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This sikh is not a sikh also, he must be a white racist that put on turban and fake beard and colored his skin brown right Jacfsingh2MuslimsforTrump.png

http://www.wnd.com/2016/03/muslims-sikhs-rally-in-support-of-trump/

Nope, he's not a Sikh in my view, (I really want to know where this guy Chacked Amrit). I believe in the Gurbani version of who a Sikh is! "ਮਃ ੪ ॥ मः ४ ॥ Mėhlā 4. Fourth Mehl:

ਗੁਰ ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਕਾ ਜੋ ਸਿਖੁ ਅਖਾਏ ਸੁ ਭਲਕੇ ਉਠਿ ਹਰਿ ਨਾਮੁ ਧਿਆਵੈ ॥ गुर सतिगुर का जो सिखु अखाए सु भलके उठि हरि नामु धिआवै ॥ Gur saṯgur kā jo sikẖ akẖā▫e so bẖalke uṯẖ har nām ḏẖi▫āvai. One who calls himself a Sikh of the Guru, the True Guru, shall rise in the early morning hours and meditate on the Lord's Name.

ਉਦਮੁ ਕਰੇ ਭਲਕੇ ਪਰਭਾਤੀ ਇਸਨਾਨੁ ਕਰੇ ਅੰਮ੍ਰਿਤ ਸਰਿ ਨਾਵੈ ॥ उदमु करे भलके परभाती इसनानु करे अम्रित सरि नावै ॥ Uḏam kare bẖalke parbẖāṯī isnān kare amriṯ sar nāvai. Upon arising early in the morning, he is to bathe, and cleanse himself in the pool of nectar.

ਉਪਦੇਸਿ ਗੁਰੂ ਹਰਿ ਹਰਿ ਜਪੁ ਜਾਪੈ ਸਭਿ ਕਿਲਵਿਖ ਪਾਪ ਦੋਖ ਲਹਿ ਜਾਵੈ ॥ उपदेसि गुरू हरि हरि जपु जापै सभि किलविख पाप दोख लहि जावै ॥ Upḏes gurū har har jap jāpai sabẖ kilvikẖ pāp ḏokẖ lėh jāvai. Following the Instructions of the Guru, he is to chant the Name of the Lord, Har, Har. All sins, misdeeds and negativity shall be erased.

ਫਿਰਿ ਚੜੈ ਦਿਵਸੁ ਗੁਰਬਾਣੀ ਗਾਵੈ ਬਹਦਿਆ ਉਠਦਿਆ ਹਰਿ ਨਾਮੁ ਧਿਆਵੈ ॥ फिरि चड़ै दिवसु गुरबाणी गावै बहदिआ उठदिआ हरि नामु धिआवै ॥ Fir cẖaṛai ḏivas gurbāṇī gāvai bahḏi▫ā uṯẖ▫ḏi▫ā har nām ḏẖi▫āvai. Then, at the rising of the sun, he is to sing Gurbani; whether sitting down or standing up, he is to meditate on the Lord's Name." (Ang 305 of Dhan Dhan Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji). If you ask me if Badal is a Sikh the answer is still No! Wearing a turban and having a beard doesn't make you a Sikh.

@TheSoldier we know you don't believe in Gurbani, just be a troll on some Christian or Atheist forum because we both know you don't really believe that Dhan Dhan Sri Guru Nanak Dev Ji is the only truth!

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We're not in Donald Trump's America(yet). Trump hasn't said or done anything against us either. When he said "one of those hats", he was referring to his "Make America Great Again" hat.

This was already discussed on this site and it was proven through Trump's own words that he was referring to the turban as a dirty hat, which a Muslim would wear (Trump didn't know the person was a Sikh). In a different thread this was all presented by me. I will present the proof here as well:

Word for word is what Trump said:

"He wasn't wearing one of those hats. was he? Was he wearing one of those? And he never will...and he never will....and he never will....and that's okay, but you know we gotta do something folks, cuz its not working. And all over the world they are talking about it. And people..frankly I have friends who are Muslims and they call me up. Not all of them!! But some of them and they say you are doing a great service because there is tremendous hatred"

Here is the whole speech, where Trump calls the dastar a hat and mistakes the Sikh for a Muslim. Start watching from 17:00 minutes and watch up to 22:00 minutes. Closer to 20:20 minutes Trump refers to the hat again and says, "they would not be looking for the dirty hat, believe me, they would not be looking for the guy with the dirty hat, they would not be looking for long" Then he goes and says dirty hat couple of more times.

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Let's get this straight. This happened in Fresno, California which is 'lib central' and somehow this is Trump's fault? Wow! Are lunatics running the asylum? Are you aware that California is largely a liberal bastion and conservatives are a minority there?

This was already discussed on this site and it was proven through Trump's own words that he was referring to the turban as a dirty hat, which a Muslim would wear (Trump didn't know the person was a Sikh). In a different thread this was all presented by me. I will present the proof here as well:

Word for word is what Trump said:

"He wasn't wearing one of those hats. was he? Was he wearing one of those? And he never will...and he never will....and he never will....and that's okay, but you know we gotta do something folks, cuz its not working. And all over the world they are talking about it. And people..frankly I have friends who are Muslims and they call me up. Not all of them!! But some of them and they say you are doing a great service because there is tremendous hatred"

Here is the whole speech, where Trump calls the dastar a hat and mistakes the Sikh for a Muslim. Start watching from 17:00 minutes and watch up to 22:00 minutes. Closer to 20:20 minutes Trump refers to the hat again and says, "they would not be looking for the dirty hat, believe me, they would not be looking for the guy with the dirty hat, they would not be looking for long" Then he goes and says dirty hat couple of more times.

Please also educate us all and tell us this Sikhs 'stellar' behavior at Trumps rally.

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This was already discussed on this site and it was proven through Trump's own words that he was referring to the turban as a dirty hat, which a Muslim would wear (Trump didn't know the person was a Sikh). In a different thread this was all presented by me. I will present the proof here as well:

Word for word is what Trump said:

"He wasn't wearing one of those hats. was he? Was he wearing one of those? And he never will...and he never will....and he never will....and that's okay, but you know we gotta do something folks, cuz its not working. And all over the world they are talking about it. And people..frankly I have friends who are Muslims and they call me up. Not all of them!! But some of them and they say you are doing a great service because there is tremendous hatred"

Here is the whole speech, where Trump calls the dastar a hat and mistakes the Sikh for a Muslim. Start watching from 17:00 minutes and watch up to 22:00 minutes. Closer to 20:20 minutes Trump refers to the hat again and says, "they would not be looking for the dirty hat, believe me, they would not be looking for the guy with the dirty hat, they would not be looking for long" Then he goes and says dirty hat couple of more times.

I Just saw the speech by Sir Donald Trump and guess what you are wrong

He was refering to the paris mastermind with the dirty hat. Dont try to mix what Trump said about the sikh guy with an islamist terrorist with the dirty hat.

Start listening to the video from here, where he is talking about the islamist terroist of paris https://youtu.be/ilXemS3cwL0?t=20m3s

Images of the islamist terrorist that Trump is referring to the dirty hat. Not to be confused with the sikh protester. Trump said regarding the sikh protestor that he would never wear one of his hats, the ones with "make america great again". Trump is not anti-sikh,

picture links, of trump referring to the islamist with the dirty hat

http://goo.gl/n36byh

http://goo.gl/q2cDdU

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Lol Muslim folk sure know how to rile up Punjabis for their agenda to use.

I'm not buying it for a second.

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Lol Muslim folk sure know how to rile up Punjabis for their agenda to use.I'm not buying it for a second.

This has less to do with Muslims than it has to do with the serious problems facing America and some British folks being trolls on the negative perspective for America. Also it has to do with the new really really mentally r*tarded false Sikhs supporting a man like Trump, (again they aren't American).

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I Just saw the speech by Sir Donald Trump and guess what you are wrong

He was refering to the paris mastermind with the dirty hat. Dont try to mix what Trump said about the sikh guy with an islamist terrorist with the dirty hat.

Start listening to the video from here, where he is talking about the islamist terroist of paris https://youtu.be/ilXemS3cwL0?t=20m3s

Images of the islamist terrorist that Trump is referring to the dirty hat. Not to be confused with the sikh protester. Trump said regarding the sikh protestor that he would never wear one of his hats, the ones with "make america great again". Trump is not anti-sikh,

picture links, of trump referring to the islamist with the dirty hat

http://goo.gl/n36byh

http://goo.gl/q2cDdU

It's very clear from the whole speech Trump confused the Sikh man protesting for a Muslim. Trump was speaking about 9/11 at the time of the Sikh man started protesting. Here is a clip showing the Sikh man protesting.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WelUUU9VcZg

After the protest Trump makes the comment of the man never wearing the "hat" again and they need to do something about them (Muslims). It is very clear from the video the Sikh man was wearing a turban and not a hat for Trumps campaign. And trump calls it a hat to disrespect the man, which he thought was a Muslim.

Let's look at his other comments. A Sikh will never support a person who says kill the terrorist family, but here is a clip of Trump saying to kill the terrorist family. And listen to his response.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1WCLk1AY-k

Trump could not justify killing the families of terrorist, maybe the campaigners of his here can give him a hand.

Here is another video where he says the military can't refuse his order to kill terrorist families. This guy is Hitlers, there is no if, ands, and buts about it.

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This has less to do with Muslims than it has to do with the serious problems facing America and some British folks being trolls on the negative perspective for America. Also it has to do with the new really really mentally r*tarded false Sikhs supporting a man like Trump, (again they aren't American).

You appealed to the mods to stop the hate on this forum, but its you being hateful and insulting others. I personally think the other brothers have made valid points while you just go on emotional insulting rants.
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You appealed to the mods to stop the hate on this forum, but its you being hateful and insulting others. I personally think the other brothers have made valid points while you just go on emotional insulting rants.

They are the ones supporting someone with hatred towards many groups, I don't see Dhan Dhan Sri Guru Nanak Dev Ji saying Donald Trump is a good man, remember what he told Babbar?

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It's very clear from the whole speech Trump confused the Sikh man protesting for a Muslim. Trump was speaking about 9/11 at the time of the Sikh man started protesting. Here is a clip showing the Sikh man protesting.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WelUUU9VcZg

After the protest Trump makes the comment of the man never wearing the "hat" again and they need to do something about them (Muslims). It is very clear from the video the Sikh man was wearing a turban and not a hat for Trumps campaign. And trump calls it a hat to disrespect the man, which he thought was a Muslim.

Let's look at his other comments. A Sikh will never support a person who says kill the terrorist family, but here is a clip of Trump saying to kill the terrorist family. And listen to his response.

Trump could not justify killing the families of terrorist, maybe the campaigners of his here can give him a hand.

Here is another video where he says the military can't refuse his order to kill terrorist families. This guy is Hitlers, there is no if, ands, and buts about it.

I have seen that video countless times. Trump is not anti-sikh, he has not disrespected the distaar.

Trump is brash, he is a new yorker, he has a thing called sense of humour. He said "ahhh he wasnt wearing one of those hats was he? and he never will" I actually laughed with him when he said that. Because that sikh guy is not one of his supporters, so he will never wear the "MakeAmericaGreatAgain" hat/ This protestor sikh has every right to protest but do so in the right way outside the event.Go start a blog, make a youtube video, go on radio but dont try and stop a presidential candidate from having his first amendment disrupted.

People say Trump is hateful. But wait there are people chopping off heads, burning people in cages, tying people up in cars and launching rockets at them and then saying allah akbar. What trump says towards islam I agree with. Apart from what he said about the family. But then again in war sometimes you have to use extreme measures to win against terrorists. If trump wants to kill the terrorists families as a warning to other potential jihadi terrorists of what would happen to his/her family I will not be offended by such move. Also trump has backtracked from this comment,

So many protesters especially the BLM thugs have been violent that now Sir Trump has stated publicly that he will press charges against them and told police to arrest them from now on. Now these protestors seem to dwindle away :biggrin2:

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Anyone else really hoping Trump wins? ? I want to see it for the keks.

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I dont fully support any candidate, but I certainly dont support the politicially correct B.S fueled anti-trump bandwagon. Bunch of big babies crying about their hurt feelings. Fools acting like Trump is going to deport or lock up every minority.

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Trump aside. the Dem candidates ie Clinton and Sanders are pretty sad. One a socialist who has never earned a paycheck until in his 40's and the other a totally incompetent person in pretty much everything she's touched, quite possibly the worst Sec of State the US has ever had.

And why are there only 2 candidates from the Dems? It's quite obvious they've got it sewn up for Clinton and Sanders is there for window dressing, to put up a show that the Dems actually have a choice. How sad and corrupt the Dems are and the fools that vote for them.

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I have seen that video countless times. Trump is not anti-sikh, he has not disrespected the distaar.

Trump is brash, he is a new yorker, he has a thing called sense of humour. He said "ahhh he wasnt wearing one of those hats was he? and he never will" I actually laughed with him when he said that. Because that sikh guy is not one of his supporters, so he will never wear the "MakeAmericaGreatAgain" hat/ This protestor sikh has every right to protest but do so in the right way outside the event.Go start a blog, make a youtube video, go on radio but dont try and stop a presidential candidate from having his first amendment disrupted.

People say Trump is hateful. But wait there are people chopping off heads, burning people in cages, tying people up in cars and launching rockets at them and then saying allah akbar. What trump says towards islam I agree with. Apart from what he said about the family. But then again in war sometimes you have to use extreme measures to win against terrorists. If trump wants to kill the terrorists families as a warning to other potential jihadi terrorists of what would happen to his/her family I will not be offended by such move. Also trump has backtracked from this comment,

So many protesters especially the BLM thugs have been violent that now Sir Trump has stated publicly that he will press charges against them and told police to arrest them from now on. Now these protestors seem to dwindle away :biggrin2:

Your'e a goof. I'm sorry if that sounds harsh but theres not much else to say to a post like this. Trump is a con man and hes not even doing a good job of hiding it. If your brain cant comprehend the fact that Trump is a egomaniac and a psycopath that cares about no one other than himself than I doubt it can comprehend much else.

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