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Why Guru Sahibaan's Had Multiple Wives, Truth Or Made Up Stories !


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I don't think they have had those kinds of relations with wives (considering they have defeated KAAM krodh moh lobh ahankar etc).. Many mahapurukhs bless their wives/women with a child by putting their hand on their stomach.

Which Mahapursh?

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Like Sri Krishna ji, Gorakhnath ji, and many other people blessed children vardans on people without obvious physical relations. I am sure that some of our Sri Guru jis have also blessed devotees with wishes like these too.

Which Gurus? Can you give evidence instead of just saying you are sure.

Do you know about when Guru Tegh Bahadur Ji was asked to perform miracles, what did they do?

Do you also know Guruji says performing miracles takes one away from the path of God?

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Simran ji, those children vardans that were given to those unfertile couples was because our Sri Guru Sahibs were pleased with their difficult seva and asked them for any wishes they'd like. Sri Guru Tegh Bahadur did not show miracles to those people asking to see miracles because those people did not have sharda or any faith for our religion, they did not practice or even do seva for our religion, those people wanted to see a tamasha which is not Gurmatt, and that is why our Sri Guru Sahibs did not preform those dikhavas. When our Sri Guru Sahib(s) gave child vardhans, they gave it to their devotees of Sri Vaheguru who did seva, and when seva is accepted our Sri Guru Sahib asked what the people who did seva wanted. Do you understand what I am saying ji..?

No I don't understand what you are saying.

Which people are you talking about? Can you give an example please.

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Okay, I will try my best:

Sri Guru Tegh Bahadur Sahib ji refused to show miracles to those people who asked because those people wanted to see a tamasha and they were not believing in Sikhi in any way, they did no seva and just wanted our Sri Guru ji to show a dikhava, to show off. Our Sri Guru ji refused to show miracles because it is against Gurmatt to make a dikhava or tamashas because it helps nobody.

Some people did seva for some of our Sri Guru jis and our Sri Guru ji was happy with their seva towards Sikhi + Sri Vaheguru, so our Sri Guru jis asked for their wish and they asked for a child vardhan because those sevaks were not fertile. Do you see what I am saying now..? When a sevak of our Sri Guru ji pleases our Sri Guru ji then they are rewarded with a wish if they practice our dharm with a satcha soul.

Those people who want to see miracles were rejected because our religion is not about dikhava of powers, our religion is about devotion towards God and not to impress anyone.

Who some people, I would like to know who?? Can you give a link or article where it shows that? I want to see the evidence. Any sakhis?

No I don't understand, obviously otherwise I wouldn't be asking would I.

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http://www.sikhiwiki.org/index.php/Mai_Sulakhani_Ji

^example of children vardhans from our Sri Guru Sahib.

Thankuji for the link.

The reason I asked for a link so people can see it themselves. It's no good is saying this this and this when we don't give examples either.

Do you understand ?

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So basically now Our Resident brahmgyani here claims to know what our Guru Sahib did and the sort of relationship they had with their Wives. There's no evidence to substantiate any of her claims, other than the fact that what she claims must be true because she is infallible. KAAM is obsession with sex or anything. Sex isn't "evil", children aren't conceived due to "evil/sin" it's a natural biological process, in fact arousal can occur without lustful thoughts, there's plenty of scientific research on this, not that it means anything to her as It's all "false" since it conflicts with her twisted version of stories. The amount of sin in sex is the same as going to the toilet.

ON topic.

There's way too speculation about how many wives certain Guru Sahib had, Historical dates and names being mixed up are a massive cause of this. I did remember seeing an old extract from a book from the 1700s, just a couple of decades after Guru Sahib's departure, the mention was of Mata Sahib Kaur and Mata Sundri Ji, no mention of Mata Jito Ji. Though the text did get the date of Guru Gobind Singh Ji's departure as being incorrect so you could cast doubts on that.

Even Macleod mentioned that Mata jito/Mata Sundri may have been the same thing. The fact remains there's too much distortion going on, Guru Gobind Singh Ji was extremely popular with non-sikhs along with Sikhs. His opposition could easily have tried to tamper and try to shed negative light on his character

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Tampering with our rich SIKH history did not just happen during our gurus times but up until this day TODAY and will continue to happen.

Our historical texts, documented scripts are all being destroyed, youth are being manipulated, MULTIPLE HISTORICAL texts are being created to cause confusion within the panth.


THINK EVERYONE.... if you read this discussion thread from the beginning, one has said 1 wife, other has said 3 wives, next has said 5... what next 7? Or will we eventually wrongfully declare in the near future that Guru Nanak Dev Jee had multiple wives with kids?!?


Our history has been tampered with since the days of the mughals to this present day!

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Reply to OP,

Singhbj

Let's say for arguments sake that Dasmesh Pita had more than one wife.... the Guru is perfect, why question their actions, decisions?

The Guru's are not like us Moorkhs, subject to Kaam, Krod, Lob, Moh and Hunkar, so they didn't marry out of Lust.

The Guru's, I understand, married more than 1 wife out of a. Seva (to the Panth, and Humanity) and b. out of Daya (compassion) marrying more than one wife out of compassion. For normal Sikh isn't not allowed (as a rule of thumb) But the Gurus? Come on mate, their God themselves!!! Everything they did was perfect / pure, complete.

My 2 cents. All the best.

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Guest mughals+pandits

Mughals and Pandits made up the multiple wives stories.

Edit Niddar Nangs and Dear Jhoota Sauda promote these lies.

Its our job as Sikhs not to believe these anti-Sikh lies which claim multiple wives when Gurmat and Gurbani clear that marriages are between one male and one female

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Like Sri Krishna ji, Gorakhnath ji, and many other people blessed children vardans on people without obvious physical relations. I am sure that some of our Sri Guru jis have also blessed devotees with wishes like these too.

? Do you believe other religious leaders are equal to Guru Sahib himself? Jesus, Muhammad, Gurbachana, Ram Rahim, or many others?
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Reply to OP,

Singhbj

Let's say for arguments sake that Dasmesh Pita had more than one wife.... the Guru is perfect, why question their actions, decisions?

The Guru's are not like us Moorkhs, subject to Kaam, Krod, Lob, Moh and Hunkar, so they didn't marry out of Lust.

The Guru's, I understand, married more than 1 wife out of a. Seva (to the Panth, and Humanity) and b. out of Daya (compassion) marrying more than one wife out of compassion. For normal Sikh isn't not allowed (as a rule of thumb) But the Gurus? Come on mate, their God themselves!!! Everything they did was perfect / pure, complete.

My 2 cents. All the best.

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