Is Gurbani Equal To Other Religious Texts

[harsharan000]

Brother Jacfsing2,

I am sorry to contradict you, but in the very first line of my post, I start with: Ik Oankar, Satgur parsad, jaap.

Right ?

So you see, nothing happens without His Grace, as He is nothing but an Infinte Ocaen of Love and Grace.

Sat Sree Akal Jee.

[Guest Jacfsing2]

Brother Jacfsing2,

I am sorry to contradict you, but in the very first line of my post, I start with: Ik Oankar, Satgur parsad, jaap.

Right ?

So you see, nothing happens without His Grace, as He is nothing but an Infinte Ocaen of Love and Grace.

Sat Sree Akal Jee.

ok.

[Jonny101]

As far as I am aware Gurbani is the only revealed scripture which was not only uttered and then written by the founder(Gurus) or written under the watchful eye of the founder of the religion. No other religion an claim this and this might result in those scriptures being diluted by interpolation since many of them were written down after the death of the founder of the religion. So in that sense, no scripture can equal Gurbani. As for our Gurus, they were without a doubt flawless. I don't want to do nindya about the founders of other religions but if one reads their biography one comes to the conclusion that they are not equal to the Gurus in their conduct and actions. Same is true for Gurmat. You can search all you want but it you will not be able to find any flaw in Gurmat. I can't say the same for other religions. Gurbani, Gurus, Gurmat is perfect in everyday.

[Bundha]

It is a totally false argument that Sikhism believes all paths lead to the same goal and thus all religions are equal. From its very inception, Gurmat (the Guru’s Path) has been declared a unique and distinct path.

Bhai Gurdaas jee writes: “In the world, Guru Nanak Sahib Ji established the authority (of his doctrines) and started a Path (of religion), devoid of any impurity.” (Vaar 1, Pauree 45 – Bhai Gurdaas Ji)

“God has given this gift. Nanak’s home is filled with only Naam, the Name of Waheguru. ||4||4||” (Ang 1136)

Without Naam, no one can be liberated and merge with God. Gurbani is clear about this fact:

“Those enshrined the True Name within their heart, those within is the flowing current of Naam, and those whose consciousness is attached to the vibrations of the Guru's Baani obtain all comforts and liberation from Maya (the illusionary world). O Nanak! Without the Naam, no one is saved; You too swim across to the other side this true way in which there no chance of drowning. ||9||7||” (Ang 1013)

Guru Nanak Sahib Ji is the only True Guru who has preached Naam, and given Gurmat-Naam. Only Gurmat has a concept such as Sach Khand and God-Realisation in such a clear way. Thus, Gurmat is the only path to Sach Khand, i.e. merging with God.

'Dhurki bani aai jin suggli chint mittai' - Gurbani comes straight from the top, from AkaalPurkh, and soothes all ills.

Nobody else can say this. Bani came from AkaalPurkh through the Gurus and they wrote it down word for word, who else can say this?

All other texts were not written by their prophets. Mohammad Sahib wrote down what was dictated by the angel Gabriel not God and it is full of some of the most hateful text.

[canucksingh]

"Don’t say the Vedas and the Books (Torah, Bible, Qura’an) are false. False is the one who does not study them." [1, 1350]

"Kabir says this loud and clear, and you should think over it in your own mind. God pervades all persons unseen. He is the same in the Hindu as well as in the Muslim." [1, 483]

"Some people call you Ram, others call You Khudaa. Some serve Gosain, some Allah. O Merciful Creator and Doer, have mercy upon me. Some bathe at holy places and others go for hujj. Some do pooja, others bow their heads. Some read the Vedas, others the Books. Some wear blue, others white. Some call themselves Muslims, others Hindus. Some seek bahisht, some suarg. O Nanak, say; whosoever has understood the Hukam (Divine order), has learnt the secret of God, the Master." [1, 885]

"The temple and the mosque are the same, pooja and namaaz are the same. All mankind is one but appears to be several (groups). (The existence as different entities) of gods, the anti-gods, the yakshas and gandharvs; of the Muslims and the Hindus; is merely the difference in dress (outer appearance) of (people from) different countries. All have the same eyes, the same ears, the same body and the same form. They are all made of earth, air, fire and water. Allah and the Formless God are the same; the Purans and the Qura’an are the same; all are the same appearance, the same form." [2, 19]

[Guest Jacfsing2]

"Dont say the Vedas and the Books (Torah, Bible, Quraan) are false. False is the one who does not study them." [1, 1350]

"Kabir says this loud and clear, and you should think over it in your own mind. God pervades all persons unseen. He is the same in the Hindu as well as in the Muslim." [1, 483]

"Some people call you Ram, others call You Khudaa. Some serve Gosain, some Allah. O Merciful Creator and Doer, have mercy upon me. Some bathe at holy places and others go for hujj. Some do pooja, others bow their heads. Some read the Vedas, others the Books. Some wear blue, others white. Some call themselves Muslims, others Hindus. Some seek bahisht, some suarg. O Nanak, say; whosoever has understood the Hukam (Divine order), has learnt the secret of God, the Master." [1, 885]

"The temple and the mosque are the same, pooja and namaaz are the same. All mankind is one but appears to be several (groups). (The existence as different entities) of gods, the anti-gods, the yakshas and gandharvs; of the Muslims and the Hindus; is merely the difference in dress (outer appearance) of (people from) different countries. All have the same eyes, the same ears, the same body and the same form. They are all made of earth, air, fire and water. Allah and the Formless God are the same; the Purans and the Quraan are the same; all are the same appearance, the same form." [2, 19]

Explanation of the quotes you just posted: First: those are just books, and false are they who don't study them, all the books posted require purely blind faith if one truly studied them without being brainwashed they won't follow those faiths.

Second quote: Vaheguru is in all people regardless how stupid and ignorant they are, and he showers his grace upon everyone.

3rd quote:This is just an explanation of all the things non-Sikhs do, but finalized with Guru Sahib saying those who understand True Hukam truly understand.

4th quote: All human beings are equal but not all faiths, an individual Muslim or Christian is equal as a human to a Sikh, but Guru Nanak is greater than Pakhandi Baba Jesus and Muhammad. The second part explains that both texts are equally 0 compared to Guru Sahib.

[Bundha]

If you read Dasam Granth Sahib you can see that all prophets sent by Akaal Purkh some how twisted God message. All twisted it to their gain.

Jesus Sahib, did not give Naam to his followers. This is the reason so many turn to the east, there is a yearning but they do not know what for. Their souls are crying for naam, but they do not get it in the west. The rest give up and turn to booze, good food and night clubs.

There is a guy at work he is a Christian. He sings all the time, his latest favourite is Everything is Awesome from the Lego Movie. If only he repeated Gods name, Jehova, how awesome that would be. But he has no concept of Naam, he knows nothing of it, his Guru never gave hime naam, how can he achieve mukhti ?

Mohammad Sahib, again changed the message, introduced circumcision, God does not require man to mutilate himself. Basically they can lie/cheat/misguide anyone who is a Kaffir - how can God be happy with this?

Buddha, turned totally inwards towards himself.

In Hinduism there is much good, but they lose the path when the follow idol rituals and devi/devtay pooja.

Only Guru Nanak Dev Ji propagated Gods true message, for there is no difference between Guru Nanak Dev Ji and Akaal Purkh Sahib. They are One and the same.

Guru-Kay-piyario attach your self to Guru Nanak/Gobind Singh (there is only One jyote) and do not look left or right, do not be dissuaded by anyones clever deceptive arguments. Keep your gaze downwards towards Gurus charan and KEEP WALKING on His path.

KEEP WALKING . . . . . . .one day you will get there !!!!!

[Bundha]

Sangat Ji, if you aim high you will achieve greatness. If you aim for a grade C, then a grade C is most likely what you will achieve.

If you regard Guru Nanak Dev Ji as a good human being who was a good teacher, then you will not get very far. If you cannot even recognise your Guru then how can you achieve mukhti?

Regard Guru Ji as One with God. Guru Nanak Dev Ji = Akaal Purkh.

There will be many who will argue against this, do not listen to them. Keep Guru Ji in your heart of hearts at all time. Yearn for Guru Ji like you yearn for your parents, or your spouse, or your children. If you are ever away from your family and you get that longing in your heart, make that longing for your Guru. People read many books but the knowledge is false, only through naam abhiase and meditation on Gurbani will you gain true knowledge, and it will come to you with total ease. Then you will know.

[MisterrSingh]

Sangat Ji, if you aim high you will achieve greatness. If you aim for a grade C, then a grade C is most likely what you will achieve.

Possibly the truest thing ever written on this website. Preach.

[simran345]

Sangat Ji, if you aim high you will achieve greatness. If you aim for a grade C, then a grade C is most likely what you will achieve.If you regard Guru Nanak Dev Ji as a good human being who was a good teacher, then you will not get very far. If you cannot even recognise your Guru then how can you achieve mukhti?Regard Guru Ji as One with God. Guru Nanak Dev Ji = Akaal Purkh.There will be many who will argue against this, do not listen to them. Keep Guru Ji in your heart of hearts at all time. Yearn for Guru Ji like you yearn for your parents, or your spouse, or your children. If you are ever away from your family and you get that longing in your heart, make that longing for your Guru. People read many books but the knowledge is false, only through naam abhiase and meditation on Gurbani will you gain true knowledge, and it will come to you with total ease. Then you will know.

Lovely words ji