opening post, when our girls and baba are like this what hope is there for our boys ?

And on a different level, the last 2 videos (from the UK) are equally sad and do, in some way, articulate what many here have said, the fact that our parcharaks are telling all and dundry to keep their dastars and shak amrit without bothering with moral duties. The result is that we have now, in the west, gone down the same route the Muslims went and favoured quantity over quality. That is why these dastar wearing amritdharis feel no shame in smoking cigarettes.

There is very little at the moment to feel optimistic about. Its all looking rather dire.

[DTF]

Brilliant post StarStriker Ji (though Shashi Kant is now a sehajdhari Sikh).

Jagsaw Ji whilst the situation is dire, we as ordinary Sikhs have the ability to remedy it.

Instead of chanting slogans which achieve nothing year after year for political objectives (that anyone with an eye on what is occurring in Punjab knows are not going to occur any time soon) we need to prioritise the internal war against drugs, alcohol, female infanticide, biraderi apartheid, illiteracy, cancer and poverty.

The drugs war is a two pronged assault against the Sikh Panth which facilitates the constructions of large multi-million dollar mansions in Pakistan and the Delhi NCR region off the back of Sikh misery. Interestingly, even the biggest bhangra music label (Moviebox) which deliberately encourages all the drugs lyrics is Pakistani owned. You may not be aware of the considerable number of post marital deaths on wedding nights caused by a combination of sustained drug use followed by viagara. All of which is leading to demographic oblivion going forward if we don't tackle it.

So we need a Khalsa Fauj on the border stopping drugs coming in from Pakistan and also vigilante forces in every village to prevent the wholesale proliferation of synthetic drugs which Delhi encourages. Instead of fighting amongst ourselves, we need to unite against the threat that threatens us all. If people have no meaning or motivation in their life (junkies) there is so much seva they can be directed towards in order to change their perspective a little. We won't succeed in every case but we can do our best.

It's vital that we prioritise education as with even a modicum of education, the chances of youngsters falling prey to the scourge of drugs falls dramatically. We in the Diaspora have a vital role and the vast majority of our charitable donations should be directed at the education of the next generation of children coming up in Punjab as they represent by far the biggest priority.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XhxpHQ8Kwag

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKnTrUVv7s4

Until 99% of Sikhs do not touch drugs there is no real prospect of achieving political objectives that we often rally around whilst failing to realise that if we do not immediately tackle the menace of drugs, alcohol, female infanticide, biraderi apartheid, cancer, illiteracy and poverty there is no prospect of achieving the stated aims of certain slogans.

We need to realise that every orchestrated act of Beadbi is a deliberate act of our opponents to take our eyes off what should be the focus of our attention, namely the havoc caused by drugs, alcohol, female infanticide, biraderi apartheid, illiteracy, cancer and poverty.

We have been on the losing end of history ever since 1980 when DamDami Taksal made the unforgivable mistake to campaign for Congress and Indira Gandhi leading to her re-election leading to the Genocide of Sikhs by Congress. In 1980 Punjab was way ahead of China on all development indices, whilst now China is close to being the largest global economy (with an economy five times bigger than India's currently in the context of Indian and Chinese economies being on par prior to Indira Gandhi regaining power in 1980 after being in the political wilderness for a few years).

Either we can follow the same failed methods of sloganeering (and making the Sikh Panth an ever smaller population via our own restrictiveness in terms of who is a Sikh - whilst our opponents gain political strength by welcoming everyone to their fold) that have served us so badly the last 35years or we can direct attention to where it's needed right here right now in the context of the aim of our enemies being to reduce the Sikh percentage of the Punjab population to below 50% by the time of the 2021 census via the combined attack of biraderi apartheid, female infanticide, drugs et al. We should realise that inter-communal hatred is a deliberate ploy of those who fear what would happen if millions of so-called Hindu's across Punjab and other states were to realise that they are in fact sehajdhari Sikhs and strengthen the Sikh Panth immeasurably as a consequence.

We need united single saanjha Gurdwara's with only one in every pind and locality in the West for a united Panth.

Instead of fighting over minor theological issues we need to physically fight all drugs smuggling and dealing in Punjab.

We need a culture of seva for Sarbat da Bhala that gives the youth direction and makes them realise their blessings.

Education of the next generation is the key and even bigger priority than smaller numbers of political prisoners.

We need to realise that our Guru Sahib - Shabad Bani - is unbreakable and all incidents of Beadbi are a ruse.

Instead of allowing female infanticide we need to put abortion clinics out of business for demographic reasons.

[JagsawSingh]

You may not be aware of the considerable number of post marital deaths on wedding nights caused by a combination of sustained drug use followed by viagara

Oh I am aware of it DTF and this is partly the main point I'm trying to make, i.e the fact that we've taken our eye off the ball by continously being focussed on the heroin from Pakistan and the beer in the liquor shops. The problem, whilst we've asleep looking at the wrong things, has escalated to an unbelievable level. Now, taking your example, I have heard talk from people in Punjab about how the physically and socially devastating drug methamphetamine (ice) is the drug of choice for married couples to smoke together in a pipe in Punjab. Imagine what kind of a Punjab it is today where newly married couples lock themselves in their bedroom in order to smoke ice together and have a few days of non-stop sex......and their families are none the wiser as they just think its quaint and cute that the young couple love each other. That kind of Punjab....the kind of Punjab that exists today...is well and truly f****d ! You know all those 'sexologists' you see all over Punjab ? They even recommend methamphetamine as a cure for couples and their sex problems.

Now, as I said in my previous post, the methamphetamine (which is the most physicaly and socialy destructive drug ever) comes from homegrown Punjabi farms usually operated by ex-pat Punjabi americans and canadians and the root of the cocaine epidemic are the African and Isreali dealers in India. As I stated before, one of the reasons we let this happen is because we've stupidly been too fixated with the heroin coming from the Pakistanis which left us blind to to what was coming in and being done by others.

[MisterrSingh]

I use to think it was the searing heat and possibly the raw agricultural lifestyle that meant even relatively young Punjabi guys in their late 20's and early 30's seemed to look at least 10 or so years older than their actual age. Male relatives from older generations from back home worked harder than their modern counterparts, and they look about right for their ages on the whole. The younger generation have somehow prematurely aged whilst simultaneously shunning the physical agricultural work of previous generations. Now I'm beginning to think there's something sinister at play.

Some of these people may not be full-blown addicts, but there's got to be recreational use, like Jagsaw says, akin to smoking a cigarette or taking a few pegs of whiskey. What astounds me is that meth is not like popping a pill or taking a quick drag on a spliff; it is unbelievably destructive, and that's putting it mildly. Now, to see our sisters caught up in these shenanigans is just too much. What the heck is going on?

I don't know whether these people need a serious talking to or a helping hand. I just think they need help, full-stop.

[eduardo]

What the heck is going on?

A lot of drug use in the Uk is a result of boredom so maybe that has something to do with it.

[MisterrSingh]

A lot of drug use in the Uk is a result of boredom so maybe that has something to do with it.

Yeah, I understand that's a common reason, bro. But if someone's bored, get a hobby. Lift some weights, read a book, paint a picture, find some volunteer work to do, etc. Don't pump yourself up with substances. Life's a pain in the behind as it is. Why complicate things even further?

[JSinghnz]

Veer Ji i didn't mean the majority but "a lot" meant a significant percentage of Sikh guys are now married with Iranian girls, Ismaili women, Turkish women etc just like how a lot of Sikh guys always married Hindu girls right from the start.

Maybe not in New Zealand or the UK but in BC + the GTA u would be surprised at just how many.

But it's all good as all these women are new Sikhs and attend the Gurdwara and everything.

But on topic it's sad that these Pakistani drug smugglers are getting so rich off flooding our community with drugs.

Well, I find it quite difficult to believe that Muslim girls would marry Sikh boys without the latter converting to Islam first.

I know quite a few Muslims whose daughters got married to white boys but they became Muslims first.

[mrggg123]

Well, I find it quite difficult to believe that Muslim girls would marry Sikh boys without the latter converting to Islam first.

I know quite a few Muslims whose daughters got married to white boys but they became Muslims first.

not always... ive had muslim girlfriends in the past who said they would convert for me...

[JSinghnz]

not always... ive had muslim girlfriends in the past who said they would convert for me...

But never did. Lol