Jagraj Singh Responds To Muslims @ Hyde Park Corner

[Ranjeet01]

Thing about the Dawa guys is that while others are there to listen and learn something new but the dawa guys are there to argue and disprove their opponents which they try to do with Bhai Jagraj Singh but fail to do everytime. Even Godless atheists were on the side of Jagraj Singh.

These salafist dawa types try to act very "logical" using your own scripture against you. They do this with Christians everytime. At first Christians had no answer to this since they did not know much about Quran Hadiths or about Prophet Muhammad. But now they are catching up with people like David Wood who beats Muslims in debates including scholars like Shabir Ally.

This type of Dawaist debate is done out of a sense of perceived superiority complex but the underlying reason is they have a lot of insecurities.

They are quite frightened to listen in case it makes them doubt their own beliefs which I know they do at a subconscious level.

We saw this with the rhetorical devices Dawa man in his debate with Jagraj Singh. The minute Jagraj gets his point across, the Dawah man gets gripped into it before he had to snap himself out of it.

I always get the feeling they are trying to convince themselves more than anyone else.

Though this is a very interesting exercise for any Parcharik to see how Dawaists talk, how they react, how they question, their body language etc.

[sikhni777]

The only thing that saddens me is that they still think all non-Christians are going to hell.

What is even more sad is that their religion is all a copy of Christianity. Muhammed was not religious until he heard Christian traders talking about Christianity.

So many of their things are copied from Christianity.

This includes the main verse which says God blessed them and said to them, "Be fruitful and increase in number; fill the earth and subdue it. (Genesis 1:28)

Rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky and over every living creature that moves on the ground."

However they are not capable of doing what follows that first line. The first line is possible through physical activity.

The second is only possible through spiritual activity and total devotion to God. I remember a shabad which goes like Raja sagli shrish ka. Har naam mun bheena.

This talks about a King who went to do some bhagti in the forest. He realised God.

When someone dropped their needle in the water and could not find it - the king requested a fish to go and fetch it. That is when this shabad was said. It generally means that the king became the ruler of the whole world. No one had respect for him as in as a King. ( you know all the respect we gives to Kings and people in high posts). However he was ruling the world.

God or his bhagti or anything else for that matter is not attainable through mere words. You got to get working towards it. If you want a fit body then go body building. If you want to go to heaven - then LISTEN to the word of God - not debate and put others down.

[chatanga]

He is such a knowledgable person and admirable too.

Where are our own youngsters who should be crowding around him to listen and question Sikhism and try to understand better.

Its a shame on us that the preacher of our religion is having to go through this because of us. We are not interested in our own religion.

Jagraj Singh and/or Basics of Sikhi are not going to change everything by themselves. They are truly an inspiration to many including myself, but the bottom line is that we all have to become active like Jagraj Singh has in order to educate the younger Sikhs.

We all have a part to play, but from what I have seen and experienced from younger Sikhs aged around 20-40, there is no desire there to do anything, and if there is, then it's only in small numbers which has little or no effect.

[InderjitS]

[superkaur]

Ever noticed that Jagraj's highest youtube views, comments and subscribers come when he talks to muslims in his his videos.

He should be targeting the lost generation sheeps who are punjabi by name or sikh heritage but are actually atheists by lifestyle because maybe they got in with the wrong crowd growing up or never got taught sikhi the right way or at all at home.

All these muslim confronting videos are basically a marketting ploy to get more ad revenue. Since muslims outnumber Sikhs demographically they would be more interested in watching and hence contributing to the viewing figures. Whereas for a muslim looking for views to go for sikh topics would be a non-starter because there is not much interest there from muslims. It would make more sense for muslim to discuss hindu issues because there are 1 billion hindus in the world and hence more viewers.

Dawahman aka dawah kid also uses this tactic but he goes after famous people or strange or intimate topics that disgust and shock people so that he knows more people will watch and in return he will get more money from number of ads clicked.

[Ranjeet01]

How does one talk to people who are not willing to listen?

How does one discuss concepts which expand your mind with metaphors with folk that only really know rote learning?

The black guy (formally baptist) has that evangelical style of questioning, you can see it in his delivery, body language etc.

The short fellow just being facetious.

Again it is an interesting study of Dawaist body language, type of speech, tone of voice etc etc.

Jagraj has adapted his body language somewhat, he's had to behave more alpha male. It's what you do with Muslims because they only respect strength.

[StarStriker]

Ever noticed that Jagraj's highest youtube views, comments and subscribers come when he talks to muslims in his his videos.

He should be targeting the lost generation sheeps who are punjabi by name or sikh heritage but are actually atheists by lifestyle because maybe they got in with the wrong crowd growing up or never got taught sikhi the right way or at all at home.

All these muslim confronting videos are basically a marketting ploy to get more ad revenue. Since muslims outnumber Sikhs demographically they would be more interested in watching and hence contributing to the viewing figures. Whereas for a muslim looking for views to go for sikh topics would be a non-starter because there is not much interest there from muslims. It would make more sense for muslim to discuss hindu issues because there are 1 billion hindus in the world and hence more viewers.

Dawahman aka dawah kid also uses this tactic but he goes after famous people or strange or intimate topics that disgust and shock people so that he knows more people will watch and in return he will get more money from number of ads clicked.

Your talking complete nonsense here, so much so, i dont know where to start. All muslim related videos r a marketing ploy? Really, so can u explain, WHY every1 of those muslim debate videos r started by the muslims themselves? The dawahman debate was started by dawahman himself in hounslow, while the BoS guys were doing street parchar, and he got his arse tanned. The hyde park videos, again r instigated by these muslims comin over, tryna b all clever, n leaving with red faces, wit their carefully planned tactics. If ppl r challenging jagraj, wat do u want him to do? Also by releasing these videos, and watching jagraj defeat their arguments, we r all learning wat tactics/arguments they r using and more importantly, HOW TO COUNTER THEM! Think of all those ppl who have been tricked into islam by these dawah kanjars, who, had they watched these arguments wud never have left dharam. Also, just look at the comments section of all these videos, their r countless muslims/ex muslims who r saying that they r more interested in sikhi now, having seen these vids n been educated.

Also u mention he gets more money/revenue from ad-clicks....erm no he doesnt, have u noticed 1 single advert that pops up wen u watch a BoS video on youtube?....No exactly, so how can they be receiving money from it? I have a youtube account n upload videos too, and it gives u an option of monetary gain, by allowing adverts to come up wen video starts, but im not interested in that.

This is the same organisation, that does NOT charge a single penny for parchar/kirtan anywhere in the world, only live off donations, which they revealed the figures of, in their recent vids.

Stop with ur nonsense.

[simran345]

Your talking complete nonsense here, so much so, i dont know where to start. All muslim related videos r a marketing ploy? Really, so can u explain, WHY every1 of those muslim debate videos r started by the muslims themselves? The dawahman debate was started by dawahman himself in hounslow, while the BoS guys were doing street parchar, and he got his arse tanned. The hyde park videos, again r instigated by these muslims comin over, tryna b all clever, n leaving with red faces, wit their carefully planned tactics. If ppl r challenging jagraj, wat do u want him to do? Also by releasing these videos, and watching jagraj defeat their arguments, we r all learning wat tactics/arguments they r using and more importantly, HOW TO COUNTER THEM! Think of all those ppl who have been tricked into islam by these dawah kanjars, who, had they watched these arguments wud never have left dharam. Also, just look at the comments section of all these videos, their r countless muslims/ex muslims who r saying that they r more interested in sikhi now, having seen these vids n been educated.

Also u mention he gets more money/revenue from ad-clicks....erm no he doesnt, have u noticed 1 single advert that pops up wen u watch a BoS video on youtube?....No exactly, so how can they be receiving money from it? I have a youtube account n upload videos too, and it gives u an option of monetary gain, by allowing adverts to come up wen video starts, but im not interested in that.

This is the same organisation, that does NOT charge a single penny for parchar/kirtan anywhere in the world, only live off donations, which they revealed the figures of, in their recent vids.

Stop with ur nonsense.

I have to agree with Starstriker ji on this too.

Jagraj Singh gave up his job and social life to put all his devotion into doing Sikhi parchar.

If he wanted to make money, he would have carried on working. Him and his wife are doing a great job and educating the likes of us.

If it wasn't for him, I wouldn't know anything at all about Sikhi.

I'm not saying it because I know him, because I don't and I've never met him. But this guy is really something the world needs for education and awareness on Sikhi nowadays. Not only here but in other countries too.

He's done well and will carry on with Waheguru's Grace.

There's enough people trying to stop Sikhi and we don't need our own Sikhs putting him down over what? A few likes on his videos ?

Media is the way forward for Sikhi parchar. He handles every question so well. Every time somebody try's to belittle Sikhi, he deals with it so well and gracefully. And is not afraid to defend Sikhi, so well done to him.

[StarStriker]

I have to agree with Starstriker ji on this too.

Jagraj Singh gave up his job and social life to put all his devotion into doing Sikhi parchar.

If he wanted to make money, he would have carried on working. Him and his wife are doing a great job and educating the likes of us.

If it wasn't for him, I wouldn't know anything at all about Sikhi.

I'm not saying it because I know him, because I don't and I've never met him. But this guy is really something the world needs for education and awareness on Sikhi nowadays. Not only here but in other countries too.

He's done well and will carry on with Waheguru's Grace.

There's enough people trying to stop Sikhi and we don't need our own Sikhs putting him down over what? A few likes on his videos ?

Media is the way forward for Sikhi parchar. He handles every question so well. Every time somebody try's to belittle Sikhi, he deals with it so well and gracefully. And is not afraid to defend Sikhi, so well done to him.

Couldnt agree more, ive watched his videos, from the time when he had like 30 subscribers to his channel, n i was 1 of them. Ive learnt more in last 3yrs watching his channel than i have from goin gurdwara for 25+yrs! He along with the other sevadars of BoS r changing lives and changing ppls perception of wat sikhi is.

[Jonny101]

the short guy was so aggressive. Must be a case of Napoleon complex