Bhai Mani Singh Did Parkash Of 1698 Dasam Granth Bir At Akal Takht!

[GPS]

Personally I do not think there is any truth in Bhai Mani Singh doing parkash of Sri Dasme Patshah's Granth Sahib at Sri Akal Takht Sahib in 1698.

I agree Bhai mani singh was not at harmandir sahib in 1698.

He reached there in mid 1699 at Guru sahib's command and took control from minas.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bhai_Mani_Singh#Leadership_at_Harmandir_Sahib

Bhai Mani Singh who was under the presence of Guru Gobind Singh in 1690s had taken over the Harmandir Sahib at Amritsar in mid-1699 from Minas.^[3

[chatanga]

There was a dual control of Harmandir sahib complex. Akal takhat was under control of Nihung singhs whereas Darbar sahib was under control of mahants.

True, but why should the Nihangs have ignored the henious actions of the mahants in not allowing the low-castes in?

It was going on for years. There is no excuse. This is where the Nihangs laid the seed for their own removal from Sri Akal Takht Sahib.

Not allowing karat parsed is condemnable.But that does not give right to jhabar gang to attack akal takhat and then become instrumental in shortening chaupai sahib at Harmandir sahib.

Yes it does, and not it doesn't.

If there is something wrong in any Gurdwara, it is the duty of a Sikh to correct that wrong. The Nihangs were ignoring it, so someone had to step up.

The Singh Sabha were very wrong to alter/shorten the banis.

[chatanga]

Of course Bhai maharaj singh was both a religious person heading Hothi mardan khalsa jathebandi and also a nihung fighter. He was fighter and revered in Punjab as a saint or messiah. He was caught from dear of Baba Bir Singh Nauragabadi.Need to read literature of that period especially role of Nihungs after Britsh annexation of Punjab.There is novel based on life of of baba Tega singh by Master Tara singh.He was one and some other nihungs who fled to Iran instead of laying down arms.Baba Hanuman singh Nihung was another famous Nihung who laid down life for sikh cause.

Bhai Maharaj Singh was not a frontline fighter. He manouvred to get the Sikhs to rebel against the british criminals and provided logistical support.

I agree Bhai mani singh was not at harmandir sahib in 1698.

He reached there in mid 1699 at Guru sahib's command and took control from minas.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bhai_Mani_Singh#Leadership_at_Harmandir_Sahib

Bhai Mani Singh who was under the presence of Guru Gobind Singh in 1690s had taken over the Harmandir Sahib at Amritsar in mid-1699 from Minas.^[3

There is no instance of Bhai Mani Singh goiing to Sri Darbar Sahib in any period before Guru Sahib's passing. Logicaly after 1699, and some years before, the Sikhs were involved in wars, and preparations for war. Would Guru Sahib have sent Bhai Mani Singh there in these kinds of pressing conditions?

We know that in 1704 Bhai Mani Singh escorted 2 Mahals to Delhi and then made his way to Damdama Sahib in 1706.

Sri Darbar Sahib was only vacated by the meenas in the time of Baba Banda Bahudur, when they fled seeing his army.

I think somewhere along the line the OP has got confused over the date of the Saroop being 1698 and Bhai Mani Singhs taking charge at Sri Darbar Sahib.

[GPS]

True, but why should the Nihangs have ignored the henious actions of the mahants in not allowing the low-castes in?

It was going on for years. There is no excuse. This is where the Nihangs laid the seed for their own removal from Sri Akal Takht Sahib.

Yes it does, and not it doesn't.

If there is something wrong in any Gurdwara, it is the duty of a Sikh to correct that wrong. The Nihangs were ignoring it, so someone had to step up.

The Singh Sabha were very wrong to alter/shorten the banis.

You may not be knowing the fact that singh sabha did write to British against allowing Maharaja dalip singh to claim Punjab.That was a treacherous act as they wrote a letter

to British siding with them.

Singh sabha did some good works but also did bad things as well.

Nihungs do not harbour casteism among them. I agree they should have sided with low caste sikhs as when one takes khande bate dee pahul caste system is eradicated.

But if you analyze the incident at Harmandir sahib it may be termed as symbolic protest.Singh sabha did nothing to eradicate caste system in Punjab villages as low caste sikhs were not even allowed to sit inside Gurudwaras.They used to have and still may be having langar sitting in a separate pangat in village guru ghars.I have seen it with my own eyes as late as late 1970s.

[GPS]

Bhai Maharaj Singh was not a frontline fighter. He manouvred to get the Sikhs to rebel against the british criminals and provided logistical support.

There is no instance of Bhai Mani Singh goiing to Sri Darbar Sahib in any period before Guru Sahib's passing. Logicaly after 1699, and some years before, the Sikhs were involved in wars, and preparations for war. Would Guru Sahib have sent Bhai Mani Singh there in these kinds of pressing conditions?

We know that in 1704 Bhai Mani Singh escorted 2 Mahals to Delhi and then made his way to Damdama Sahib in 1706.

Sri Darbar Sahib was only vacated by the meenas in the time of Baba Banda Bahudur, when they fled seeing his army.

I think somewhere along the line the OP has got confused over the date of the Saroop being 1698 and Bhai Mani Singhs taking charge at Sri Darbar Sahib.

Chatanga ji, marayada of Harmandir sahib was put in practice by bah mani singh ji in 1699 when he was sent by Guru Gobind singh ji after creation of khalsa.He did away with

Hindu practices there and baptized many sikh around countryside.

Please read two separate sources of reference

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bhai_Mani_Singh

In 1699, after the Khalsa Panth was created with the famous Amrit ceremony and Rahit Maryada (Code of conduct of the Khalsa) was ordained, Guru Gobind Singh sent Bhai Mani Singh and five other Khalsas to Amritsar with instructions to take possession of the Harmandir Sahib. Bhai Mani Singh was appointed Granthi of the Harmandir Sahib and Jathedar of the Akal Takhat.^[23] Mani Singh thus became the third Granthi of the Harmandir Sahib, after Baba Buddha and Bhai Gurdas. Mani Singh did away with all the Hindu practices that had crept into the Harmandir and restored all the traditional ceremonies of the Khalsa which became a regular daily feature. Apart from Kirtan Singing of hymns from the Granth Sahib, Bhai Mani Singh used to do Katha (Exposition of Gurbani) which became a very popular daily feature. Rahit Maryada was propagated and arrangements were made for administering Pahul (initiation) to new converts to the Khalsa fold. As a result of Bhai Mani Singh's efforts, a large number of Jats (farmers) from northern Punjab were initiated as Khalsas, whose numbers increased day by day. Many of them, when they went back to their villages, persuaded others to take the pahul and become Khalsas. Periodically, Bhai Mani Singh used to go to Anandpur Sahib to pay homage to Guru Gobind Singh and keep him informed of the affairs and happenings at Amritsar.^[24]

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^{Earlier source posted was from book of Surain singh dhanoa ' Raj Karega Khalsa" Surain s dhanoa is a retired chief secretary of punjab.}

^{Minas had lost control Harmandir sahib in 1699 and code Bhai mani singh established in 1699 is in written form and is being followed till today.}

[GPS]

http://sikhism.about.com/od/history/a/Golden_Temple.htm

1699 to 1737 - Bhai Mani Singh is appointed curator of Harmandir Sahib by Guru Gobind Singh.

[chatanga]

You may not be knowing the fact that singh sabha did write to British against allowing Maharaja dalip singh to claim Punjab.That was a treacherous act as they wrote a letter

to British siding with them.

Thanks but I was aware.

But if you analyze the incident at Harmandir sahib it may be termed as symbolic protest.Singh sabha did nothing to eradicate caste system in Punjab villages as low caste sikhs were not even allowed to sit inside Gurudwaras.They used to have and still may be having langar sitting in a separate pangat in village guru ghars.I have seen it with my own eyes as late as late 1970s.

The SS made a start though. If it happens in village gurdwaras then it's still wrong. But if it happens in a place where there are 4 doors for everyone and anyone to come, then it was definitely a good thing the SS did there.

Chatanga ji, marayada of Harmandir sahib was put in practice by bah mani singh ji in 1699 when he was sent by Guru Gobind singh ji after creation of khalsa.He did away with

Hindu practices there and baptized many sikh around countryside.

Please read two separate sources of reference

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bhai_Mani_Singh

Wikipedia as reference is extremely weak.

I am still unconvinced that the statement made by the OP is true, but I won't comment any further on this topic concerning Bhai Mani Singh until I do some further research and see if I can find anything. If you have any non-wiki sources then please share them.

[13Mirch]

This doesn't make sense, if Bhai Mani Singh Ji had access to this bir then why was he looking for parts of Dasam granth mentioned in the letter to Mata Sundri Ji.

That letter is believed to be a later forgery.

it looks like it has fire damage, not damage from a spear.

Mold damage.

[Jonny101]

That letter is believed to be a later forgery.

Mold damage.

The theory that it is a forgery is being spread by the anti Dasam Granth people like Harjinder Singh Dilgeer because they don't like a credible strong Sikh figure like Bhai Mani Singh ji being attached to Dasam Granth which they reject.

[13Mirch]

The theory that it is a forgery is being spread by the anti Dasam Granth people like Harjinder Singh Dilgeer because they don't like a credible strong Sikh figure like Bhai Mani Singh ji being attached to Dasam Granth which they reject.

There are other elements involved as well which indicate that the letter might be a forgery.