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The Christian menace to Sikhi in Canada


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41 minutes ago, Ranjeet01 said:

Protestants engage in Bible Worship. 
Catholics engage in Pope worship. 
Orthodox engage in nation worship.

Christ worship has been forgotten.

Christ's worship was always God Worship. Of what very little exists of Christ's works the Our Father being his prayer...is written to Our Father.

Even if those groups take a step back from the worship you've listed, they would step back into the cult of christ, unless then turned purely to the One...as Christ did.

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22 hours ago, Guest Jigsaw_Puzzled_Singh said:

Yes....we start with something simple - This is an ideal opportunity for all Punjabi Sikhs and Punjabi Hindus (including ravidassias) to come together, unite and work together.  Every Panchayat in every village in Punjab need to have discussions with their corresponding Tehsildars - make their concerns heard, i.e be on the look-out for and nip in the bud all attempts by Christians to purchase land around the firnis of each village. My understanding is that the land for these churches that have been springing up all over the place are being purchased by NRIs from North America who are very anxious and zealot about 'spreading the gospel of jesus' in Punjab.  When warning signs are triggered, i.e. the land is visible from main passing paved routes, the family are known to be Christian etc, the panchayat and tehsildar together must act to question the sale. None of this is new....What the Christians are doing in Punjab and how they're operating is not something new. I mentioned a few times on this thread - although nobody noticed - how the Christians in Punjab have taken a look at how the Sikhs have done things and copied the winning formula. Firstly, they took the  'our feelings and sentiments have been hurt' monster we created and ran with it for their own benefit, ensuring any criticism of them falls foul of criminal laws. Secondly, they looked at the purpose and position of the Nishan Sahib atop Gurdwaras across rural Punjab and ran with that too. They understood that by positioning the church and cross in strategic positions they could alter perceptions about the character of rural Punjab and by altering perceptions they were halfway there to conquering the mind. None of this is rocket science but all you guys on this thread talking absolute garbage need to start opening your eyes.

I understand. 

Next I am in Punjab, I will also will start to observe.

 

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10 hours ago, GurjantGnostic said:

Christ's worship was always God Worship. Of what very little exists of Christ's works the Our Father being his prayer...is written to Our Father.

Even if those groups take a step back from the worship you've listed, they would step back into the cult of christ, unless then turned purely to the One...as Christ did.

What I have quoted is from an Albanian Orthodox guy I know of.

There is a lot of crisis in Christian circles. 

If anything, they are in a bigger mess than us Sikhs. 

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4 hours ago, Ranjeet01 said:

What I have quoted is from an Albanian Orthodox guy I know of.

There is a lot of crisis in Christian circles. 

If anything, they are in a bigger mess than us Sikhs. 

and the kaami, lobhi evangelicals like hindu/sikh dhongi babey of our nation are sweeping in to take over the collection plate business ... the parallels are interestingly close .

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On 1/24/2020 at 12:40 PM, MisterrSingh said:

No. He's inwardly relieved we've rounded on Christians instead of focusing our ire toward the insidious Pakistani rape and murder gangs. Anything to distract from those close to his heart. Plus, most people with an ounce of self awareness would refrain from the constant, decades-long condescending, "You people are so beneath me," attitude that's ingrained in his psyche, which diminishes even his positive contributions, but Jagsaw and self- awareness are two things that are as compatible as chalk and paneer.  

I don't know what's wrong with you MisterSingh but you have a history of embarrassing yourself so saying what you said is nothing new or surprising for you. Right above your message in which you say 'no...jigsaw never offers solutions' there is my message in which I offer solutions (at the top of this page) If you like, I'll paste it again below in a minute but first this :  Think about how illogical your argument about me being a Pakistani agent / sympathiser is when in my message and other messages on this very thread I have called for an alliance between Sikh groups and the Hindu Shiv Sena / RSS groups to come together and work together. Just think about that for one moment.

So,,,,seeing how I am the only one on this thread actually offering solutions I'll repeat my message that you drowned out with your rant:

On 1/24/2020 at 10:08 AM, Ranjeet01 said:

Any suggestions or solutions? 

Yes....we start with something simple - This is an ideal opportunity for all Punjabi Sikhs and Punjabi Hindus (including ravidassias) to come together, unite and work together.  Every Panchayat in every village in Punjab need to have discussions with their corresponding Tehsildars - make their concerns heard, i.e be on the look-out for and nip in the bud all attempts by Christians to purchase land around the firnis of each village. My understanding is that the land for these churches that have been springing up all over the place are being purchased by NRIs from North America who are very anxious and zealot about 'spreading the gospel of jesus' in Punjab.  When warning signs are triggered, i.e. the land is visible from main passing paved routes, the family are known to be Christian etc, the panchayat and tehsildar together must act to question the sale. Panchyats in Punjab do have the power to stop sales.

None of this is new....What the Christians are doing in Punjab and how they're operating is not something new. I mentioned a few times on this thread - although nobody noticed - how the Christians in Punjab have taken a look at how the Sikhs have done things and copied the winning formula. Firstly, they took the  'our feelings and sentiments have been hurt' monster we created and ran with it for their own benefit, ensuring any criticism of them falls foul of criminal laws. Secondly, they looked at the purpose and position of the Nishan Sahib atop Gurdwaras across rural Punjab and ran with that too. They understood that by positioning the church and cross in strategic positions they could alter perceptions about the character of rural Punjab and by altering perceptions they were halfway there to conquering the mind. None of this is rocket science but all you guys on this thread talking absolute garbage need to start opening your eyes

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6 hours ago, Ranjeet01 said:

Firstly, they took the  'our feelings and sentiments have been hurt' monster we created and ran with it for their own benefit, ensuring any criticism of them falls foul of criminal laws.

Agreed. Note that physical desecration of Guru Granth Sahib ji is different. That's a physical act. The analog would destruction of an altar.

It's stupid that speech refuting religious beliefs is banned. That allows snake-oil preachers to skate by without any checks.

That's also the reason I oppose efforts by some posters on here to censor this board. We need open discussion to be able to figure out bad arguments vs. good arguments.

7 hours ago, Ranjeet01 said:

When warning signs are triggered, i.e. the land is visible from main passing paved routes, the family are known to be Christian etc, the panchayat and tehsildar together must act to question the sale

OK. But the problem is that they will then use straw purchasers (middlemen) or innocuously named trusts to buy land.

I think the main answer is to tell people never sell your farmland, which is a traditional value. If people don't sell their farmland, then none of these non-Sikh or anti-Sikh snake-oil organizations could buy land, period. I'm including various Hindu cults in this, too. For that matter, new Sikh cults, too. 

I mean, how many more deras are required?

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3 minutes ago, BhForce said:

Agreed. Note that physical desecration of Guru Granth Sahib ji is different. That's a physical act. The analog would destruction of an altar.

It's stupid that speech refuting religious beliefs is banned. That allows snake-oil preachers to skate by without any checks.

That's also the reason I oppose efforts by some posters on here to censor this board. We need open discussion to be able to figure out bad arguments vs. good arguments.

OK. But the problem is that they will then use straw purchasers (middlemen) or innocuously named trusts to buy land.

I think the main answer is to tell people never sell your farmland, which is a traditional value. If people don't sell their farmland, then none of these non-Sikh or anti-Sikh snake-oil organizations could buy land, period. I'm including various Hindu cults in this, too. For that matter, new Sikh cults, too. 

I mean, how many more deras are required?

Just looking at those quotes.

They are from Jagsaw not me.

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24 minutes ago, puzzled said:

The church really is in crisis in more than just one way. My christian friend told me that in her church her pastor is having an affair with a lady from the congregation! She said this happens in many churches.  

Is your friend black as Afro-Caribbean or African. 

This is quite common in their community. 

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