Banners At Visakhi Mela Condemned - Khalid Mamood - Nihal To Debate On So Called Asian Network

[sikhni777]

Assuming we were all armed who would you point your gun to and what would you achieve?

[StarStriker]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-36140872


Oh dear oh dear.....jus when the bbc cudnt b any crappier as a organisation, they go, just like sheep, post this article.

[sikhni777]

As long as no one was and is and will be killed, sit back and enjoy the publicity. That is what the sole aim of that symbol was. Hurray.... it's working. Shock !!!! This product actually works! !!!

[WaljinderSingh]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-36140872

Oh dear oh dear.....jus when the bbc cudnt b any crapper as a organisation, they go, just like sheep, post this article.

BBC has always been anti-sikh when it comes to freedom struggle - mention of any goi 'terrorism' will never be reported by them.

[simran345]

What's Vande Mataram?

A national song of India. Haven't you ever hard it Paji, it's on YouTube.

Some kids sometimes sing the national anthem which is different, but everybody doesn't.

This explains it:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vande_Mataram

[Jonny101]

A national song of India. Haven't you ever hard it Paji, it's on YouTube.

Some kids sometimes sing the national anthem which is different, but everybody doesn't.

This explains it:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vande_Mataram

This is a very superficial explaination. It doesnt get to the root of why monotheists like Muslims and Sikhs oppose being forced to say Vande Mataram.

This song, Vande Mataram appears in a fictional novel called Anandmath. The story of this novel is that a group of Hindu Sanyasis living in the jungles carry out a guerilla war against Muslims. These Sanyasis deitified land of Bharat into a Devi and call her Bharat Mata and worship her. This is the birth of the modern Hindu concept of Desh Bhagti. Many Hindu freedom fighters, especially Hindu Bengali revolutionaries took to this concept of DeshBhagti where Bharat the land is worshipped as a devi or Bharat Mata as taken from the fiction novel Anandmath.

Understandably, Muslims and Sikhs refuse to say Vande Mataram since we are not worshippers of any Devi or even the recently invented Devi known as Bharat Mata that the fictional Sanyasis in Anandmath worship. Our Isht is only Vaheguru not any Devi, fictional or otherwise

[sikhiseeker]

WJKK WJKF

Lucky I didn't go to the vaisakhi celebration because my son (4 years old) likes kirpana and guns and likes to be armed to the teeth with toy swords and pretend Army guns. Khalid Mamood would of had him arrested for affiliation to KZF lol because he potentially could of been a risk.

[Hammertime007]

Clearly its khalid mamood instigating it all. He has been to the mela over the years to get support for himself and the labour party.

[WaljinderSingh]

Clearly its khalid mamood instigating it all. He has been to the mela over the years to get support for himself and the labour party.

Did work well for him, didn't it.

[simran345]

This is a very superficial explaination. It doesnt get to the root of why monotheists like Muslims and Sikhs oppose being forced to say Vande Mataram.

This song, Vande Mataram appears in a fictional novel called Anandmath. The story of this novel is that a group of Hindu Sanyasis living in the jungles carry out a guerilla war against Muslims. These Sanyasis deitified land of Bharat into a Devi and call her Bharat Mata and worship her. This is the birth of the modern Hindu concept of Desh Bhagti. Many Hindu freedom fighters, especially Hindu Bengali revolutionaries took to this concept of DeshBhagti where Bharat the land is worshipped as a devi or Bharat Mata as taken from the fiction novel Anandmath.

Understandably, Muslims and Sikhs refuse to say Vande Mataram since we are not worshippers of any Devi or even the recently invented Devi known as Bharat Mata that the fictional Sanyasis in Anandmath worship. Our Isht is only Vaheguru not any Devi, fictional or otherwise

Yes I agree Paji. I couldn't find another meaning of it, just the first one I came to copy pasted it. That's why I write everybody doesn't sing it. That's their explanation of it on Wikipedia. It praises Hindu goddess, which like you said other Dharms don't believe in or worship, Sikhi doesn't do that.

I think Lata Mangeshkar did a song of it too. I've heard it I think in an old movie, can't remember which one though.