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I just read this five-year-old thread here

and I am amazed and astonished and disgusted at how mind-numbingly low religion can bring people.

This was a post by a 20-year-old Sikh girl who happened to be in a relationship with a Muslim boy. There were absolutely no problems with the relationship -- he was NOT religious, he never spoke badly of her religion, he was very liberal and gentlemanly and encouraged her with her studies and did everything a good boyfriend should do. He was the polar opposite of the stereotype that Sikhs have of Muslims. Yet the girl was so ASHAMED to be in a relationship with a Muslim that she kept the relationship a secret from her family and friends. When she came here, confused and sad and looking for advice -- she was torn to pieces by her co-religionists who called her boyfriend racial slurs like "sullah," accused her of betraying her religion and family and culture, and saying she had cheapened and insulted her entire community because that community would suffer the humiliation of a Muslim boy having one of its women, apparently.

The girl was basically bullied and verbally abused into breaking it off with the boyfriend, who had done absolutely nothing wrong once again, and was blindsided and rewarded for his kindness and open-mindedness and love with a stab in the back. She broke it off with him not because of anything he had done, but because he wasn't good enough for her tyrannical family and fellow Sikhs.

As a nonreligious man with a Muslim family background I can somewhat understand that a really indoctrinated, generalizing Sikh ignorant of history and selective with memory would only remember that Aurangzeb had some guru flayed alive and that the Mughals staged massacres of Sikhs some five centuries ago, and that Muslims allegedly do X and Y and Z to Sikhs today, while of course completely turning a blind eye to any atrocities Sikhs are accused of. Yet still, the fact that such an ironfisted hatred can coexist with an average human IQ is baffling.

Me, on the other hand -- I have NO religion. I cast mine off long ago. Why do I need a faith? What does a religious person have in their mind and spirit that I do not -- and what mistakes or sins do I commit that a religious person doesn't? I hate no one, no one is my enemy. I do not have to attach myself to a vast population that shares "my" religion and consequently have to hate whoever they hate and be against whoever they feel has wronged them. Religious books tell me (depending on the religion) not to eat bacon, mix wool with linen, cut my hair, accept blood donations, or some other gibberish -- while I have never learned anything about morality itself from a religious book that I did not already know thanks to being human. I am free to be a good person based on my own rationality and conscience, and am thus free from absurd and completely artificial expressions of religious morality. Being virtuous has nothing to do with refusing to cut your hair, wearing a turban, carrying around a dagger or praying at the gurdwara. I am shocked at how religious people can think that a decent life on earth requires so much arcane complication and symbolism and ritual. That thread was full of people who probably did all of these things, yet lacked any common sense or true morality.

There is NO such thing as prophethood or revelation -- how can anyone think that God would reveal himself to ONE person like a guru or a prophet, and then simply leave billions of other human beings to be convinced or not convinced by the prophet's preaching? All the Sikh Gurus combined, know as much as I do about God -- and that is as much as the Pope of Rome, the Grand Mufti of Saudi Arabia, or the President of the Mormon Church knows -- NOTHING. Your revelations, miracles, prayers -- are all stories in an extremely well-written book of poetry, like the Bible and the Qur'an.

The Sikhs I have met in real life seem very little like the ones in the thread. They were humble, polite, well-spoken, not dogmatic in the least, always inviting me to gurdwara for this or that although I avoid all places of worship -- but it seems religious and committed Sikhs are just as bad as really committed Muslims or really committed Hindus. We all need to GROW UP. If I tell you I'm Muslim and you tell me I'm Sikh, that's like me saying I believe in Santa Claus while you believe in the Easter Bunny. There may very well be a god -- the universe could not have come from nothing -- but religion is the most powerful fairy tale ever, in that children continue to believe and swear by it until they die of old age, despite not a shred of evidence to support one atom of any religion. I believe India in particular is falling apart because of religion. The trick is not to encourage tolerance or dialogue or anything like that -- that has been tried for thousands of years. The trick is to realize that that holy book you're holding in your hand, whatever your religion, belongs in a literature class -- it has nothing to do with reality and it's not a replacement for your brain.

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Nip this kind of  stuff in the bud admin. 

These tossers go mental when some nonsullah dates their daughters/sisters but then act flabbergasted when some other community objects to the same thing. 

The rest of you people. Don't fuel ex-Abdul over here. 

To the OP: Mate you want to go to a Muslim forum and preach your crap to them mate. Have a look at what's going on in the world! You got some front trying to lecture Sikhs about intolerance.   

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Also, this is classic internet taqqiah in action. On places like Reddit, etc., i.e. on huge internet forums that attract millions of predominantly white, middle-class users, even they've wisened up to these tactics. The "I'm an ex-Muslim / Atheist / Agnostic with Muslim roots" is an incredibly common method of disarming and nullifying any opposition and potential criticism before launching into the crux and reason for creating whatever topic was made. 

Be smart, people. Don't show yourselves up by falling for the bait, and getting yourself drawn into a one-sided conversation that's put you on the back foot before it's even begun.

And, yes, I agree, admins should be on topics like these like a shot. If they're busy or aren't browsing the site, then perhaps the site needs to be closed until they're able to moderate the forum in an effective manner like every other forum out there.

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We should not allow any platform for this type of bull5hit. If we've got a few weak minds reading the forum, they might get influenced. That's how this type of parchaar works. Next thing you know, we've got some dimwitted apnay or apneean defending these fudhus, causing an apparent weakness in our panth. Meanwhile they watch us argue over the issue they've brought out (for their own agenda).

I think a lot of paks (in the UK at least) are vexed now, because a lot of apnay/apneean have finally woken up to the truth about the menfolk of these people, and what they are often like behind their phoney act of being decent humans. That must have negatively impacted on their ability and opportunities to act out their depravities. lol

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7 hours ago, Guest Enlightenment said:

I just read this five-year-old thread here

and I am amazed and astonished and disgusted at how mind-numbingly low religion can bring people.

This was a post by a 20-year-old Sikh girl who happened to be in a relationship with a Muslim boy. There were absolutely no problems with the relationship -- he was NOT religious, he never spoke badly of her religion, he was very liberal and gentlemanly and encouraged her with her studies and did everything a good boyfriend should do. He was the polar opposite of the stereotype that Sikhs have of Muslims. Yet the girl was so ASHAMED to be in a relationship with a Muslim that she kept the relationship a secret from her family and friends. When she came here, confused and sad and looking for advice -- she was torn to pieces by her co-religionists who called her boyfriend racial slurs like "sullah," accused her of betraying her religion and family and culture, and saying she had cheapened and insulted her entire community because that community would suffer the humiliation of a Muslim boy having one of its women, apparently.

The girl was basically bullied and verbally abused into breaking it off with the boyfriend, who had done absolutely nothing wrong once again, and was blindsided and rewarded for his kindness and open-mindedness and love with a stab in the back. She broke it off with him not because of anything he had done, but because he wasn't good enough for her tyrannical family and fellow Sikhs.

As a nonreligious man with a Muslim family background I can somewhat understand that a really indoctrinated, generalizing Sikh ignorant of history and selective with memory would only remember that Aurangzeb had some guru flayed alive and that the Mughals staged massacres of Sikhs some five centuries ago, and that Muslims allegedly do X and Y and Z to Sikhs today, while of course completely turning a blind eye to any atrocities Sikhs are accused of. Yet still, the fact that such an ironfisted hatred can coexist with an average human IQ is baffling.

Me, on the other hand -- I have NO religion. I cast mine off long ago. Why do I need a faith? What does a religious person have in their mind and spirit that I do not -- and what mistakes or sins do I commit that a religious person doesn't? I hate no one, no one is my enemy. I do not have to attach myself to a vast population that shares "my" religion and consequently have to hate whoever they hate and be against whoever they feel has wronged them. Religious books tell me (depending on the religion) not to eat bacon, mix wool with linen, cut my hair, accept blood donations, or some other gibberish -- while I have never learned anything about morality itself from a religious book that I did not already know thanks to being human. I am free to be a good person based on my own rationality and conscience, and am thus free from absurd and completely artificial expressions of religious morality. Being virtuous has nothing to do with refusing to cut your hair, wearing a turban, carrying around a dagger or praying at the gurdwara. I am shocked at how religious people can think that a decent life on earth requires so much arcane complication and symbolism and ritual. That thread was full of people who probably did all of these things, yet lacked any common sense or true morality.

There is NO such thing as prophethood or revelation -- how can anyone think that God would reveal himself to ONE person like a guru or a prophet, and then simply leave billions of other human beings to be convinced or not convinced by the prophet's preaching? All the Sikh Gurus combined, know as much as I do about God -- and that is as much as the Pope of Rome, the Grand Mufti of Saudi Arabia, or the President of the Mormon Church knows -- NOTHING. Your revelations, miracles, prayers -- are all stories in an extremely well-written book of poetry, like the Bible and the Qur'an.

The Sikhs I have met in real life seem very little like the ones in the thread. They were humble, polite, well-spoken, not dogmatic in the least, always inviting me to gurdwara for this or that although I avoid all places of worship -- but it seems religious and committed Sikhs are just as bad as really committed Muslims or really committed Hindus. We all need to GROW UP. If I tell you I'm Muslim and you tell me I'm Sikh, that's like me saying I believe in Santa Claus while you believe in the Easter Bunny. There may very well be a god -- the universe could not have come from nothing -- but religion is the most powerful fairy tale ever, in that children continue to believe and swear by it until they die of old age, despite not a shred of evidence to support one atom of any religion. I believe India in particular is falling apart because of religion. The trick is not to encourage tolerance or dialogue or anything like that -- that has been tried for thousands of years. The trick is to realize that that holy book you're holding in your hand, whatever your religion, belongs in a literature class -- it has nothing to do with reality and it's not a replacement for your brain.

You disgusting social justice warroir pro islamist retard. Go tell the muslims not to kill non-muslims first. And tell the muslim girls to convert to sikhism and marry sikh guys first then speak to us about your disgust because chances are a sullah will tell you to go to hell or try to harm you. 

People like you are the reason muslims are grooming girls for sexual abuse and killing people in name of pagan moon god allah. You are the enablers of islamist abuse. Your probably a muslim troll

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I approved this topic just to show sangat that there are such these type of ppl and very much needed to beware of them. They raise the flag of "liberalism" BUT they are actually not. 

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11 hours ago, Guest Enlightenment said:

I just read this five-year-old thread here

and I am amazed and astonished and disgusted at how mind-numbingly low religion can bring people.

This was a post by a 20-year-old Sikh girl who happened to be in a relationship with a Muslim boy. There were absolutely no problems with the relationship -- he was NOT religious, he never spoke badly of her religion, he was very liberal and gentlemanly and encouraged her with her studies and did everything a good boyfriend should do. He was the polar opposite of the stereotype that Sikhs have of Muslims. Yet the girl was so ASHAMED to be in a relationship with a Muslim that she kept the relationship a secret from her family and friends. When she came here, confused and sad and looking for advice -- she was torn to pieces by her co-religionists who called her boyfriend racial slurs like "sullah," accused her of betraying her religion and family and culture, and saying she had cheapened and insulted her entire community because that community would suffer the humiliation of a Muslim boy having one of its women, apparently.

The girl was basically bullied and verbally abused into breaking it off with the boyfriend, who had done absolutely nothing wrong once again, and was blindsided and rewarded for his kindness and open-mindedness and love with a stab in the back. She broke it off with him not because of anything he had done, but because he wasn't good enough for her tyrannical family and fellow Sikhs.

As a nonreligious man with a Muslim family background I can somewhat understand that a really indoctrinated, generalizing Sikh ignorant of history and selective with memory would only remember that Aurangzeb had some guru flayed alive and that the Mughals staged massacres of Sikhs some five centuries ago, and that Muslims allegedly do X and Y and Z to Sikhs today, while of course completely turning a blind eye to any atrocities Sikhs are accused of. Yet still, the fact that such an ironfisted hatred can coexist with an average human IQ is baffling.

Me, on the other hand -- I have NO religion. I cast mine off long ago. Why do I need a faith? What does a religious person have in their mind and spirit that I do not -- and what mistakes or sins do I commit that a religious person doesn't? I hate no one, no one is my enemy. I do not have to attach myself to a vast population that shares "my" religion and consequently have to hate whoever they hate and be against whoever they feel has wronged them. Religious books tell me (depending on the religion) not to eat bacon, mix wool with linen, cut my hair, accept blood donations, or some other gibberish -- while I have never learned anything about morality itself from a religious book that I did not already know thanks to being human. I am free to be a good person based on my own rationality and conscience, and am thus free from absurd and completely artificial expressions of religious morality. Being virtuous has nothing to do with refusing to cut your hair, wearing a turban, carrying around a dagger or praying at the gurdwara. I am shocked at how religious people can think that a decent life on earth requires so much arcane complication and symbolism and ritual. That thread was full of people who probably did all of these things, yet lacked any common sense or true morality.

There is NO such thing as prophethood or revelation -- how can anyone think that God would reveal himself to ONE person like a guru or a prophet, and then simply leave billions of other human beings to be convinced or not convinced by the prophet's preaching? All the Sikh Gurus combined, know as much as I do about God -- and that is as much as the Pope of Rome, the Grand Mufti of Saudi Arabia, or the President of the Mormon Church knows -- NOTHING. Your revelations, miracles, prayers -- are all stories in an extremely well-written book of poetry, like the Bible and the Qur'an.

The Sikhs I have met in real life seem very little like the ones in the thread. They were humble, polite, well-spoken, not dogmatic in the least, always inviting me to gurdwara for this or that although I avoid all places of worship -- but it seems religious and committed Sikhs are just as bad as really committed Muslims or really committed Hindus. We all need to GROW UP. If I tell you I'm Muslim and you tell me I'm Sikh, that's like me saying I believe in Santa Claus while you believe in the Easter Bunny. There may very well be a god -- the universe could not have come from nothing -- but religion is the most powerful fairy tale ever, in that children continue to believe and swear by it until they die of old age, despite not a shred of evidence to support one atom of any religion. I believe India in particular is falling apart because of religion. The trick is not to encourage tolerance or dialogue or anything like that -- that has been tried for thousands of years. The trick is to realize that that holy book you're holding in your hand, whatever your religion, belongs in a literature class -- it has nothing to do with reality and it's not a replacement for your brain.

I wish there were more people with a mind like you out there, the world would be such a better place.

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I am of muslim background

OP's post sounds like the ranting of a madman. Someone no doubt "lost".

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 that Aurangzeb had some guru flayed alive 

The way you refer to the Guru is very disrespectful.

Guru Tegh Bahadur Ji sacrificed his life for the right of freedom of reglion.

Bulleh Shah a sufi punjabi poet called Guru Tegh Bahadur Ji, Ghazi. Meaning a true religious warrior.

Rab Rakha

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On 1/2/2017 at 0:33 PM, Guest Just me said:

I wish there were more people with a mind like you out there, the world would be such a better place.

You are the same person as of who posted this Original Thread. IP address matches. :nosee:

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basically if people are too dim to actually see that this is fishing expedition they deserve all they get , sure he's gonna play both sides because sappy teenagers would be too trusting and believe his BS

. If Guru Gobind SIngh ji said himself to never trust those who swear down that they are not this or that,  or that they would never harm you/loved you no matter the background and he specifically gave orders not to give children into such backgrounds I would pay attention .

Any faith that says a sin is excusable in the name of that faith's spreading you know you are being lead up the garden path, Guru Nanak Dev ji never claimed any such thing and Guru ji still doesn't .


It is a point I have noted lately that their is a rumour mill of atrocities committed by sikhs against Others (namely muslims)  during Guru Sahiban times  even purporting that our kakkars are some symbol of a pledge to kill muslims . For all you fakes out there lurking , Our Guru ji didn't kill the innocent, weak or unarmed neither did his followers , sure we defended our homes, families and faith against armies and tyrants who claimed to be doing God's work but sinning to the Max -that is our right and duty. As for it being only against Muslims try reading history and you will see even Hill rajas who were Hindus fought against the Guru and his sikhs whilst those who recognised God truly (both Muslim and Hindu) fought alongside the Guru against such treachery and tyranny.

Tum ko tumare khoob , hum ko humara.

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8 hours ago, S1ngh said:

You are the same person as of who posted this Original Thread. IP address matches. :nosee:

Lmao, I just knew it. They play both sides. 

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On 02/01/2017 at 8:41 AM, Guest Enlightenment said:

I just read this five-year-old thread here

and I am amazed and astonished and disgusted at how mind-numbingly low religion can bring people.

This was a post by a 20-year-old Sikh girl who happened to be in a relationship with a Muslim boy. There were absolutely no problems with the relationship -- he was NOT religious, he never spoke badly of her religion, he was very liberal and gentlemanly and encouraged her with her studies and did everything a good boyfriend should do. He was the polar opposite of the stereotype that Sikhs have of Muslims. Yet the girl was so ASHAMED to be in a relationship with a Muslim that she kept the relationship a secret from her family and friends. When she came here, confused and sad and looking for advice -- she was torn to pieces by her co-religionists who called her boyfriend racial slurs like "sullah," accused her of betraying her religion and family and culture, and saying she had cheapened and insulted her entire community because that community would suffer the humiliation of a Muslim boy having one of its women, apparently.

The girl was basically bullied and verbally abused into breaking it off with the boyfriend, who had done absolutely nothing wrong once again, and was blindsided and rewarded for his kindness and open-mindedness and love with a stab in the back. She broke it off with him not because of anything he had done, but because he wasn't good enough for her tyrannical family and fellow Sikhs.

As a nonreligious man with a Muslim family background I can somewhat understand that a really indoctrinated, generalizing Sikh ignorant of history and selective with memory would only remember that Aurangzeb had some guru flayed alive and that the Mughals staged massacres of Sikhs some five centuries ago, and that Muslims allegedly do X and Y and Z to Sikhs today, while of course completely turning a blind eye to any atrocities Sikhs are accused of. Yet still, the fact that such an ironfisted hatred can coexist with an average human IQ is baffling.

Me, on the other hand -- I have NO religion. I cast mine off long ago. Why do I need a faith? What does a religious person have in their mind and spirit that I do not -- and what mistakes or sins do I commit that a religious person doesn't? I hate no one, no one is my enemy. I do not have to attach myself to a vast population that shares "my" religion and consequently have to hate whoever they hate and be against whoever they feel has wronged them. Religious books tell me (depending on the religion) not to eat bacon, mix wool with linen, cut my hair, accept blood donations, or some other gibberish -- while I have never learned anything about morality itself from a religious book that I did not already know thanks to being human. I am free to be a good person based on my own rationality and conscience, and am thus free from absurd and completely artificial expressions of religious morality. Being virtuous has nothing to do with refusing to cut your hair, wearing a turban, carrying around a dagger or praying at the gurdwara. I am shocked at how religious people can think that a decent life on earth requires so much arcane complication and symbolism and ritual. That thread was full of people who probably did all of these things, yet lacked any common sense or true morality.

There is NO such thing as prophethood or revelation -- how can anyone think that God would reveal himself to ONE person like a guru or a prophet, and then simply leave billions of other human beings to be convinced or not convinced by the prophet's preaching? All the Sikh Gurus combined, know as much as I do about God -- and that is as much as the Pope of Rome, the Grand Mufti of Saudi Arabia, or the President of the Mormon Church knows -- NOTHING. Your revelations, miracles, prayers -- are all stories in an extremely well-written book of poetry, like the Bible and the Qur'an.

The Sikhs I have met in real life seem very little like the ones in the thread. They were humble, polite, well-spoken, not dogmatic in the least, always inviting me to gurdwara for this or that although I avoid all places of worship -- but it seems religious and committed Sikhs are just as bad as really committed Muslims or really committed Hindus. We all need to GROW UP. If I tell you I'm Muslim and you tell me I'm Sikh, that's like me saying I believe in Santa Claus while you believe in the Easter Bunny. There may very well be a god -- the universe could not have come from nothing -- but religion is the most powerful fairy tale ever, in that children continue to believe and swear by it until they die of old age, despite not a shred of evidence to support one atom of any religion. I believe India in particular is falling apart because of religion. The trick is not to encourage tolerance or dialogue or anything like that -- that has been tried for thousands of years. The trick is to realize that that holy book you're holding in your hand, whahtever your religion, belongs in a literature class -- it has nothing to do with reality and it's not a replacement for your brain.

Guru Nanaks first teaching was that there is no Hindu or Muslim, and hence no religion. Truth is One, it cannot be confined to a religion, it is All Pervading, the powerhouse of the Universe and the knower of hearts. 

The Gurus knew this, we all know the Truth really deep down, the answers all lie within us, where else did Guru ji get them from if not from God within. 

The Guru taught us to treat others with respect and to respect the freedom of humans to practice what belief they choose.

But they glorified Truth, hence when they  saw someone adding rubbish to it, they called it out. When they did many listened to their own hearts(God) and knew it was the Truth. 

 

 

 

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On 1/2/2017 at 8:41 AM, Guest Enlightenment said:

I just read this five-year-old thread here

and I am amazed and astonished and disgusted at how mind-numbingly low religion can bring people.

This was a post by a 20-year-old Sikh girl who happened to be in a relationship with a Muslim boy. There were absolutely no problems with the relationship -- he was NOT religious, he never spoke badly of her religion, he was very liberal and gentlemanly and encouraged her with her studies and did everything a good boyfriend should do. He was the polar opposite of the stereotype that Sikhs have of Muslims. Yet the girl was so ASHAMED to be in a relationship with a Muslim that she kept the relationship a secret from her family and friends. When she came here, confused and sad and looking for advice -- she was torn to pieces by her co-religionists who called her boyfriend racial slurs like "sullah," accused her of betraying her religion and family and culture, and saying she had cheapened and insulted her entire community because that community would suffer the humiliation of a Muslim boy having one of its women, apparently.

The girl was basically bullied and verbally abused into breaking it off with the boyfriend, who had done absolutely nothing wrong once again, and was blindsided and rewarded for his kindness and open-mindedness and love with a stab in the back. She broke it off with him not because of anything he had done, but because he wasn't good enough for her tyrannical family and fellow Sikhs.

As a nonreligious man with a Muslim family background I can somewhat understand that a really indoctrinated, generalizing Sikh ignorant of history and selective with memory would only remember that Aurangzeb had some guru flayed alive and that the Mughals staged massacres of Sikhs some five centuries ago, and that Muslims allegedly do X and Y and Z to Sikhs today, while of course completely turning a blind eye to any atrocities Sikhs are accused of. Yet still, the fact that such an ironfisted hatred can coexist with an average human IQ is baffling.

Me, on the other hand -- I have NO religion. I cast mine off long ago. Why do I need a faith? What does a religious person have in their mind and spirit that I do not -- and what mistakes or sins do I commit that a religious person doesn't? I hate no one, no one is my enemy. I do not have to attach myself to a vast population that shares "my" religion and consequently have to hate whoever they hate and be against whoever they feel has wronged them. Religious books tell me (depending on the religion) not to eat bacon, mix wool with linen, cut my hair, accept blood donations, or some other gibberish -- while I have never learned anything about morality itself from a religious book that I did not already know thanks to being human. I am free to be a good person based on my own rationality and conscience, and am thus free from absurd and completely artificial expressions of religious morality. Being virtuous has nothing to do with refusing to cut your hair, wearing a turban, carrying around a dagger or praying at the gurdwara. I am shocked at how religious people can think that a decent life on earth requires so much arcane complication and symbolism and ritual. That thread was full of people who probably did all of these things, yet lacked any common sense or true morality.

There is NO such thing as prophethood or revelation -- how can anyone think that God would reveal himself to ONE person like a guru or a prophet, and then simply leave billions of other human beings to be convinced or not convinced by the prophet's preaching? All the Sikh Gurus combined, know as much as I do about God -- and that is as much as the Pope of Rome, the Grand Mufti of Saudi Arabia, or the President of the Mormon Church knows -- NOTHING. Your revelations, miracles, prayers -- are all stories in an extremely well-written book of poetry, like the Bible and the Qur'an.

The Sikhs I have met in real life seem very little like the ones in the thread. They were humble, polite, well-spoken, not dogmatic in the least, always inviting me to gurdwara for this or that although I avoid all places of worship -- but it seems religious and committed Sikhs are just as bad as really committed Muslims or really committed Hindus. We all need to GROW UP. If I tell you I'm Muslim and you tell me I'm Sikh, that's like me saying I believe in Santa Claus while you believe in the Easter Bunny. There may very well be a god -- the universe could not have come from nothing -- but religion is the most powerful fairy tale ever, in that children continue to believe and swear by it until they die of old age, despite not a shred of evidence to support one atom of any religion. I believe India in particular is falling apart because of religion. The trick is not to encourage tolerance or dialogue or anything like that -- that has been tried for thousands of years. The trick is to realize that that holy book you're holding in your hand, whatever your religion, belongs in a literature class -- it has nothing to do with reality and it's not a replacement for your brain.

Guru sahib has no hate to anyone and due to this his gursikhs shouldnt have hate towards anyone. 

When it comes down to it the girl can do whatever she wants, however I have come across uncountable cases like this someone comes along, shows a little bit of attention to the girl, spoiles her with gifts to win her over. Next thing you know the girl is either on drugs getting pimped out or been flown out to Pakistan. I have perosnally witnessed pakistani males wearing a kara, going by a sikh name to pull our girls. The reason why so many advise against these relationships is because they have seen first hand the outcomes. They are not good.

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2 hours ago, Lionesswoman said:

Guru Nanaks first teaching was that there is no Hindu or Muslim, and hence no religion. Truth is One, it cannot be confined to a religion, it is All Pervading, the powerhouse of the Universe and the knower of hearts. 

The Gurus knew this, we all know the Truth really deep down, the answers all lie within us, where else did Guru ji get them from if not from God within. 

The Guru taught us to treat others with respect and to respect the freedom of humans to practice what belief they choose.

But they glorified Truth, hence when they  saw someone adding rubbish to it, they called it out. When they did many listened to their own hearts(God) and knew it was the Truth. 

 

 

 

Wjkk Wjkkf Bhenji

Agreed the truth is not confined to a certain religion and it is within us all! But only Satguru Ji can reavel this truth within us.....

ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਹਥਿ ਕੁੰਜੀ ਹੋਰਤੁ ਦਰੁ ਖੁਲੈ ਨਾਹੀ ਗੁਰੁ ਪੂਰੈ ਭਾਗਿ ਮਿਲਾਵਣਿਆ ॥੭॥ 

The key is in the hands of the True Guru; no one else can open this door. By perfect destiny, He is met. ||7||

Dhan is our Guru! Dhan Dhan Dhan!

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15 hours ago, S1ngh said:

You are the same person as of who posted this Original Thread. IP address matches. :nosee:

This! +100

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