Is Khalistan Needed

[TyrionLanister]

til the day i die u little apologist, india is going into dark ages and the world is watching, we dont need to live under caste rule.

Hindu, Sikhs are united and we will fight all those who try to disrupt peace in Punjab

[pardesanbibbi]

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[JasSinghKhalsa]

Khalistan is supposed to be a land ruled by KHALSA as per Guru Gobind Singh Jee's KHALSA principles of equality, principles of LOVE towards all and NOT HATRED.

The current state of Punjab even if becomes Khalistan - can we say it will be ruled as per principles of KHALSA - principles of equality, principles of LOVE and NOT HATRED.

In Punjab, Sikhs belonging to Ramgharia, Mazhabi, Khatri (Arora), Afghani Sikhs are teased with HATRED; not allowed in JATT controlled Gurudwars.

Is this sort of KHALISTAN we are aiming for - Is this going to be more of a JATT-STHAN rather than Khalistan - where there will more Jatts becoming new Guru's like Radha Swami and Raam Rahim Satguru's from Jatt clans, where there will be Maan's fighting Dhillon's (Badal's) etc. spreading HATRED throughout.

[mrggg123]

Hindu, Sikhs are united and we will fight all those who try to disrupt peace in Punjab

yh ask those sikhs without police and fear and youll get your real answer. Sikhs and hindus are united but we dislike ur government who say we are hindus. So khalistan for sikhs and hindus who chose fair rule. the peace is being disrupted by your followers.

[kazimakazima]

Khalistan is supposed to be a land ruled by KHALSA as per Guru Gobind Singh Jee's KHALSA principles of equality, principles of LOVE towards all and NOT HATRED.

The current state of Punjab even if becomes Khalistan - can we say it will be ruled as per principles of KHALSA - principles of equality, principles of LOVE and NOT HATRED.

In Punjab, Sikhs belonging to Ramgharia, Mazhabi, Khatri (Arora), Afghani Sikhs are teased with HATRED; not allowed in JATT controlled Gurudwars.

Is this sort of KHALISTAN we are aiming for - Is this going to be more of a JATT-STHAN rather than Khalistan - where there will more Jatts becoming new Guru's like Radha Swami and Raam Rahim Satguru's from Jatt clans, where there will be Maan's fighting Dhillon's (Badal's) etc. spreading HATRED throughout.

How can you say this? Do 'JATT' controlled gurdwaras have a notice hanging outside their (main) entrance door which says only jatts are allowed? You are so obsessed with the castes. Go to all the gurdwaras, no gurdwaras prohibit anyone from visiting. Rise above the caste system. Teach yourself how to get on with everyone.

[JasSinghKhalsa]

How can you say this? Do 'JATT' controlled gurdwaras have a notice hanging outside their (main) entrance door which says only jatts are allowed? You are so obsessed with the castes. Go to all the gurdwaras, no gurdwaras prohibit anyone from visiting. Rise above the caste system. Teach yourself how to get on with everyone.

See the video below and several others on Youtube and accept reality if you can ...

Also, I have met a lot of Afghani, Ramgharia Sikh groups in Southall, Birmingham and have evidences for the same reason why there are so many Gurudawars based on caste, earlier one of those controlled by JATTS, who didn't even allowed non-JATTS to do PAATH.

It is not that there is a TAKHTI saying people from other castes not allowed, it is such as non-JATTs won't be allowed doing Sewa in Langar, reciting Paath during Sukhmani Sahib Paath etc. That's the reason Afghani Gurudwara was opened in Southall, thats the reason Ramgharia and Ravidaasia Gurudwaras were opened in Southall.

Even today, Sikh Channel telecasting Akhand Paath Sahib from Sri Nankana Sahib Pakistan is scrolling only JATT family names, all rest SEWA is scrolling as GUPT SEWA. I have spoken to several Afghani and Ramgharia families who had their contribution towards this SEWA (who although were not particular about their names coming on the scroll bar) but were surprised that it was deliberately hidden and only GILL, SANDHU, GREWAL, SANGHA, DEOL, DHALIWAL, SANGHERA surnames etc. were being scrolled ... These Afghani and Ramgharia families came back to me and said "Guru Sahib knows that our SEWA is accepted, but I could see the hidden racial discrimination these people are facing".

I am with you to raise above caste but there is a problem somewhere which is not getting fixed. As a Sikh who has taken Guru's Amrit and become KHALSA, I am really p**sed off ..

[goggy]

"As a Sikh who has taken Guru's Amrit and become KHALSA, I am really p**sed off ..

Why are you 'p..sed off?' You are a Khalsa in the eyes of Guru ji. What are you looking for?

[Jonny101]

Majority of Punjabi Sikhs dont want Khalistan. Religion is used by crooked leader to hide behind their failures. Akali dal, BJP have habit of misusing religion. By the numbers, Akali BJP alliance is the worst state govt among BJP ruled states

(Maharahstra is doing very good under fadnavis, Jharkhand is seeing some changes . Rajasthan, MP have improved, Gujarat was always good, C'garh is fine despite naxal problem, Harayana is city state.) Punjab is run by the family.

BJP have no chance but to support akali. Akali are safest choice to handle any Khalistani separatism which are being stroked by some delusional Sikhs who are being propped up by Pakistani handlers!

Akali govt is big nautanki. I am still confused about this beadbi episode. Some say that It was stroked by AAP, Congress. Some blame Akali while agency are looking for Pak hand.

At present Modi is the only BJP leader after vajpaye who is extremely dedicated to motherland. He believes in India first. So there is no discrimination among any state. Bad law & order situation is affecting FDI in Punjab.

Punjab needs industries, jobs, modern cultivation technology, FDI, education, law & order, end of drugs culture. No religious govt can fix these problems. 2 % of Indian population is Sikhs but they are 14% in Indian military, 5+% in Foreign service, 7-8 % in bureaucracy.6-7% business and industries. why do we want to mix state with religion. We should learn from Israel which is a democratic secular country but promotes native religion. Similarly, we should only promote Indic religions in our country which are compatible with our values, Rise of Abraham faith especially Islam will turn India to Pakistan and Arab. No body is stopping Sikhs to propagate their faith across India. People of Bihar, UP will become more productive if they choose sikhism over hiinduism.

Terrorism in North east India is driven by christian groups: NSCN(K) while naxalites in forest region of jharkhand, orissa and chattisgarh are converted christian who follow communist ideology.

Khalistan movement is not a movement which was started by Pakistan. It was the policies of the central government towards the Sikhs which resulted in the demand for Khalistan. Operating bluestar laid the foundation of Khalistan. Indira Gandhi was a so called secularist. Why did she attack Harmandir Sahib? The answer is because she did not want to lose Hindu votes in North India to the bjp who were pressuring her to attack because if she didn't then the next elections congress would have lost badly to Hindu nationalists under Vajpayee. Instead of blaming Sikhs and ISI for the Khalistan movement you have your own Hindu nationalists to blame for this.

Since 1984 the panthic agenda is clear that Khalistan is the political goal of the Sikhs. The armed movement was brutally suppressed in the 90s but the goal still remains. Circumstances do not remain the same forever. Powerful countries such as the Soviet Union(super power) and Yugoslavia did not remain and eventually broke apart. Present Union of India is the an artificial creation of the British. Historically land of Bharat has aways been split into kingdoms big and small and regions much like Europe. Read ramayan or Mahabharata how India was divided between kingdoms who co existed with each other yet remained independent of one another and this was when India was in its full glory. Its only the Muslim invaders and later the British who forced the whole continent of Bharat to become a single country.

Hindus committed a great sin by conducting operation bluestar at Sri Harmandir Sahib. It's amritmayee srovar was filled with blood. Sikhs had never seen such destruction since the afghans under abdali attacked Harmandir Sahib. Even partition in which more Sikhs were killed is not as painful since at least the Muslims were not able to attack and destroy Harmandir Sahib.

Such bad karma by Hindus will eventually result in total collapse in the current Hindu Raaj which otherwise might have lasted a long time. Muslims of South Asia(Indo-Pak-Bangla-Afghan) are ever itching for a massive clash with Hindus. It is in their religious ideology to oppose and wage war with Hindus. Whether Hindus will be able to win remains to be seen.

[OnieFaltoo]

See the video below and several others on Youtube and accept reality if you can ...

Also, I have met a lot of Afghani, Ramgharia Sikh groups in Southall, Birmingham and have evidences for the same reason why there are so many Gurudawars based on caste, earlier one of those controlled by JATTS, who didn't even allowed non-JATTS to do PAATH.

It is not that there is a TAKHTI saying people from other castes not allowed, it is such as non-JATTs won't be allowed doing Sewa in Langar, reciting Paath during Sukhmani Sahib Paath etc. That's the reason Afghani Gurudwara was opened in Southall, thats the reason Ramgharia and Ravidaasia Gurudwaras were opened in Southall.

Even today, Sikh Channel telecasting Akhand Paath Sahib from Sri Nankana Sahib Pakistan is scrolling only JATT family names, all rest SEWA is scrolling as GUPT SEWA. I have spoken to several Afghani and Ramgharia families who had their contribution towards this SEWA (who although were not particular about their names coming on the scroll bar) but were surprised that it was deliberately hidden and only GILL, SANDHU, GREWAL, SANGHA, DEOL, DHALIWAL, SANGHERA surnames etc. were being scrolled ... These Afghani and Ramgharia families came back to me and said "Guru Sahib knows that our SEWA is accepted, but I could see the hidden racial discrimination these people are facing".

I am with you to raise above caste but there is a problem somewhere which is not getting fixed. As a Sikh who has taken Guru's Amrit and become KHALSA, I am really p**sed off ..

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[khalsaman1]

Hypothetical question.

Let's say Congress had accepted the Anandpur Resolution. How does this alter history?