Jump to content

Hmmm...5 Leaves For Shaheedi Degh - Marijuana Or Not?


Recommended Posts

  • 200,000 of them high as a kite pretending to be battle ready. But you tell me how a man with any cannabis in his body system could possibly partake in the Sikh art of warfare which requires 100% control of the senses, time awareness and hand-eye co-ordination ?

By any stretch of the imagination that is a massive generalisation.

Like ms514 I also studied a Life Science Degree, a half unit was the fascinating world of Toxins. A famous quote from Paracelsus applies to toxins as well as drugs '"All things are poison and nothing is without poison; only the dose makes a thing not a poison." This is often condensed to: "The dose makes the poison" or in Latin "Sola dosis facit venenum". So anything ingested in the right quantity can be a poison or harmful.

Those who abuse cannabis are not looked upon favourably and there are videos by Nihangs that denounce their behaviour, including the one I posted earlier. From a demographical point of view I cannot say how many are nashaee.

  • Like 1
Link to post
Share on other sites
  • Replies 103
  • Created
  • Last Reply

Top Posters In This Topic

Top Posters In This Topic

Popular Posts

There actually are health benefits associated with tobacco, 'Nicotine is an anti-inflammatory agent and has been shown, among other things to prevent and treat Alzheimer’s, as well as delay the onset

First thing is that I stopped training it for a good while. Then I'd also apply a hot and cold shower to the troubled area, meaning that I'd put it under hot water for a minute or two and then suddenl

If you look closely you will notice a lot of our people suffer from central obesity which means skinny arms and legs but big belly.The pic shown of the two men is a perfect example of this. This is a

I very much doubt getting high helps you in any battles. I've never heard of any martial arts promoting drug use. Then again that movie 'Drunken Master' comes to mind. LOL!

The only time I've heard of military using any kind of drugs were those Japanese kamikaze pilots during WWII partaking in some kind of tea ceremony where it was reported that the tea was laced with some powerful drug. Thus giving courage to those pilots to commit suicide on the battle field.

Link to post
Share on other sites

You married a Brasilian? I bet Avocados, Kaleh channeh and Acai is very popular in your household. ☺

actually after 20 plus years his tastes are totally changed : he hankers after dhal sabji , basmati rice, aloo parantha , can't eat without his achar now ... yep we do pasta , Black beans and rice etc ...but he's definitely desi at heart, his hajma cannot go back to long term withdrawal of spice ...

Guys I could post the list of symptoms that I would use to prescribed cannibis indica to my patients homeopathically if you would like that gives the poisoning picture , acute disease states and also includes chronic disease effects which would respond , just give me the nod.

  • Like 2
Link to post
Share on other sites

..

Guys I could post the list of symptoms that I would use to prescribed cannibis indica to my patients

Well now, this thread pretty much sums up the dire straits that the young 'Gursikhs' of the UK are in and pretty much sums up why many non-religious Sikhs in the UK see the 'amritdharis' as immoral and morally corrupt. It shows how all we fathers and mothers need to keep our children well away from a very large proportion of those in the UK wearing the garb of our Guru, dressing like him, pretending to be like him, but with all the morals and ethics of a common criminal from the council estate.

The thread has shown how an extremely large percentage are drug takers. Now, as the above proves, we have our fair share of dealers and pushers amongst them too.

Immoral, low down filthy dirty morally bankrupt scum, every last one of them. All you good Sikhs....you true Sikhs... need to ensure you keep your children well away from their toxic presence.

None of it should be all that surprising to anyone though.....I mean we had enough pieces of the jigsaw to make a clear picture. Take the above for example: As a teenage girl she ran off with her black brazilian boyfriend so should we really be all that surprised to find out now that she's also a bit of a massive fan of the ganga.......is partial to the weed. Happy days for her of course because in the present kaljug environment both her and her man can enjoy their beloved marijuana actually in the name of 'Sikhi'.

Just be careful of who that man or woman wearing a dastar and kirpan sitting next to you in the Gurdwara really is. As this thread has demonstrated, an extremely large proportion of them are filthy druggie scum from filthy druggie families.

Link to post
Share on other sites

Well now, this thread pretty much sums up the dire straits that the young 'Gursikhs' of the UK are in and pretty much sums up why many non-religious Sikhs in the UK see the 'amritdharis' as immoral and morally corrupt. It shows how all we fathers and mothers need to keep our children well away from a very large proportion of those in the UK wearing the garb of our Guru, dressing like him, pretending to be like him, but with all the morals and ethics of a common criminal from the council estate.

The thread has shown how an extremely large percentage are drug takers. Now, as the above proves, we have our fair share of dealers and pushers amongst them too.

Immoral, low down filthy dirty morally bankrupt scum, every last one of them. All you good Sikhs....you true Sikhs... need to ensure you keep your children well away from their toxic presence.

None of it should be all that surprising to anyone though.....I mean we had enough pieces of the jigsaw to make a clear picture. Take the above for example: As a teenage girl she ran off with her black brazilian boyfriend so should we really be all that surprised to find out now that she's also a bit of a massive fan of the ganga.......is partial to the weed. Happy days for her of course because in the present kaljug environment both her and her man can enjoy their beloved marijuana actually in the name of 'Sikhi'.

Just be careful of who that man or woman wearing a dastar and kirpan sitting next to you in the Gurdwara really is. As this thread has demonstrated, an extremely large proportion of them are filthy druggie scum from filthy druggie families.

1.he is not black, and even if he was what is it to a sikh of the Guru ???

2. no one ran anywhere, we have been married with Guru ji's blessing for over 20 years and our Kids are in sikhi.

3. homeopathic remedies have nano sized particulates of the original poison, mineral, plant material within it

4. you are seriously off target and frankly Waheguru should give you some sumat to not speak ill of others you know jack about .

5. Just because you incapable of lifting your head out of the gutter don't believe all people think like you, I treat people with what works according to strict principles of observation of the patient and their stated needs . I have with Waheguru ji's kirpa been able to help people who have been sidelined by docs as they couldn't get a magic pill to sort out their ills . If I was a drug pusher I would be no better than you , as I would be spreading dis-ease amongst humanity.

  • Like 1
Link to post
Share on other sites

1.he is not black, and even if he was what is it to a sikh of the Guru ???

2. no one ran anywhere, we have been married with Guru ji's blessing for over 20 years and our Kids are in sikhi.

3. homeopathic remedies have nano sized particulates of the original poison, mineral, plant material within it

4. you are seriously off target and frankly Waheguru should give you some sumat to not speak ill of others you know jack about .

5. Just because you incapable of lifting your head out of the gutter don't believe all people think like you, I treat people with what works according to strict principles of observation of the patient and their stated needs . I have with Waheguru ji's kirpa been able to help people who have been sidelined by docs as they couldn't get a magic pill to sort out their ills . If I was a drug pusher I would be no better than you , as I would be spreading dis-ease amongst humanity.

Jagsaw thinks he knows it all. He isn't an open minded person at all. Don't take his words to heart.
Link to post
Share on other sites

I study Materia Medicas , detailed descriptions, medicinal substances , poisoning data, folklore, traditional herbal uses, observed proving symptoms this creates a profile which homeopath's map symptoms of an individual patient to . Materia medica (English: medical material/substance) is a Latin medical term for the body of collected knowledge about the therapeutic properties of any substance used for healing (i.e., medicines).

There are over 3000 seperate medicines in the homeopathic pharmacopeia and Cannibis Indica is one. There are many different Materia medica books and often I have to cross reference to get a fuller picture . A patient can have some symptoms or many , on different levels of existence , emotional, mental, physical .Cannabis Indica has a skew towards mental symptoms :

http://www.homeoint.org/books/boericmm/c/cann-i.htm

http://abchomeopathy.com/r.php/Cann-i

lectures by respected homeopaths of the past :

http://hpathy.com/e-books/lectures-on-homeopathic-materia-medica/cannabis-indica/

from my perspective I can see battleweary -ptsd stricken people using it to get respite and sleep and freedom from overexcited nervous system and pain

  • Like 1
Link to post
Share on other sites

It's more a case of use vs abuse.

5 leaves of cannabis in an enormous deghis actually good. It has amazing medicinal values. In that quantity, it's no different to drinking tea...

Pretty much almost every plant in the world has 'medicinal values'. Apparently this is the new reason for getting getting high. Yeah, maybe I'll go take some 'medicine' now. LOL!

Link to post
Share on other sites
Guest Jacfsing2

Pretty much almost every plant in the world has 'medicinal values'. Apparently this is the new reason for getting getting high. Yeah, maybe I'll go take some 'medicine' now. LOL!

Are you seriously claiming that people who actually need medical marijuana are just trying to get high? I've never taken any marijuana; however, I do acknowledge that some people really need it, http://www.businessinsider.com/health-benefits-of-medical-marijuana-2014-4
Link to post
Share on other sites

Homeopathy = Crock science. LOL! Ok, maybe that was a bit harsh. Perhaps there are some good properties to this study however let's not fool ourselves. Those who did homeopathy are not exactly MD's. Throwing around a bunch of latin words to fool the gullible at SS won't change this fact.

I got to hand it to the pot heads. They are way smarter then the average alcohol consumer or the cigarette smoker. LOL! They created a whole bunch of pseudo science babble nonsense around pot smoking and now apparently, it's good for health! Throw in a bunch latin words, keep using the word 'medicinal' in every sentence structure....bam!!...now you've legitimized what was once disdained by society. This reminds me of those cigarette advertisements from back in the day where they showed these 'doctor types' in white suites claiming smoking a cigarette is actually good for your health. Yeah, I guess those Native Indians smoking peace pipes were just suffering from ptsd. Looks like they were light years ahead of everybody else. LOL!!!!!! To all the ganja supporters here, does cigarette smoking have any medicinal properties? I'm sure the tobacco plant is loaded with all kinds of good vitamins and minerals. LOL!!! The irony, these are the same people who want to ban cigarettes.

I think beer drinkers need to learn from these Ganja guys. Start by talking about the good effects of drinking beer. Keep throwing the word 'medicinal' around as much as possible. Find the latin words for hop, barley and alcohol, and impress the gullible. Tell you're suffering ptsd from office and you really need relieve this stress, so you're off to the local bar to get your 'meds'. LOL!!!!!! This just hit me, looks like I'm on a roll! Start telling everybody that a bar is actually a 'hospital' of sorts to help weary workers suffering from ptsd at work. LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Link to post
Share on other sites

@Jagsaw, this is a new low, insulting someone personally especially if they haven't done anything to you is just messed-up. Are you really anyone to judge anyone?

You are very much mistaken.

You're criticising me for using 'words' against you sikhs that love taking the drugs and in her example love pushing/dealing the drugs but I think at this point all of you filthy drugie scum should sit back and remember this simple fact: In the whole world, bar one or two countries, you so called 'Sikhs' here that love the cannabis, will not only be arrested and charged with a criminal offence for it, but, in most countries you will have your liberty taken away with a prison sentence and in many countries, such as Singapore, it is an offence deemed immoral enough to carry the death sentence !!!!!! :omg: And yet you're complaining about my mere 'words' against you junkie druggie scum ? :nono: Trust me, there are no words low enough to describe you that have sunk so low that you not only take intoxicants whilst wearing the Guru's clothes you actually justify it by trying to incorporate it into Sikhi. There are no words low enough to describe you people.

Link to post
Share on other sites

Pretty much almost every plant in the world has 'medicinal values'. Apparently this is the new reason for getting getting high. Yeah, maybe I'll go take some 'medicine' now. LOL!

never claimed that people should do nasha , I was talking about actual observed symptoms which have responded to homeopathic attentuations over the past 200 plus years . Yes Waheguru ji has created medicines for us , the strongest being naam

  • Like 1
Link to post
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

Loading...



  • Topics

  • Posts

    • The Nihangs still believe that Guru Gobind Singh Jee gave Gurgaddi to Guru Granth Sahib Jee. It is the foremost Granth. And Dasam Granth and Sarbloh Granth got Gurgaddi from Khalsa Panth.
    • https://theprint.in/theprint-essential/the-3-granths-in-sikhism-the-debate-surrounding-sarbloh-granth-dasam-granth/754060/ The 3 granths in Sikhism & the debate surrounding Sarbloh Granth & Dasam Granth The Nihangs, apart from venerating the Guru Granth Sahib, also hold in reverence the Sarbloh Granth and Dasam Granth. ThePrint explains the distinction between the three granths. CHITLEEN K SETHI 21 October, 2021 11:37 am IST Gurdwara Bangla Sahib in Delhi. | Nicolás Pérez/Wikimedia Commons | Representational image Text Size: A- A+   Chandigarh: The brutal killing of 35-year-old Lakhbir Singh at the Singhu border last week by a group of Nihangs as “punishment ” for allegedly trying to desecrate their holy book —the Sarbloh Granth — has triggered a fresh debate around Sikh scriptures and literature. The Sarbloh Granth is distinct from the Guru Granth Sahib, which is considered to be a living guru of the Sikhs. However, the Nihangs, apart from venerating the Guru Granth Sahib, also hold in reverence the Sarbloh Granth and Dasam Granth. ThePrint explains the distinction between the three granths and the controversy surrounding the Dasam Granth and Sarbloh Granth. The three granths While it is said that the Dasam Granth, another holy text of the Sikhs, is a compilation of various writings attributed to the tenth Guru —Guru Gobind Singh — the claims have been disputed. However, some of its contents like the Jaap Sahib are part of the daily prayers of the Sikhs — the Nitnem.In 2010, two groups of Sikhs clashed over the authenticity of the Dasam Granth at a gurdwara in Canada. Last year, a protest was staged at Gurdwara Bangla Sahib in New Delhi over a discourse from the Dasam Granth. The Sarbloh Granth, meanwhile, contains the famous Khalsa Mahima or the praise of the Khalsa, a composition attributed to the tenth Guru. The Sarbloh Granth was first published in the mid-19th century by Baba Santa Singh — jathedar of the Budha Dal Nihang order — and has been their revered text ever since. While in traditional Sikh gurdwaras only the Guru Granth Sahib is placed, the Nihang Sikhs place all the three granths in their gurdwaras. Explaining the significance of the Sarbloh Granth, Dr Jaswant Singh, assistant professor at University College, Dhilwan, said the Sarbloh Granth was discovered in a period later than the Gurus but it is composed in almost the same style as the Dasam Granth. “It’s a narration, a story of a battle between the good and evil forces which ends with the manifestation of the Sarbloh avatar.” “Though its contents reflect the puranic tradition, yet it is a transformed version. Its most significant content is the Khalsa Mahima or the praise of the Khalsa attributed to Guru Gobind Singh. The oft-heard and quoted ‘Khalsa mero roop hai khaas…khalsa mein hi ho karo nivaas,’ is from the Sarbloh Granth,” added Dr Jaswant. Dr Jaswant also said that apart from the Nihang gurdwaras where the Dasam Granth and Sarbloh Granth are placed along with the Guru Granth Sahib, the Sarbloh Granth is also placed in the Mai Bhago Gurdwara at Nanded Sahib (in Maharashtra). Talking toThe Print, Sikh scholar Dr Dharam Singh, who was also the editor-in-Chief of the Encyclopedia of Sikhism, said the Guru Granth Sahib is the compilation of the ‘word’ of the Sikh Gurus. “Guru Gobind Singh ordained that the Guru Granth Sahib be considered a living guru by the Sikhs. In all Sikh gurdwaras the Guru Granth Sahib is placed with great respect, bowed and prayed to,” he said. “The Guru Granth Sahib is a revelatory scripture while the Dasam Granth and the Sarbloh Granth are part of Sikh literature. As the name suggests, the Dasam Granth is attributed to the tenth Guru but there is a huge debate over it. Some scholars agree that some portions might have been authored by the tenth Guru but others reject the claim completely. Some parts of the Dasam Granth are included in the Nitnem (Sikh daily prayers) like the Jaap Sahib and Sewaiye,” added Dr Dharam Singh. “The Dasam Granth also includes the Bachhiter Natak, Chandi di Vaar which have resonance with Puranic literature. The only gurdwara where the Dasam Granth is placed like the Guru Granth Sahib is at Nanded Sahib,” said Dr Dharam Singh. Also read: Who are Nihang Sikhs? Sect accused of Sikh man’s ‘sacrilege’ lynching at Singhu ‘Sarbloh pothi is not sacred text’ Even as the debate over the Sikh holy scriptures continues, in a sermon delivered Monday, Sikh preacher Ranjeet Singh Dhadrianwale said Lakhbir was killed for no reason at all. “What is the proof that he committed a desecration? They killed him saying that he intended to desecrate their Sarbloh Granth. The Sarbloh Granth pothi is not a sacred granth,” said Dhadhriwale. Dhadrianwale, who was at the forefront of 2015 protests against the desecration of the Guru Granth Sahib in Bargaari, further said: “When we utter the words Guru Granth Sahib our heartbeats increase. We have so much respect. He is our real Guru whom we adore and worship. But in this case the desecration which was attempted was of a pothi (book) of the Sarbloh Granth which half the Sikhs don’t even consider (as sacred). Before getting agitated over someone harming your father, you should know clearly that your father is the Guru Granth Sahib and not the Sarbloh Granth.” His remarks came after the Nihangs justified the killing, saying that just as the Guru Granth Sahib, the Sarbloh Granth was like their “father” and if anyone tries to harm their father “it is their duty to defend him”. Also read: Punjab govt sets up SIT to probe if Lakhbir Singh was ‘lured’ to Singhu border  What Nihangs claimed Nihang leaders, meanwhile, claimed that Lakhbir had come to their “dera” some days ago and allegedly entered the bus where the granths were placed and removed the cloth in which the Sarbloh Granth was wrapped. The Nihangs camping at the Singhu border had housed the three granths in a bus near their living area. “He ran away with the Sarbloh Granth and we caught him with it. There were boxes of matchsticks lying there and we suspect that he had come to do something big,” said Nihang leader Baba Raja Raj Singh during a press conference at the Singhu border Sunday. Also read: ‘Devil & deep blue sea’: Why Punjab’s politicians are silent on Singhu Dalit lynching  
    • https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/international/world-news/afghanistans-sikhs-to-make-choice-between-converting-to-islam-or-leaving-country-report/articleshow/87204174.cms As the security scenario in Afghanistan continues to deteriorate, Sikhs -- a community that was already in a dire situation before the collapse of the government -- practically have to make a choice between options of "converting to Sunni Islam or run away" from Afghanistan, said a report.The community, which once numbered in the tens of thousands, has been ruined and devastated by years of emigration and death, driven by both systemic discrimination and an uptick in fanatical religious violence
    • https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-59015889   Alec Baldwin: What are prop guns and why are they dangerous? Published 4 hours ago Share IMAGE SOURCE,GETTY IMAGES On a film set, a real-life tragedy has happened. Police say US actor Alec Baldwin fired a prop gun that killed cinematographer Halyna Hutchins and wounded director Joel Souza on a film set in New Mexico. They were working on the film Rust. Tributes have been paid to Ms Hutchins, 42, while Mr Baldwin is said to be distraught. One local paper found him in tears outside Santa Fe County Sheriff's Office. An investigation is under way and we don't yet know what went wrong. A spokesman for Mr Baldwin said there had been an accident on the set involving the misfire of a prop gun with blanks. Such incidents are rare and the news has stunned the film industry. The use of firearms on set is subject to stringent safety standards. "On the film I recently made, even my plastic gun, I had to sign out, sign in every day," said Australian actor Rhys Muldoon. "So that's why this particular case is so incredibly baffling." Despite sounding innocuous, both prop guns and blanks can be dangerous. Here's what we know about them. What is a prop gun? Blanks are used in the film industry to imitate live ammunition. The reason they are so convincing is that blanks are essentially modified real bullets. While the term "bullet" is commonly used to describe what is loaded into weapons, more properly it is a cartridge that is loaded: a self-contained ammunition package made up of a casing holding an explosive powder that when fired, blasts out a projectile, or bullet. Blanks differ because although they use explosive they don't use a projectile. A prop gun could mean a range of items, from non-functioning weapons to cap guns. But it can also mean a real weapon, or one adapted for firing blanks. Together they add authenticity to productions - fire a blank using a prop gun and you'll get a loud bang, a recoil and what's known as a muzzle flash, the visible light created by the combustion of the powder. Has this kind of incident happened before? Yes. You may remember Brandon Lee, the actor son of martial arts legend Bruce Lee. Brandon Lee died aged just 28 in 1993 while filming The Crow, when a prop gun which mistakenly had a dummy round loaded in it was fired at him. Dummy rounds contain no explosive charge and in this case were used to film a close-up. When blanks were loaded part of the dummy round remained in the gun. After Lee was shot, the cameras kept rolling. It was only when he did not get up at the end of the scene that those on set realised something was wrong. In another incident, in 1984, US actor Jon-Erik Hexum started joking around on the set of a television show after being frustrated by delays in filming. He loaded a revolver with a blank, spun the chamber, put the gun to his temple and fired. Unlike Lee, he was not killed by a projectile, but rather the force of the blast was strong enough to fracture his skull. He died days later in hospital. How can blanks and props be used safely? Hexum's death highlights a problem with blanks - even without a projectile they pack enormous power. Adding to the risk, some film sets use extra powder to make the visual impact stronger. Film sets usually have strict rules about the use of prop guns. Specialists provide weapons for use on film sets and advise on their use. "There's basic safety measures on every set," said Mike Tristano, an armourer who has worked with Alec Baldwin in the past. "You never point a gun, even if it is not a firing gun, at anyone else. I'm at a loss how this could have happened and how it could have done that much damage." A common shot in film shows an actor firing into the camera and Steven Hall, who has worked on films such as Fury and The Imitation Game, says it only happens with safeguards. "If you are in the line of fire... You would have a face mask, you would have goggles, you would stand behind a Perspex screen, and you would minimise the number of people by the camera, " he said. "What I don't understand in this instance is how two people have been injured, one tragically killed, in the same event." Others working in film wondered why, at a time when gun effects can be cheaply added using computers, blanks are still being used at all. "There's no reason to have guns loaded with blanks or anything on set anymore. Should just be fully outlawed," tweeted Craig Zobel, an actor and director whose credits include Westworld and Mare of Easttown. "Prop guns are guns," TV writer David Slack tweeted. "Blanks have real gunpowder in them. They can injure or kill - and they have. If you're ever on a set where prop guns are treated without proper caution and safe handling, walk away. "No show or shot is worth risking people's lives," he added.
    • Gurbani tells parents not to impose on their children this way. Perhaps somebody knows the location or I'll see what I can find. It's either in Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji or Varaan Bhai Gurdas Ji.  Once they know you are able to leave and have the backing of Gurmat perhaps you will find you have new bargaining power for the behaviors that are acceptable in your family. You don't have to be the man of your house just be a man of your house, who sticks to his guns, backs with Gurbani, and speaks the truth for Sarbat Da Bhala. You are not beholden to them. If they want that extra icing in life called multigenerational support of extended family they have to create an environment for all three of you to joyfully have families there. And earn your consent. It is a great thing to do, provide for the elders...when they respect you and help you create your own joyful life.  I am only now rekindling certain familial relationships after being brainwashed my whole life that I was a man at birth, responsible for my mother, and going to be her retirement. It's sick and deranged. I actually want to do all those things. They way people twist it into slavery is disgusting though, and I will have no part in one sided contracts honored only by me. A big turning point is when I realized they all expected that to be at the expense of me having my own life, family, etc. And that as a larger family none of them were worth anything. A bunch of shallow, nindaks, assimilated into white supremacy before my eyes. No thanks. Hypocritical. Lying. Scheeming.  Next.  Family is a team. It's everyone playing the same game, by the same rules, and working together or it's not. Either we all win or it's not working right.  Bro. You can move. You can take a sibling with you. The flamingos leave their babies do they not? Guru Nanak Dev Ji took off on foot did he not? You can stay too and lay it down bro. Calm, cool, calculated, chardikala and correct.  They get rude, bring in Sangat to witness and support you. It's your family business, be a pro. The parents don't listen and learn something off you go. If you respect your parents, respectfully tell them what they need to do to have the life they want. If it includes you. 
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

Terms of Use