Puratan Sikhi

[AmandeepSinghBansel]

Waheguru ji ka khalsa waheguru ji ki fateh,

After doing much itihaas i have found it that the darshan of Sri Dasam and Sarbloh Darbar is of utmost importance for the sake of the chardikala of the Sikh panth alongside Satguru Granth sahib ji maharaj. What can be done in the uk and in sangats across the world to install sri Dasam granth and Sarbloh Granth as seen in Takht Sri Hazoor sahib were the maryada of the tisarpanth seems to be alive and well aswell as shastar darshan.Can those of us that believe this to be an important issue do anything to create change? The majority of non amritdharis seem to think that we only have one granth which sadness me. Our connection to Dasam pita seems to be cut when the majority of sikhs are ignorant on these traditions What can be done?

Bhull chukk maaf karo,

A manmukh.

[Guest Jacfsing2]

Waheguru ji ka khalsa waheguru ji ki fateh,

After doing much itihaas i have found it that the darshan of Sri Dasam and Sarbloh Darbar is of utmost importance for the sake of the chardikala of the Sikh panth alongside Satguru Granth sahib ji maharaj. What can be done in the uk and in sangats across the world to install sri Dasam granth and Sarbloh Granth as seen in Takht Sri Hazoor sahib were the maryada of the tisarpanth seems to be alive and well aswell as shastar darshan.Can those of us that believe this to be an important issue do anything to create change? The majority of non amritdharis seem to think that we only have one granth which sadness me. Our connection to Dasam pita seems to be cut when the majority of sikhs are ignorant on these traditions What can be done?

Bhull chukk maaf karo,

A manmukh.

Vaheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Vaheguru Ji Ki Fateh! I'm sure that Dasam Granth will never be in every Gurdwara to provide people knowledge of Dhan Dhan Sri Guru Gobind Singh Ji's bani, because some guy used a spear on the original Dasam Granth Sahib in the Akal Takht, during the Singh Sabha Movement, which allowed the SGPC to take over Gurdwaras. (a person who happened to believe in Dasam Granth, as a Nihang did it). The first solution is to stop inviting missionaries to your Gurdwaras like Dhunda and others. Have more availability of doing Nitnem for everyone. For Shastars you make Gatka the up most importance for an activity in the Gurdwara that anyone can do, (many people won't be inspired just looking at Shastars if you asked them. Vaheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Vaheguru Ji Ki Fateh!

[GurburAkal]

I am welcome to this idea, but SDGS and SSGS should not be prakashon the same level as SGGS.

prakash should be very much lower, so that we show respect to our Guru.

I have full faith and respect for Dasam Bani, but I think we need to remember our GURU is SGGS.

Guru Granth Sahib Maharaj is our GURU, they are not just a granth.

Although I do feel Dasve Patshah Dee Bani needs to return to our Gurdwara Sahibs

And along with keeping nice shiny shastars prakash , I think we should also buy firearms and keep them locked up in a gun safe to protect the Gurdwara Sahib if need be. Shastars aren't only for show, contrary to popular belief.

[AmandeepSinghBansel]

Wjkk wjkf

Veer Ji,

I am glad to say i feel the exact same way and we should without doubt move to keeping guns aswell (The Babbar Khalsa Singhs kept firearms ). However the question still pends...What can us UK wale singhs do to get both Sri Dasam and Sri Sarbloh Darbar into Gurdwara sahibs?

[13Mirch]

Vaheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Vaheguru Ji Ki Fateh! I'm sure that Dasam Granth will never be in every Gurdwara to provide people knowledge of Dhan Dhan Sri Guru Gobind Singh Ji's bani, because some guy used a spear on the original Dasam Granth Sahib in the Akal Takht, during the Singh Sabha Movement, which allowed the SGPC to take over Gurdwaras. (a person who happened to believe in Dasam Granth, as a Nihang did it). The first solution is to stop inviting missionaries to your Gurdwaras like Dhunda and others. Have more availability of doing Nitnem for everyone. For Shastars you make Gatka the up most importance for an activity in the Gurdwara that anyone can do, (many people won't be inspired just looking at Shastars if you asked them. Vaheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Vaheguru Ji Ki Fateh!

Either your information vis-a-vis the spearing of the Dasam Granth is wrong or either you are trying to state one thing but it's coming across as another due to incoherent writing. The culprit was Kartar Singh Jhabbar, who was staunchly opposed the Nihungs, a top brass of the S.G.P.C/ Akali commune. Gatka is only a drill, Shastar-Vidya (as taught by the Hazoori Singhs) is the real deal and not Nidar's little dance moves.

[AmandeepSinghBansel]

Wjkk wjkf,

Lets get something done about this and make sure the panth can come together. Please feel free to come with a solution to this problem. Guru ji da kirpa we'll be able to do something and stop Sikhi from being watered down and changed.

[Guest Jacfsing2]

Either your information vis-a-vis the spearing of the Dasam Granth is wrong or either you are trying to state one thing but it's coming across as another due to incoherent writing. The culprit was Kartar Singh Jhabbar, who was staunchly opposed the Nihungs, a top brass of the S.G.P.C/ Akali commune. Gatka is only a drill, Shastar-Vidya (as taught by the Hazoori Singhs) is the real deal and not Nidar's little dance moves.

We have to start somewhere, (which is why I said Gatka, many Sikhs don't do that at the least), also it is a fact that someone did spear a Dasam Granth Saroop, (are we really going to argue if it happened or not?)

[Guest XYZ]

Interesting Stop inviting why is Sikhi not democratic. Did all Gurus jees not taught how to love the enemy. Why did Guru Nanak gave love to Sajjan Tugg. Why did Guru Nanak Dev jee sent him to hell. Do you not have the ability to listen and teach love. Why are you promoting Guru Gobind Singh jee evil. Guru Jee was not evil. Guru Jee was loving image. Sikhs themselves are promoting that Guru Gobind Singh jee was terrorist. Shame on you people. My lord forgive you first. Do you have the knowledge of every single word in Guru Granth Sahib Jee. Do you read Guru Granth Sahib jee without a Saroop. If yes then you could be right if no then your lost. Puratian Gursikhs were loving GurSikhs. They only knew how to be one with the mighty WehaGuru.

[Guest]

Right now there's a real risk of RSS or other hindutva groups assimilating sikhism into hinduism if we go too near our sanatani ideals. 

Just saying 

[ms514]

VAHEGURU JI KA KHALSA, VAHEGURU JI KI FATEH

Find evidence in history that shows that when the Gurgaddi was transferred, parkash of Dasam Granth Sahib was also done and coconut and 5 paise were placed in front of Dasam Granth Sahib and/or Sarbloh Granth Sahib (same ceremony that was conducted to transfer Guruship from 1st to 10th Patshahi).  That might do it in a convincing manner.