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panj-aab just like shar-aab r both persian words. Aab obviously means water(s), and shar means shararat (naughty), alot of our words are from persian origins.

Define India? If by India you mean the artificial state that the British created in 1947, then no. But if by India you mean a continent of independent nations and regions as it always has been histori

You know, the same can be said of India

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29 minutes ago, mrggg123 said:

Been a while just thought id get your opinions on whats happening there and should we support it? Is the stone pelting right? If they somehow do get freedom what about khalistan? 

Vaheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Vaheguru Ji Ki Fateh, the possibility of Khalistan would be revived among Sikhs living in Punjab; however, what must be noticed is over the years the Punjabi people are hooked to Badal selling them drugs, (how else does he continually get democratically elected?) Now should we support Kashmir Independence, that is the tough question, since on one side they get their freedom, and on the other hand, would the Kashmiri Sikh population be allowed to visit the Gurdwaras in an independent Khalistan, we don't know? (That's partly a reason why some Sikhs during the Independence for those Hindus and Muslims in 1947 wanted Pakistan not to leave, the city of Nankana Sahib). To be honest, Daas cares very little about the independence of Kashmiri folk, (they were traitors to the Ranjit Singh Empire), but rather actually on the independence of a Khalsa Raj, (independent Punjab) is way more important, but would like open access with Gurdwaras all over the Subcontinent, not just India and Punjab also put Haryana and Himatchel as part of Independent Punjab, since neither Haryana nor Himachel existed during the era of the old Sikh Raj. Just Daas 2 cents. Vaheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Vaheguru Ji Ki Fateh!

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1 hour ago, Jacfsing2 said:

Vaheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Vaheguru Ji Ki Fateh, the possibility of Khalistan would be revived among Sikhs living in Punjab; however, what must be noticed is over the years the Punjabi people are hooked to Badal selling them drugs, (how else does he continually get democratically elected?) Now should we support Kashmir Independence, that is the tough question, since on one side they get their freedom, and on the other hand, would the Kashmiri Sikh population be allowed to visit the Gurdwaras in an independent Khalistan, we don't know? (That's partly a reason why some Sikhs during the Independence for those Hindus and Muslims in 1947 wanted Pakistan not to leave, the city of Nankana Sahib). To be honest, Daas cares very little about the independence of Kashmiri folk, (they were traitors to the Ranjit Singh Empire), but rather actually on the independence of a Khalsa Raj, (independent Punjab) is way more important, but would like open access with Gurdwaras all over the Subcontinent, not just India and Punjab also put Haryana and Himatchel as part of Independent Punjab, since neither Haryana nor Himachel existed during the era of the old Sikh Raj. Just Daas 2 cents. Vaheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Vaheguru Ji Ki Fateh!

Dogras were from Jammu not Kashmir 

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1 hour ago, Jonny101 said:

Watch this video. It gives a good analysis and background about the current Kashmiri uprising

 

Why do some Sikhs expect helping the Muslims would benefit us in anyway? All we have to do is a see a BasicsOfSikhi video featuring a person Muslim debate to see that they really won't be friendly. What will they, (Muslims), do to Sikhs when they get yet another country for themselves? (Our people bow way too much to Muslims these days, just look at that Sunny Hundal).

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41 minutes ago, Jacfsing2 said:

Why do some Sikhs expect helping the Muslims would benefit us in anyway? All we have to do is a see a BasicsOfSikhi video featuring a person Muslim debate to see that they really won't be friendly. What will they, (Muslims), do to Sikhs when they get yet another country for themselves? (Our people bow way too much to Muslims these days, just look at that Sunny Hundal).

kashmiris were orginally sufi until pak made them extreme, sufis were the ones on our side in history, hopefully they come back to sufism as they just want freedom like us. 

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5 minutes ago, mrggg123 said:

kashmiris were orginally sufi until pak made them extreme, sufis were the ones on our side in history, hopefully they come back to sufism as they just want freedom like us. 

Daas expects that an independent Kashmir would most likely turn into Sharia, (Jinnah was a very liberal Muslim, ate pork and had a few drinks, but look at Pakistan today). Also lets not forget how Kashmiris were heavily brought into Islam, it was heavy force, so much so that they went to the House of Dhan Dhan Sri Guru Nanak Dev Ji, and asked the one who refused to take a Janeu, to protect their Janeu. Aurangzeb did a lot to expand his faith in that area, and if it wasn't for Sikhs Kashmir would not only be majority Muslim, but 100% Muslim.

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16 minutes ago, Jacfsing2 said:

Daas expects that an independent Kashmir would most likely turn into Sharia, (Jinnah was a very liberal Muslim, ate pork and had a few drinks, but look at Pakistan today). Also lets not forget how Kashmiris were heavily brought into Islam, it was heavy force, so much so that they went to the House of Dhan Dhan Sri Guru Nanak Dev Ji, and asked the one who refused to take a Janeu, to protect their Janeu. Aurangzeb did a lot to expand his faith in that area, and if it wasn't for Sikhs Kashmir would not only be majority Muslim, but 100% Muslim.

paaji you have a point there. Lets not forget hindu hill rajas exist today because of us and the reason kashmiri isnt 100 percent muslim is because the hill rajas boot licking the british and backstabbing us. Kashmiris are certainlly converts if you look at their faces they look the same as the hindu rajas of jammu and border areas, it just everyone has an assumption all hindus look dark like the rest of india but this isnt true. 

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Damn Pakistani people can't get enough. They ruined their country, now trying to ruin another region. If only we were able to demolish these people. 

its not always the people, its mostly the gov and armies and their egos. Lets not forget India are no saints themselves. 

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2 hours ago, Jacfsing2 said:

Why do some Sikhs expect helping the Muslims would benefit us in anyway? All we have to do is a see a BasicsOfSikhi video featuring a person Muslim debate to see that they really won't be friendly. What will they, (Muslims), do to Sikhs when they get yet another country for themselves? (Our people bow way too much to Muslims these days, just look at that Sunny Hundal).

When did I say help Muslims? But Kashmir issue is a very important issue for all of South Asia. And Punjab is right next door to all this. We are currently living at times which will have very serious future consequences. All of the Muslim population of Kashmir is in rebellion. Indian army has 7 lakh soldiers stationed there. India is currently being ruled by the most hard-line Hindu politician(Modi) who has a reputation of using violence against Muslims which is partly the reason Hindus in India elected him. Muslim Jihadis are also getting more extreme and confident especially due to their successful Jihad in the middle East and in Afghanistan. Both of these extreme elements(Hindus & Muslims) are headed for a clash. And that clash will be over Kashmir. Next few years we might see chaotic like situation in the Indian Sub continent.

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2 hours ago, mrggg123 said:

its not always the people, its mostly the gov and armies and their egos. Lets not forget India are no saints themselves. 

India is even worse. What is Government, army made up of? People. And these people infuence other people. They then start forming up as "people" rather than the government etc. The people are just as "bad" as any government. 

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13 minutes ago, Jonny101 said:

You know, the same can be said of India

The Bharat that our people died for doesn't even exist in the modern world, when India, Pakistan, and Bangladesh would be one country, and our people wouldn't lose most of their land from Hindus and Muslims.

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