Migrants And The West

[MisterrSingh]

If they are genuine refugees then there is no problem. However, there is going to be economic migrants intermingled in there and there will probably be ISIS guys in there too.

Normally with refugees you see men,women and children but when you see predominantly young men like in Calais it makes you wonder.

Reading hostile comments underneath articles on this crisis from, I imagine, white people I can easily foresee a situation where there will be a shocking rise of the Far Right across Europe in our lifetimes, especially if some of these individuals seeking refuge turn out to be of the militant variety in decades to come. In a way it is inevitable. But, as always, the decent and honest will be tarred with same brush due to the actions of a few bad apples.

[Ranjeet01]

Reading hostile comments underneath articles on this crisis from, I imagine, white people I can easily foresee a situation where there will be a shocking rise of the Far Right across Europe in our lifetimes, especially if some of these individuals seeking refuge turn out to be of the militant variety in decades to come. In a way it is inevitable. But, as always, the decent and honest will be tarred with same brush due to the actions of a few bad apples.

It is one thing if you accept several thousand refugees, but having hundreds of thousands of people in at one time is going to be very difficult to handle.

If UK takes in 800,000 to 1,000,000 people in at once is going to create a logistic nightmare. These are predominantly muslim migrants/refugees with the traditional higher birth rate which will create potentially greater demographic problems in a few years.

The fear of the indigenous white populations is that they are going to become a minority in their own country. The white chav class will resent it because access to resources such as housing will become even more strained (they already moan about being way down in the housing lists) .

It will also put a strain on the NHS and the medical systems.

I am sure that Hounslow/Ealing borough councils are rubbing their hands with glee with all the extra money they will get with more houses demolished to build high rise flats that can be given out to housing associations and of course our greedy Sikh landlords who will doubling their efforts to build more slum housing and bed - in -a -sheds whilst they themselves bugger off to more greener pastures.

[InderjitS]

....and of course our greedy Sikh landlords who will doubling their efforts to build more slum housing and bed - in -a -sheds whilst they themselves bugger off to more greener pastures.

Everyone's at it in these places not just Sikhs, they have ruined their own back gardens in the quest for money and you're right some have moved into affluent home counties, but the old guard have been doing this for 3 decades. Councils cannot keep up with the rate of these ugly outbuildings and very few are demolished.

Ealing Hospitals eventual development and proposed 270 homes will also no doubt bring the cash rolling in to its new owners.

[SheikhYoBooty]

There is one rule for millions of white skinned Arab Muslims being allowed in to the West.

Despite Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Qatar, Bahrain + Dubai being closer to go to + also speaking the Arabic language.

But when it comes to black-skinned non-Muslim Africans or Sikh refugees like Professor Bhullar none of these countries in Europe or North America would ever let millions of them in or would give a damn about millions killed.

[Ranjeet01]

Everyone's at it in these places not just Sikhs, they have ruined their own back gardens in the quest for money and you're right some have moved into affluent home counties, but the old guard have been doing this for 3 decades. Councils cannot keep up with the rate of these ugly outbuildings and very few are demolished.

Ealing Hospitals eventual development and proposed 270 homes will also no doubt bring the cash rolling in to its new owners.

Question regarding the hospital, will there be a new hospital or is it going to be almagamated with another to save costs.

This is what I do not get, there is going to be an increase in population in these boroughs but you then take away the infrastructure and resources to support these populations such as hospitals. You need more schools, more health services to support these populations. There is no thought or any planning that goes into what they are doing.

[StarStriker]

I propose a new resolution to this problem......replace every somalian in this country with syrians. No non-indigenous community has swallowed up free welfare/benefits money as much as the useless somalis have.

[proactive]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-34167044

Germans coming out of their homes today to welcome the refugees, handing out sweets to the children. (800,000 new arrivals this year) and even opening up their own homes for them.

Meanwhile, the people in Britain keep on moaning and whining, crying and complaining. No compassion for humans. Just constant talk about Arabs. Just constant talk about how we've taken in way too many and we don't want any more of them. (we've taken in a total of just 214 this year)

Feel utterly utterly ashamed to be British. :surrender:

Watched a debate about it on the Sikh Channel a few days ago. Caller after caller saying the same thing, i.e "they're not welcome here", "most of them are criminals anyway", "its not fair on us who have lived here all our life and worked so hard".

Felt utterly utterly ashamed that my fellow Sikhs wore the Sikh uniform but had still not understood the basic principles of our Gurus' message. :surrender:

The road to hell is paved with good intentions. So just the death of one child or should I say the photo of one dead child should mean that the UK should open the doors to anyone who can get across the Med? Children like the one in the photo die in their tens of thousands every day and yet this does not lead to any country changing its policies.

The child in question was already safe!!! He was not in Syria, he was in Turkey and his family wanted to emigrate to Canada and not stay in Turkey, No one begrudges anyone an opportunity to have a better life but when you put your child in danger in order to achieve a better life for yourselves then it is not the fault of the UK, or the west, it is solely the fault of the parents! I am surprised that none of the media has bought out this fact.

The Germans and Merkel may feel the warm glow of self satisfaction at having helped these refugees but by their actions they have just jeopardised the future of their country. Already Germany has major problems with Muslims and now they are willing to increase their population by another 15% per year and this is without any regard to the high birth rate of these people.

The refugee conventions states that a refugees needs to register in the first safe country that they can get to. So those Afghans amongst these refugees should have gone to Pakistan or Iran and register as refugees there. The UN spends millions of dollars on these refugees in Pakistan so why did they not go there if their lives are in danger. For the Syrian refugees the nearest safe country is Turkey. It is interesting that these refugees when they got to Hungary which is a safe country prevented the Hungarian authorities from registering them in Hungary because they would then, under the refugee conventions have to stay there and await their results of their claim for political asylum. As the Hungarian benefits for refugees are not as generous as the German ones these refugees did not want to be registered there. These refugees are very media savvy, as shown by the video where the man grabs his wife and child and forces them on to the railway track as they the police were placing them on trains to the refugee camps. The man knew that bleeding heart liberals like Jigsaw Singh would be beating their breasts and throwing ashes in their hair and being ashamed of being British or whatever nationality they have because of the way this man and his family was being treated. The fact was that this man was not happy that he would have to stay in Hungary and not get to Germany and it's generous payments for refugees.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-VVTQUQKaU

[JagsawSingh]

The man knew that bleeding heart liberals like Jigsaw Singh

Now that ^ is the nicest thing anyone's said to me in a long time. :yay:

Thank you. Feel very proud. I have a heart and it works. Couldn't ask for anything more.

[Ranjeet01]

The road to hell is paved with good intentions. So just the death of one child or should I say the photo of one dead child should mean that the UK should open the doors to anyone who can get across the Med? Children like the one in the photo die in their tens of thousands every day and yet this does not lead to any country changing its policies.

The child in question was already safe!!! He was not in Syria, he was in Turkey and his family wanted to emigrate to Canada and not stay in Turkey, No one begrudges anyone an opportunity to have a better life but when you put your child in danger in order to achieve a better life for yourselves then it is not the fault of the UK, or the west, it is solely the fault of the parents! I am surprised that none of the media has bought out this fact.

The Germans and Merkel may feel the warm glow of self satisfaction at having helped these refugees but by their actions they have just jeopardised the future of their country. Already Germany has major problems with Muslims and now they are willing to increase their population by another 15% per year and this is without any regard to the high birth rate of these people.

The refugee conventions states that a refugees needs to register in the first safe country that they can get to. So those Afghans amongst these refugees should have gone to Pakistan or Iran and register as refugees there. The UN spends millions of dollars on these refugees in Pakistan so why did they not go there if their lives are in danger. For the Syrian refugees the nearest safe country is Turkey. It is interesting that these refugees when they got to Hungary which is a safe country prevented the Hungarian authorities from registering them in Hungary because they would then, under the refugee conventions have to stay there and await their results of their claim for political asylum. As the Hungarian benefits for refugees are not as generous as the German ones these refugees did not want to be registered there. These refugees are very media savvy, as shown by the video where the man grabs his wife and child and forces them on to the railway track as they the police were placing them on trains to the refugee camps. The man knew that bleeding heart liberals like Jigsaw Singh would be beating their breasts and throwing ashes in their hair and being ashamed of being British or whatever nationality they have because of the way this man and his family was being treated. The fact was that this man was not happy that he would have to stay in Hungary and not get to Germany and it's generous payments for refugees.

A lot of the folk which are for the mass intake of large scale refugees/migrants (like the BBC metropolitan elite and people on the left side of British politics) do not tend to live in the areas where these migrants/refugees live in.

They do not have to compete with them for benefits or resources so they do not necessarily see the reality.

They do not have to live with large scale demographic increase of muslim migrants who will start to assert their entitlements.

Sweden is another country that has allowed large scale intake of muslim refugees and migrants with their generous welfare system and they are also having a lot of problems with their Muslim population.

The city of Malmo in Sweden is known as the rape capital of Europe because of all the gang rapes that happen there.

[Jonny101]

Proactive jee, poor old Germany will have to suffer the consequences of American mid east policies. Already Germans suffered economically when Americans forced the Germans to put economic sanctions on the Russians over Ukraine which Germans reluctantly did because they depend so much on Russian Oil and Gas.

In 50-60 years its very likely that nearly half of the German population will be Muslim. While I think they should help but 8 lakh is way too much for any country to take in. Maybe 1 or 2 lakh would make more sense. And this is just the start. If ISIS expands and attacks Jordan we can expect another huge wave of refugees heading for Germany after seeing how generious they were with the Syrian refugees. Laine Dhe Dhaine Pai JaaNge