All Talk But No Show

[MisterrSingh]

I've seen this and that's what I don't understand. Why do some people desperately want to be some sort of 'saintly' figure to others? To me that's a very lonely life. In terms of sikhi, I'd be more worried about what vaheguru thinks of me ;A;

I think a lot of issues come into play when a person aspires to that type of image without possessing the genuine substance behind it. Too many to mention, lol, but it's a mild form of mental illness IMO, or maybe it's plain old deviousness, or perhaps that individual set out with noble intentions but was corrupted along the way either by others or their own ambitions and motivations.

None of this would be possible if most of the followers who profess to be religious or spiritual weren't so gullible to allow such individuals to take a foothold in people's perceptions. There's a heck of a lot of enabling that goes on that allows such frauds to rise to prominence; these "saints and leaders" need a captive audience to survive, and when they receive that audience they realise they're "in." From there on in, it's just a matter of chipping away and working hard to elevate their name and standing to further increase their reach and impact on others. Sounds exhausting, lol.

But, as you correctly said, a sane minded person would only care what God thinks of us. That's why I think such people aren't sane; in fact they're the opposite of sane. It's just, somehow, under the protection of religion, they are given legitimacy.

[Singhni MiriPiri]

On 26/09/2015 at 8:45 AM, MisterrSingh said:

I think a lot of issues come into play when a person aspires to that type of image without possessing the genuine substance behind it. Too many to mention, lol, but it's a mild form of mental illness IMO, or maybe it's plain old deviousness, or perhaps that individual set out with noble intentions but was corrupted along the way either by others or their own ambitions and motivations.

None of this would be possible if most of the followers who profess to be religious or spiritual weren't so gullible to allow such individuals to take a foothold in people's perceptions. There's a heck of a lot of enabling that goes on that allows such frauds to rise to prominence; these "saints and leaders" need a captive audience to survive, and when they receive that audience they realise they're "in." From there on in, it's just a matter of chipping away and working hard to elevate their name and standing to further increase their reach and impact on others. Sounds exhausting, lol.

But, as you correctly said, a sane minded person would only care what God thinks of us. That's why I think such people aren't sane; in fact they're the opposite of sane. It's just, somehow, under the protection of religion, they are given legitimacy.

Thank you for explaining that. O_O

[MisterrSingh]

Thank you for explaining that. O_O

Haha, I wouldn't take my assessment of it as gospel. It's just something I keep my eye on for various reasons. It's fascinating to observe as those situations unfold before our eyes. Once you begin to understand human psychology and habits it all begins to make sense.

[simran345]

Bit off topic, @Singhnimiripiri penji how do you put those pics in the signature? Coz I'm trying and only the copy paste comes up.

[simran345]

I haven't got a negative or even mildly unfavourable thing to say about Jugraj Singh. I think he's arguably the only person in modern day Sikhi (in terms of the youngsters) who's trying to make a positive change through parchaar WITHOUT the strange hangers-on and ego massagers that usually surround such people when they get a bit prolific. He's a legend IMO.

My point, if I had one, lol, was a general observation from back when I was a kid about people who said a lot of things and behaved a heck of a lot differently behind closed doors compared to when they were around people. I should've made that clear.

Yes I like to put on his videos as they are in English and easy to understand, even for the layman. I like the way they are made with visuals.

To the bit about people behaving differently behind closed doors, I guess each soul has their weaknesses, I'd think the majority of people do that.

[MisterrSingh]

To the bit about people behaving differently behind closed doors, I guess each soul has their weaknesses, I'd think the majority of people do that.

I think you misunderstood me. We all behave differently to certain degrees when we're outside in the world compared to the privacy of our homes. That's just things to do with comfort levels and familiarity, etc.

My argument was in a religious context, I.E. a so-called spiritual figure preaching about honesty and integrity when in public, but when away from the gaze of the sangat he's performing dodgy business deals or hurting people in various ways. That isn't a soul being weak; that's being mindfully and willfully deceptive. That's what I was referring to.

[Singhni MiriPiri]

Bit off topic, @Singhnimiripiri penji how do you put those pics in the signature? Coz I'm trying and only the copy paste comes up.

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[Guest Jacfsing2]

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I would assume you used photobucket instead.

[Singhni MiriPiri]

I would assume you used photobucket instead.

I copy and paste the image url in image tags :D

[simran345]

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Thanku ji, now I can bling my profile lol...

Sorry for diverting the topic.