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Basics Of Sikhi - Anand Karaj (Addressing The Controversy)


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The temple in Caldmore Walsall was involved in something very similar few weeks back. Apparently they agreed to a wedding then told the family no on the morning of the day. The police came and all sorts. This was apparently a wedding where the bride and groom were of different castes i think. I don't have the full story.

They did apologise on Sunday last, to the sangat. Typical pakandi singh the hollow fake apology is an English triat.!

Dont worry about this issue because the anad karag is a dying breed. These youngsters (irrespective of caste colour creed sex) are all having civil ceremonies in weird and wonderful places.

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See the problem is that the gurdwaras are not going to stop such marriages as wedding booking is the major source of income to stay afloat (not right though).

It is futile to protest against the family members of those marriages being held. Also, doing such damage our image everywhere.

Frustration/anger/protest should be solely focused on such management who knowing very well about hukam against such practice of inter-faith marriages and yet they allow it to happen.

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The thing is that Sikh Council UK or other Sikh organisation do not have any power to enforce on the Gurdwaras. They can only advise unless they themselves have members in the Gurdwara committees. What is needed is for the youth to get involved, in the last election the young members got a lot of votes even though they lost a number of their group who left the election due to underhand tactics by the other two groups. Only when the youth start to take over the Gurdwaras through youth committees, only then will the Akal Takht hukumnama be enforced.

I think the youth members need to learn from this. Understand how the corrupt commitee operates and counter their tactics when the next group of elections take place.

The corrupt commitee are on borrowed time and there will be a passing of the guard.

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As to the point about Sikhs drinking, smoking.....at the end of the day they're still Sikhs. Maybe not a practicing Sikh but still they're Sikhs. This is simply not comparable to someone from another faith wanting to marry in a Gurdwara.

IMHO, the root cause of all this is unbridled liberalism that is taught in schools and permeates every aspect of life in the west. Yet, many Sikhs living in the west will vote for the most liberal parties and call the conservatives 'racist' or 'narrow minded'. Did you vote for the party that legalized gay marriage? How about 'war on women' and a whole plethora of nonsensical claims? Well guess what, when you play with <banned word filter activated> your own hands will get dirty and some <banned word filter activated> will land on your own face. The chickens have come home to roost. What goes around comes around.

I have seen in other threads these very same posters crying about whats happening here calling the whites and conservatives who we're willing to stand up 'racist, 'xenophobic'....the usual labels. Yet here they are crying ( you know who you are) LOL!!!!!. You can't have your cake and eat it too.

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You hit the nail on the head with the Granthis and Kirtanis. It's really bad if we start disrespecting them and not see things from their perspective, at the end it comes down to the fault of the committee and those who allow these nastiks to be appointed. Anyone condoning highly disrespectful tone should reevaluate.

We shouldn't have the loser mentality of parroting "at least this, at least that" and not settle for anything lower than perfect in handling this situation because these snakes are trying their best to turn this into a smear campaign via the media.

Another issue that Sikh Council or whatever in the UK needs to take note of is also making sure there is balance and not only a peaceful discussion with the Giani Jis when its a girl from Sikh family, but also the same when it's a male - purely because these hippie weirdos are trying their best to get secularists, libs and other non-punjabi groups to get out their pitch-forks against those in favor of Sikh AK. In reality I don't think it's a big deal, but it would be smart to do this just to establish a stronger case and shutting up the individuals who think it's okay to go sleeping around with random people and getting an Anand Karaj with someone who isn't a Sikh.

It's true. If you speak to these Granthis and Kirtanis in private off camera face to face, they will totally agree with you that these inter faith AK are totally wrong. But they have no choice but to do what the corrupt committee member tells them. They are losers either way. If they don't perform these marriages then the committee will fire them but if they do it then we all think these guys are responsible for it which they arent. These Kirtanis and granthis have no power or say in these matters. These committee members are extremely evil. They have a turban and beard, but there is nothing religious about them. They run a gurdwara like it is some kind of business. First of all these elections are competely wrong way to elect these corrupt people because basically we are just electing these fake politician types to run our Gurdwaras. These committees and how they are elected have no bases in Sikhi tradition

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