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The Christian menace to Sikhi in Canada

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6 hours ago, Ranjeet01 said:

Firstly, they took the  'our feelings and sentiments have been hurt' monster we created and ran with it for their own benefit, ensuring any criticism of them falls foul of criminal laws.

Agreed. Note that physical desecration of Guru Granth Sahib ji is different. That's a physical act. The analog would destruction of an altar.

It's stupid that speech refuting religious beliefs is banned. That allows snake-oil preachers to skate by without any checks.

That's also the reason I oppose efforts by some posters on here to censor this board. We need open discussion to be able to figure out bad arguments vs. good arguments.

7 hours ago, Ranjeet01 said:

When warning signs are triggered, i.e. the land is visible from main passing paved routes, the family are known to be Christian etc, the panchayat and tehsildar together must act to question the sale

OK. But the problem is that they will then use straw purchasers (middlemen) or innocuously named trusts to buy land.

I think the main answer is to tell people never sell your farmland, which is a traditional value. If people don't sell their farmland, then none of these non-Sikh or anti-Sikh snake-oil organizations could buy land, period. I'm including various Hindu cults in this, too. For that matter, new Sikh cults, too. 

I mean, how many more deras are required?

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3 minutes ago, BhForce said:

Agreed. Note that physical desecration of Guru Granth Sahib ji is different. That's a physical act. The analog would destruction of an altar.

It's stupid that speech refuting religious beliefs is banned. That allows snake-oil preachers to skate by without any checks.

That's also the reason I oppose efforts by some posters on here to censor this board. We need open discussion to be able to figure out bad arguments vs. good arguments.

OK. But the problem is that they will then use straw purchasers (middlemen) or innocuously named trusts to buy land.

I think the main answer is to tell people never sell your farmland, which is a traditional value. If people don't sell their farmland, then none of these non-Sikh or anti-Sikh snake-oil organizations could buy land, period. I'm including various Hindu cults in this, too. For that matter, new Sikh cults, too. 

I mean, how many more deras are required?

Just looking at those quotes.

They are from Jagsaw not me.

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24 minutes ago, puzzled said:

The church really is in crisis in more than just one way. My christian friend told me that in her church her pastor is having an affair with a lady from the congregation! She said this happens in many churches.  

Is your friend black as Afro-Caribbean or African. 

This is quite common in their community. 

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41 minutes ago, Ranjeet01 said:

Is your friend black as Afro-Caribbean or African. 

This is quite common in their community. 

Shes jamaican born in the uk 

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8 hours ago, Ranjeet01 said:

What I have quoted is from an Albanian Orthodox guy I know of.

There is a lot of crisis in Christian circles. 

If anything, they are in a bigger mess than us Sikhs. 

When you're a smaller, more compact group, it's easier to proliferate change than with much bigger behemoths. 

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1 hour ago, Ranjeet01 said:

Just looking at those quotes.

They are from Jagsaw not me.

Yeah, you're right.

I think it's time that @S1ngh allowed Jagsaw his account back.

Whatever he did to be banned, I think a few years punishment is enough, isn't it?

He brings up some good points, and other points that I strenuously disagree with, but that's the point of a discussion board. I'd rather have things posted so we can agree or disagree than let things fester without vichaar.

It's difficult to carry on a discussion when the other person doesn't have notifications.

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9 hours ago, Ranjeet01 said:

Is your friend black as Afro-Caribbean or African. 

This is quite common in their community. 

Racist and untrue. Congrats again redneckjeet. 

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7 hours ago, BhForce said:

Yeah, you're right.

I think it's time that @S1ngh allowed Jagsaw his account back.

Whatever he did to be banned, I think a few years punishment is enough, isn't it?

He brings up some good points, and other points that I strenuously disagree with, but that's the point of a discussion board. I'd rather have things posted so we can agree or disagree than let things fester without vichaar.

It's difficult to carry on a discussion when the other person doesn't have notifications.

Well he's still posting, might as well be able to address him directly. 

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On 1/25/2020 at 3:17 PM, Guest Jigsaw_puzzled_singh said:

I don't know what's wrong with you MisterSingh but you have a history of embarrassing yourself so saying what you said is nothing new or surprising for you. Right above your message in which you say 'no...jigsaw never offers solutions' there is my message in which I offer solutions (at the top of this page) If you like, I'll paste it again below in a minute but first this :  Think about how illogical your argument about me being a Pakistani agent / sympathiser is when in my message and other messages on this very thread I have called for an alliance between Sikh groups and the Hindu Shiv Sena / RSS groups to come together and work together. Just think about that for one moment.

I'm my defense, with you being on Quality Control your posts do appear on a delay, so it's difficult to time a reply to something on that basis. 

I'll forgo the quip about embarrassment. You can delude yourself into believing it; whatever provides you with the succour to cope with your deficiencies, comrade.

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On 1/26/2020 at 2:19 AM, GurjantGnostic said:

Racist and untrue. Congrats again redneckjeet. 

Well Puzzled confirmed that his friend was Jamaican who mentioned this to him.

Jamaicans in the UK are Afro-Caribbean. 

It's like saying that corruption is common with Gurdwara commitee members. These Gurdwara commitee members are Sikh and it is true. 

Nothing racist about pointing it out.

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On 1/25/2020 at 1:38 AM, Ranjeet01 said:

What I have quoted is from an Albanian Orthodox guy I know of.

There is a lot of crisis in Christian circles. 

If anything, they are in a bigger mess than us Sikhs. 

That quote is 100 percent true of churches period. The fact you instantly swung and happened to connect doesn't change the fact you're a racist bro. 

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3 hours ago, GurjantGnostic said:

That quote is 100 percent true of churches period. The fact you instantly swung and happened to connect doesn't change the fact you're a racist bro. 

Please explain how I am racist?

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19 hours ago, GurjantGnostic said:

It's been explained brother. Until you reflect on it maybe just don't talk about black folk. 

Why I am not allowed to talk about black folk?

I hope you are not trying to censor me.

You do come from a country where the 1st amendment is all important. 

Nothing I said was hate speech. 

You seem to have a tyrannical authoritarian streak in you.

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On 1/27/2020 at 5:44 AM, MisterrSingh said:

I'm my defense, with you being on Quality Control your posts do appear on a delay, so it's difficult to time a reply to something on that basis. 

I'll forgo the quip about embarrassment. You can delude yourself into believing it; whatever provides you with the succour to cope with your deficiencies, comrade.

I've said it before MisterSingh and I'll say it again. The nature of online discussion forums is that the reader, from messages written, gains a picture in his or her head about the life of the individual doing the writing. With you always being here, day or night, rain or shine, 24/7, 365 days a year and the fact that you're one of these very asocial people that have not figured out what kind of words and sentences people use in informal settings such as this discussion forum and so construct sentences as if it will be marked by an academic for a journal I think pretty much everyone has an image of you as one of either two things. And, if you had even an ounce of self-awareness - and it were possible to change - you'd make an effort to correct yourself. I'm willing to bet money on either, or both the following:

Physically handicapped - perhaps lacking a limb or something, so permanently at home without a job and wife etc with petty hate and bitterness spinning around your head.

Mentally challenged - unable to distinguish an academic dissertation from an informal forum for da yoots dem and so behaves like Jacob Rees Mogg at a Jamaican blues party.

My advice to you then is twofold. Firstly self-reflect on what you did on this thread, i.e. deliberately start an argument when absolutely no argument was needed. Secondly, develop some self-awareness and understand how retarded writing in an academic way on discussion forums makes you look to others.

Remember, on this thread, I made people aware of a serious problem for our faith and then offered positive and meaningful solutions. You offered an argument. No solutions. No positive ideas. Just an argument. And when the seeds for an argument didn't exist. You just went ahead and started an argument anyway. Self-reflect on that. 

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