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Simran is remembrance and aching for God. Anyone can meditate, but only lovers are blessed enough to partake in simran.

Agreed Sikhs should do Simran meditation. The above is vipassana taught by Mr. Goenka. Sikhs should be aware of others but should focus on Simran. Just my opinion

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"As we decide to do Simran many questions come in mind. How to do Simran? When to do Simran? How is it different from meditations? Does it involve controlling the mind and so on?

Simran can be better understood if some aspects are compared with what is commonly known about meditation.

Meditation involves closing of eyes so as to shut the outward focus of senses and move within. In meditation either a mantra word is repeated to focus the mind and move towards stillness or thoughts are observed so as to go through the gaps between thoughts.

However the Simran can be done either with eyes closed or with open eyes. Simran also has a Guru mantra for focusing of the mind. This Guru mantra is a change or transformation agent. It enables us to have a state of mind with awareness having an inward point of origin."

http://naamaukhad.blogspot.co.uk/2011/08/41-sikh-meditations-jap-and-simran.html?m=1

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"Many of us, think, that devotion to the Lord consists of several outer activities.

You see, Wahiguru is One without second. He is like the powerful magnet who attracts us towards Himself.

But then, how does He attracts us? Or how do we get attracted to Him?

It is by His Simran alone.

That is why the Bani says: Prabh ka Simran, sabh te oochaa. There is nothing comparable to it. It is the highest devotion which one can offer it at His Lotus Feet..

All other activities, are mere shadows of mannmat, which lead us nowhere.

One may say, what is this ? Don´t you ever have anything else to say, apart from His Simran?

You are constantly hammering on Simran alone, in terms of devotion....

Well, it is not me, nor my personal opinion.

It is the very Bani, which insists so much. It is only, that we do what we see others do or say.

And that is not correct. We should pay attention with our eyes wide open, to only what the Bani says.

Following are the words of Dhan Dhan Satguru Sachay Patshah Arjun Dev Maharaj, where we can see by ourselves the supreme importance in doing the right type of bhakti.

He says:

ਆਠ ਪਹਰ ਪ੍ਰਭ ਕਾ ਜਪੁ ਜਾਪਿ

Ath Pehar Prabh Ka Japau Jaap

आठ पहर प्रभ का जपु जापि

Twenty-four hours a day, chant God's Chant.

He clearly says 24 hours .

You see, if the day had 25 or 26 hours, one could do 24 hours Simran, and the remaing time other karamkaands. But no, He says, do His Simran 24 hours.

Now we may ask, how to do 24 hours Simran?

The answer is : khaateh, peeteh, chalteh, phirteh, sovat, jaagat, visar na jaat ... premee sunoh prem kee baat.

Apart from this His constant Simran, we should try to sit for some time, and meditate on His Naam, so that our surtee soars up in the spiritual realms within, and savour the taste of Bliss, which cometh out of this His Simran."

http://www.sikhsangat.com/index.php?/topic/77812-bhakti/page-4

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Vicharana is also a form of meditation for Sikhs , a vital one to do daily. Writing gurbani is a form of simran meditation as we read, recite and vicharana all in one - so powerful. Simran is loving remembrance whether bani or mantar. Kirtan is the activation of naad Guru and loving Simran.

All I can say is the tools we have been given are so so powerful ...Wahe Wahe Waheguru jio

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I remember Harsharan paji explaining it in another post, which I agree with, (without disrespecting any religion )

As Sikhs one should do Simran of Waheguru, God alone.

" Gurmat is much much higher, rather I would say the highest or the only path to the eternal Truth, Wahiguru.

In Gurmat, we may do Simran of Wahiguru, just as other dharmas do of their deities, but the difference between Gurmat and other other dharmas, including brahmanvadee lies in that, their simran takes them at most to the heights of Swarg or Baikunth for example, while with the gurmanter we reach the Shabad Guru within, with whose guidance and wisdom, we then cross the region of maya or Braham, thus reach Parbraham, and then direct to Sach Khand, at the Lotus Feet of Wahiguru Akal Purukh.

Such is mahanta of Sikhee or Gurmat.

With the simran of lesser deities or trinity gods, we at most reach their abode, but never become one with them, because they are not the ultimate Reality.

While with the Gurmanter, we reach Sach Khand and merge in Him, and become Him.

That is why the bani says: Jevad aap, tevad Teree Daat. To those who meditate on Him, He gives Himself to them, nothing less, such a bountiful giver is Wahiguru."

http://www.sikhsangat.com/index.php?/topic/77812-bhakti/page-3

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"Many of us, think, that devotion to the Lord consists of several outer activities.

You see, Wahiguru is One without second. He is like the powerful magnet who attracts us towards Himself.

But then, how does He attracts us? Or how do we get attracted to Him?

It is by His Simran alone.

That is why the Bani says: Prabh ka Simran, sabh te oochaa. There is nothing comparable to it. It is the highest devotion which one can offer it at His Lotus Feet..

All other activities, are mere shadows of mannmat, which lead us nowhere.

One may say, what is this ? Don´t you ever have anything else to say, apart from His Simran?

You are constantly hammering on Simran alone, in terms of devotion....

Well, it is not me, nor my personal opinion.

It is the very Bani, which insists so much. It is only, that we do what we see others do or say.

And that is not correct. We should pay attention with our eyes wide open, to only what the Bani says.

Following are the words of Dhan Dhan Satguru Sachay Patshah Arjun Dev Maharaj, where we can see by ourselves the supreme importance in doing the right type of bhakti.

He says:

ਆਠ ਪਹਰ ਪ੍ਰਭ ਕਾ ਜਪੁ ਜਾਪਿ

Ath Pehar Prabh Ka Japau Jaap

आठ पहर प्रभ का जपु जापि

Twenty-four hours a day, chant God's Chant.

He clearly says 24 hours .

You see, if the day had 25 or 26 hours, one could do 24 hours Simran, and the remaing time other karamkaands. But no, He says, do His Simran 24 hours.

Now we may ask, how to do 24 hours Simran?

The answer is : khaateh, peeteh, chalteh, phirteh, sovat, jaagat, visar na jaat ... premee sunoh prem kee baat.

Apart from this His constant Simran, we should try to sit for some time, and meditate on His Naam, so that our surtee soars up in the spiritual realms within, and savour the taste of Bliss, which cometh out of this His Simran."

http://www.sikhsangat.com/index.php?/topic/77812-bhakti/page-4

swaas grass simran because we are only 'Hum aadmi haan ik daami' people of one breath...no guarantees of the next...

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Jkvlondon penji lovely shabad by Bhai Maninder Singh ji, complimenting the above post.

ਧਨਾਸਰੀ ਮਹਲਾ ੧ ॥

धनासरी महला १ ॥

Ḏẖanāsrī mėhlā 1.

Dhanasri 1st Guru.

ਹਮ ਆਦਮੀ ਹਾਂ ਇਕ ਦਮੀ ਮੁਹਲਤਿ ਮੁਹਤੁ ਨ ਜਾਣਾ ॥

हम आदमी हां इक दमी मुहलति मुहतु न जाणा ॥

Ham āḏmī hāʼn ik ḏamī muhlaṯ muhaṯ na jāṇā.

We are men of but one breath and know not the appointed time and moment of our departure.

ਨਾਨਕੁ ਬਿਨਵੈ ਤਿਸੈ ਸਰੇਵਹੁ ਜਾ ਕੇ ਜੀਅ ਪਰਾਣਾ ॥੧॥

नानकु बिनवै तिसै सरेवहु जा के जीअ पराणा ॥१॥

Nānak binvai ṯisai sarevhu jā ke jī▫a parāṇā. ||1||

Supplicates Nanak, serve thou Him to whom belong our soul and very life.

ਅੰਧੇ ਜੀਵਨਾ ਵੀਚਾਰਿ ਦੇਖਿ ਕੇਤੇ ਕੇ ਦਿਨਾ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥

अंधे जीवना वीचारि देखि केते के दिना ॥१॥ रहाउ ॥

Anḏẖe jīvnā vīcẖār ḏekẖ keṯe ke ḏinā. ||1|| rahā▫o.

O blind, consider and see how many days thy life shall last.

ਸਾਸੁ ਮਾਸੁ ਸਭੁ ਜੀਉ ਤੁਮਾਰਾ ਤੂ ਮੈ ਖਰਾ ਪਿਆਰਾ ॥

सासु मासु सभु जीउ तुमारा तू मै खरा पिआरा ॥

Sās mās sabẖ jī▫o ṯumārā ṯū mai kẖarā pi▫ārā.

O Lord, my breath, flesh and soul are all Thine and thou art very dear unto me.

ਨਾਨਕੁ ਸਾਇਰੁ ਏਵ ਕਹਤੁ ਹੈ ਸਚੇ ਪਰਵਦਗਾਰਾ ॥੨॥

नानकु साइरु एव कहतु है सचे परवदगारा ॥२॥

Nānak sā▫ir ev kahaṯ hai sacẖe parvaḏgārā. ||2||

Nanak, the poet, speaks, thus, O True Cherisher.

ਜੇ ਤੂ ਕਿਸੈ ਨ ਦੇਹੀ ਮੇਰੇ ਸਾਹਿਬਾ ਕਿਆ ਕੋ ਕਢੈ ਗਹਣਾ ॥

जे तू किसै न देही मेरे साहिबा किआ को कढै गहणा ॥

Je ṯū kisai na ḏehī mere sāhibā ki▫ā ko kadẖai gahṇā.

If Thou givest nothing to any man, k what can he pledge with Thee to receive Thy Bounties, O Lord?

ਨਾਨਕੁ ਬਿਨਵੈ ਸੋ ਕਿਛੁ ਪਾਈਐ ਪੁਰਬਿ ਲਿਖੇ ਕਾ ਲਹਣਾ ॥੩॥

नानकु बिनवै सो किछु पाईऐ पुरबि लिखे का लहणा ॥३॥

Nānak binvai so kicẖẖ pā▫ī▫ai purab likẖe kā lahṇā. ||3||

Prays Nanak, the mortal obtains just the thing, which he is predestined to receiver.

ਨਾਮੁ ਖਸਮ ਕਾ ਚਿਤਿ ਨ ਕੀਆ ਕਪਟੀ ਕਪਟੁ ਕਮਾਣਾ ॥

नामु खसम का चिति न कीआ कपटी कपटु कमाणा ॥

Nām kẖasam kā cẖiṯ na kī▫ā kaptī kapat kamāṇā.

Thou deceitful person remembers not the Lord's Name and practises deceit.

ਜਮ ਦੁਆਰਿ ਜਾ ਪਕੜਿ ਚਲਾਇਆ ਤਾ ਚਲਦਾ ਪਛੁਤਾਣਾ ॥੪॥

जम दुआरि जा पकड़ि चलाइआ ता चलदा पछुताणा ॥४॥

Jam ḏu▫ār jā pakaṛ cẖalā▫i▫ā ṯā cẖalḏā pacẖẖuṯāṇā. ||4||

When he is driven captive to death's door, then, whilst going he regrets his actions.

SGGS Ang 660

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