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8 minutes ago, dallysingh101 said:

The RCs are laundering money for the mob. They're not about to run out of cash anytime soon. 

They are losing members of their church to atheism or other denominations. 

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1 hour ago, Ranjeet01 said:

They are losing members of their church to atheism or other denominations. 

That pope can still pull in a crowd. Even if he slaps some of them for yanking his arm. I think they are pretty strong outside of Europe, like in south Americas?

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8 minutes ago, dallysingh101 said:

That pope can still pull in a crowd. Even if he slaps some of them for yanking his arm. I think they are pretty strong outside of Europe, like in south Americas?

Brazil is the most Catholic country, however the evangelicals are making inroads there. 

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9 minutes ago, dallysingh101 said:

That pope can still pull in a crowd. Even if he slaps some of them for yanking his arm. I think they are pretty strong outside of Europe, like in south Americas?

Vatican has social media like a official IG,  youtube channel, Twitter     which shows you the pope interacting with people and day to day life in Vatican. It keeps Catholics around the word tuned in.

It's like harmandir sahib having a official youtube channel   showing the daily routine and sangat experiences, "back stage" stuff  etc      I dont think it's a bad idea tbh      it's one way of drawing people in         social media plays a big part in modern day religion.  People wanna see things and know stuff     people wanna be involved in religion in more than one way      

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9 minutes ago, Ranjeet01 said:

Brazil is the most Catholic country, however the evangelicals are making inroads there. 

Are those evangelicals protestant? 

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9 minutes ago, puzzled said:

Vatican has social media like a official IG,  youtube channel, Twitter     which shows you the pope interacting with people and day to day life in Vatican. It keeps Catholics around the word tuned in.

It's like harmandir sahib having a official youtube channel   showing the daily routine and sangat experiences, "back stage" stuff  etc      I dont think it's a bad idea tbh      it's one way of drawing people in         social media plays a big part in modern day religion.  People wanna see things and know stuff     people wanna be involved in religion in more than one way      

I think our people in positions of authority back home don't have the charisma to pull it off. They come off like crusty old farts, with stern personalities most of the time. 

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6 hours ago, BhForce said:

Because our gianis certainly haven't told people why we should be Sikhs. 

Organised religion is the death of religious and spiritual devotion. Sounds paradoxical but it makes sense to me, lol. There's never any serenity to be found in a heaving, confused rabble. Those gianis need to depart their cushy, well-paid tenures at the major takhats (aside from the lucrative overseas summer tours), and begin to take the message to the people who need to hear it the most. If not, they can continue preaching to the choir, and when their time is over on this Earth, they'll realise how much more they could've done.

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14 minutes ago, MisterrSingh said:

Organised religion is the death of religious and spiritual devotion.

true    organized religion tells you this is how it is and this is how you do it,  dharmic faiths let you grow and let you experience it for yourself.       abrahamic faiths dont let you grow because they tell you "all the answers" they think they know it all and are very arrogant. thats why you see muslims and christians boasting and looking stupid. 

the nature of abrahamic and dharmic faiths is completely different.    

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1 hour ago, dallysingh101 said:

Are those evangelicals protestant? 

evangelicals are protestants. its basically the same thing 

church of england is protestant too

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3 hours ago, dallysingh101 said:

I think our people in positions of authority back home don't have the charisma to pull it off. They come off like crusty old farts, with stern personalities most of the time. 

they need to recruit a media team with a modern approach to things,  but they too stupid to do that.   i also think if they make a team of archaeologists  they will find some really cool things in amritsar    like secret under ground tunnels from the time of the sikh raj     you can create a fine balance between tradition and modernity    both are important 

so much potential in amritsar

like they reopened qila gobindgarh in amritsar which goes back to the time of the sikh misls and was later developed and further fortified by maharaja ranjit singh, they reopened the fort and decided to open punjabi dhabas and camel rides inside it    what the fvck!!!  why would you have dhabas and camel rides inside a fort used in battle!  how more out of character can they make it   

but like you said   they too stupid to do that  

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6 hours ago, BhForce said:

Do you think it would be good to tell our missionaries to just sort of relax and allow some of our sants to do "exorcisms"?

At least that way, our people would remain in the faith so they can be further reached later for real Sikhism.

not sure if that is against sikhi or not.   reading bani to get rid of ghosts nothing wrong with that

iv been to baba vadhbhag singhs dera sahib gurdwara and there is a lot of exorcisms there and i saw some weird sh1t happening!  didnt see any bani being read ...

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6 hours ago, BhForce said:

Yeah, that's kind of a like a popular Punjabi actress who supposedly became a Christian. She actually posted on social media that that's not true because she's still a Punjabi!

sonam bajwa 

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17 hours ago, Ranjeet01 said:

These christian denominations compete with each other and try to take followers off each other. 

It's like a business, nothing to do with spirituality. That's why I have no objection to any nonviolent means of opposing them. They're like snake-oil salesmen.

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14 hours ago, dallysingh101 said:

Are those evangelicals protestant? 

 

13 hours ago, puzzled said:

evangelicals are protestants. its basically the same thing 

It's not the same thing. Evangelicals are Protestants, but not all Protestants are evangelicals.

Evangelical comes from the Greek meaning "good news". Basically, all non-Christians are going to Hell, and evangelicals believe in spreading the "good news" that you can be saved from going to Hell by accepting Jesus.

Now do you understand why they are constantly trying to convert everybody? 

In their mind, they're just doing you a favor, even if by deception.

Older, more established churches tend to be Protestant, but not evangelical. Such as most Anglicans and Methodists. They are more moderate and usually mind their own business.

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