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WJKK WJKF,

couldn't help but catch up with Jagowale vs Dhadrianwale

and realised many people dislike taksalis, calling them aggressive, illogical, "hot-minded".

 

Has this become a general trend? Seems people prefer to follow the professors/"khalsa" from colleges, following SGPC's maryada (won't call it Akal Thakat Maryada)

 

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1 hour ago, Khalistanisinghni said:

WJKK WJKF,

couldn't help but catch up with Jagowale vs Dhadrianwale

and realised many people dislike taksalis, calling them aggressive, illogical, "hot-minded".

 

Has this become a general trend? Seems people prefer to follow the professors/"khalsa" from colleges, following SGPC's maryada (won't call it Akal Thakat Maryada)

 

there are some who are being illogical and also aggressive to specific people e.g. Dhumma, Ajnala, Jagowale All badmouthing Dhadrianwale this came after Dhadrianwale called Dhumma a sarkari sant because of the way he has been acting in relation to Badal /RSS people  (compliant and servile) which is open for all to see. Then a murder plot was hatched against Dhadrianwale because apparently questioning Dhumma is equivalent to attacking the Taksal. IT'S NOT   the Taksal is Guru ji's creation to stand for all time whereas this guy is not.

This is the starting point of the attack on Dhadrianwale's parchaar:

Dhadrianwale survived but unfortunately another parcharik Singh was killed ... so Dhumma started justifying the attack instead of condemning  it as the anti-sikh activity it is  bhraa-maar.

This was organised by a group of Fanboys in the Taksal at the constant twisting of words of Dhumma , if this was tried in London Dhumma would be done for conspiracy by inciting criminal acts. 

Now we have Ajnala standing up in Hazoori of Guru ji and speaking all sorts of rubbish about Dhadrianwale - about how he soiled himself etc etc. foul language was used . 

No response from Dhadrianwale in the negative,but due to sangat pressure came online to apologise:

lately Dhadrianwale did this parchaar:

 

For which Lately, Ajnala has been taking his gang of saathis to extract an apology from Dhadrianwale by blocking Parmeshvar Dwar , sounds more like mafia tactics than sitting down calmly and doing vichar , finding a solution. Then these two videos came out :

 

 

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6 hours ago, jkvlondon said:

there are some who are being illogical and also aggressive to specific people e.g. Dhumma, Ajnala, Jagowale All badmouthing Dhadrianwale this came after Dhadrianwale called Dhumma a sarkari sant because of the way he has been acting in relation to Badal /RSS people  (compliant and servile) which is open for all to see. Then a murder plot was hatched against Dhadrianwale because apparently questioning Dhumma is equivalent to attacking the Taksal. IT'S NOT   the Taksal is Guru ji's creation to stand for all time whereas this guy is not.

This is the starting point of the attack on Dhadrianwale's parchaar:

Dhadrianwale survived but unfortunately another parcharik Singh was killed ... so Dhumma started justifying the attack instead of condemning  it as the anti-sikh activity it is  bhraa-maar.

This was organised by a group of Fanboys in the Taksal at the constant twisting of words of Dhumma , if this was tried in London Dhumma would be done for conspiracy by inciting criminal acts. 

Now we have Ajnala standing up in Hazoori of Guru ji and speaking all sorts of rubbish about Dhadrianwale - about how he soiled himself etc etc. foul language was used . 

No response from Dhadrianwale in the negative,but due to sangat pressure came online to apologise:

lately Dhadrianwale did this parchaar:

 

For which Lately, Ajnala has been taking his gang of saathis to extract an apology from Dhadrianwale by blocking Parmeshvar Dwar , sounds more like mafia tactics than sitting down calmly and doing vichar , finding a solution. Then these two videos came out :

 

 

Bhai Ajnala is actually not lying about the whole issue of being soiled but he is not with dhumma, he disagreed clearly with the way they attacked on dhadrianwale.

at the same time, dhadrianwale has the duty to not let manmat be influenced into their parchar. They have been quoting sgpc sources and sources from "Mahinder singh josh" who is anti Dasam granth's charitaropkyan and has destructed great deals of history.

Together, none of the parties are correct, wrong in their own ways and both seem to be the puppets of Badalsss 

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15 minutes ago, Khalistanisinghni said:

Bhai Ajnala is actually not lying about the whole issue of being soiled but he is not with dhumma, he disagreed clearly with the way they attacked on dhadrianwale.

at the same time, dhadrianwale has the duty to not let manmat be influenced into their parchar. They have been quoting sgpc sources and sources from "Mahinder singh josh" who is anti Dasam granth's charitaropkyan and has destructed great deals of history.

Together, none of the parties are correct, wrong in their own ways and both seem to be the puppets of Badalsss 

Dhadrianwale has consistently been besieged and harassed by punjab police during all major events whilst Badal was in charge, he is plain speaking and does call out people with dodgy behaviour . He was the only one to speak up for Jaswinder Singh and his brother who were falsely blamed for the beadbhi of Guru ji.

Ajnala started off OK dealing with beadbhi issues etc but since he was placed as Jathedar I haven't seen him doing anything in a positive light , just being 'salty' to others. I would have thought he would have more power to his elbow to get the Beadbhi stopped.

Why Taksali brothers are being this way is not clear , they should be able to resolve the issues peaceably and in a civilised manner .

 

 

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18 minutes ago, KhoonKaBadlaKhoon said:

How do you know he pissed himself? Were you there? Or did someone there reveal this?

This was a really below the belt strike at a fellow gursikh , when he should have been denouncing the attack and the disrespect to the maryada of chabeel , he shamelessly carried on like this instead of thinking about the feelings of The Dead SIngh's family. So Bad ... 

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27 minutes ago, jkvlondon said:

Dhadrianwale has consistently been besieged and harassed by punjab police during all major events whilst Badal was in charge, he is plain speaking and does call out people with dodgy behaviour . He was the only one to speak up for Jaswinder Singh and his brother who were falsely blamed for the beadbhi of Guru ji.

Dhadrianwale and panthpreet sinh set up the Sikh protestors when the police opened fire on the Sikh protesters.  Dhadrianwale and panthpreet hopped in police vehicles and were taken to safety by the police.  These two lead the Sikh protesters to be slaughtered.

Dhadrianwale is a sheep.

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6 minutes ago, Akalifauj said:

Dhadrianwale and panthpreet sinh set up the Sikh protestors when the police opened fire on the Sikh protesters.  Dhadrianwale and panthpreet hopped in police vehicles and were taken to safety by the police.  These two lead the Sikh protesters to be slaughtered.

Dhadrianwale is a sheep.

honestly so many are shady I've given up on them all and decided that only Guru ji is worth listening to , they are all driving the panth off the edge with their scheming and arguments ... 

I only knew about the thing now because someone posted it on my feed , frankly the sooner we get rid of single jathedar and replaced with Panj SInghs of high avasta at each takht the better. This mess just makes people reluctant to get more involved in sikhi because if the amritdhari people are so low-down no holds barred fighting all the time what's the point ?

BTW Panthpreet always set the hairs on my neck on edge, serious bad energy ...the eyes say it all

Ranjit is too concerned with his image ... 

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2 minutes ago, jkvlondon said:

honestly so many are shady I've given up on them all and decided that only Guru ji is worth listening to , they are all driving the panth off the edge with their scheming and arguments ... 

I only knew about the thing now because someone posted it on my feed , frankly the sooner we get rid of single jathedar and replaced with Panj SInghs of high avasta at each takht the better. This mess just makes people reluctant to get more involved in sikhi because if the amritdhari people are so low-down no holds barred fighting all the time what's the point ?

The concept of not airing one's dirty laundry in public is alien to these people. These are meant to be our spiritual betters! And it's being played out online for that sweet YouTube money. 💰  How much more do they need? 

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1 hour ago, jkvlondon said:

Dhadrianwale has consistently been besieged and harassed by punjab police during all major events whilst Badal was in charge, he is plain speaking and does call out people with dodgy behaviour . He was the only one to speak up for Jaswinder Singh and his brother who were falsely blamed for the beadbhi of Guru ji.

Ajnala started off OK dealing with beadbhi issues etc but since he was placed as Jathedar I haven't seen him doing anything in a positive light , just being 'salty' to others. I would have thought he would have more power to his elbow to get the Beadbhi stopped.

Why Taksali brothers are being this way is not clear , they should be able to resolve the issues peaceably and in a civilised manner .

 

 

Agreed 

 

but after the beadbi his parchar changed and he started sounding like panthpreet. Perhaps because he supported dhadrianwale.

 

at the same time, the actions a few "taksalis" has altered the image and reputation of the other in punjab and outside. 

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4 hours ago, jkvlondon said:

 

I only knew about the thing now because someone posted it on my feed , frankly the sooner we get rid of single jathedar and replaced with Panj SInghs of high avasta at each takht the better. This mess just makes people reluctant to get more involved in sikhi because if the amritdhari people are so low-down no holds barred fighting all the time what's the point ?

I see this suggestion thrown around a lot on this, "just have the panj instead" in this institute or that.  But, we can't pick or agree on one Singh who is genuine and of high avasta, so how will we get five?! Why is everyone so convinced that these panj will be perfect? 

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5 hours ago, KhoonKaBadlaKhoon said:

I see this suggestion thrown around a lot on this, "just have the panj instead" in this institute or that.  But, we can't pick or agree on one Singh who is genuine and of high avasta, so how will we get five?! Why is everyone so convinced that these panj will be perfect? 

with panj you will automatically have to have consensus of opinion and they are more likely to Fear Guru ji's wrath for any wrongdoing, one Singh cannot strong arm four others into anything they would have to do vichar on the matters in front of them, and where one forgets about effects of decisions others can remind . 

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Ajnala Singhs should not be associated with Dhumma group.

As for Dandrianwala, Talvinder Singh Patarkar sums it up pretty well.

ਅੱਜ ਦਾ ਪੰਥਕ ਮੁੱਦਾ ਕੀ ਹੈ?
ਗੁਰੂ ਸਾਹਿਬਾਨ ਨੇ ਭੋਰਿਆਂ 'ਚ ਬੰਦਗੀ ਕੀਤੀ ਸੀ ਜਾਂ ਨਹੀਂ, ਨਾਨਕਸ਼ਾਹੀ ਕੈਲੰਡਰ ਹੋਣਾ ਚਾਹੀਦੈ ਜਾਂ ਬਿਕ੍ਰਮੀ, ਦਸਮ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਪੜ੍ਹਨਾ ਚਾਹੀਦੈ ਜਾਂ ਨਹੀਂ, ਅੱਜ ਦੀ ਘੜੀ ਇਨ੍ਹਾਂ ਮੁੱਦਿਆਂ ਨੂੰ ਲੈ ਕੇ ਬੇਵਜ੍ਹਾ ਝਗੜੇ 'ਚ ਪੈਣ ਦੀ ਲੋੜ ਨਹੀਂ ਹੈ। ਇਸ ਵੇਲੇ ਪੰਥ ਦਾ ਤਰਜੀਹੀ ਤੇ ਚਿੰਤਾਜਨਕ ਮੁੱਦਾ ਹੈ ਆਪਣੀ ਨਸਲ ਨੂੰ ਬਚਾਉਣਾ। ਪੰਜਾਬ 'ਚ ਇਸ ਵੇਲੇ ਅਣਦਿਸਦੀ ਨਸਲਕੁਸ਼ੀ ਚੱਲ ਰਹੀ ਹੈ। ਪੰਜਾਬ ਜ਼ਹਿਰ ਉਗਾ ਰਿਹਾ ਹੈ ਤੇ ਮੌਤ ਵੰਡ ਰਿਹਾ ਹੈ। ਕੀ ਇਸ ਵੱਲ ਸਿੱਖਾਂ ਨੂੰ ਕੋਈ ਖਿਆਲ-ਫਿਕਰ ਹੈ?
ਦੇਸ਼ ਦੀ ਕੁੱਲ ਭੋਂਇ ਦਾ ਮਹਿਜ਼ ਸਵਾ ਫ਼ੀਸਦੀ ਹਿੱਸਾ ਪੰਜਾਬ 'ਚ ਮੁਲਕ 'ਚ ਵਰਤੀਆਂ ਜਾਂਦੀਆਂ ਕੀਟਨਾਸ਼ਕ ਜ਼ਹਿਰਾਂ ਦਾ 19 ਫ਼ੀਸਦੀ ਵਰਤਿਆ ਜਾ ਰਿਹਾ ਹੈ। ਮੋਹਾਲੀ ਤੋਂ ਅੱਗੇ ਚੰਡੀਗੜ੍ਹ ਦੇ ਲੋਕ ਹੀ ਪੰਜਾਬ ਦਾ ਕਣਕ-ਚੌਲ ਖਰੀਦਣ ਤੋਂ ਇਨਕਾਰੀ ਹਨ। ਮੁਨਾਫ਼ੇ ਦੀ ਅੰਨ੍ਹੀ ਦੌੜ 'ਚ ਪੰਜਾਬ 'ਚ ਸਬਜ਼ੀਆਂ, ਫ਼ਲਾਂ, ਦੁੱਧ, ਪਾਣੀ...ਗੱਲ ਕੀ ਹਵਾ 'ਚ ਵੀ ਜ਼ਹਿਰ ਭੁੱਕ ਦਿੱਤੀ ਗਈ ਹੈ। ਫ਼ਲਸਰੂਪ ਪੰਜਾਬ ਸਿਵਿਆਂ ਦੀ ਧਰਤੀ ਬਣਦਾ ਜਾ ਰਿਹਾ ਹੈ। ਇਕੱਲੇ ਕੈਂਸਰ ਕਾਰਨ ਰੋਜ਼ਾਨਾ ਪੰਜਾਬ 'ਚ 18 ਸਿਵੇ ਇਕੱਠੇ ਬਲ ਰਹੇ ਹਨ। ਦਿਲ ਦੇ ਰੋਗ, ਕੈਂਸਰ, ਅਧਰੰਗ, ਅਪੰਗਤਾ, ਕੋਹੜ, ਦਮਾ, ਸ਼ੂਗਰ, ਬਲੱਡ-ਪ੍ਰੈਸ਼ਰ, ਫ਼ੇਫੜਿਆਂ ਦਾ ਖਰਾਬ ਹੋਣਾ, ਬਾਂਝਪਣ, ਨਾਮਰਦੀ ਅਤੇ ਅਨੇਕਾਂ ਪ੍ਰਕਾਰ ਦੇ ਹੋਰ ਗੰਭੀਰ ਲਾਇਲਾਜ ਰੋਗਾਂ ਨੇ ਪੰਜਾਬੀਆਂ ਨੂੰ ਬੁਰੀ ਤਰ੍ਹਾਂ ਘੇਰ ਲਿਆ ਹੈ। ਪੰਜਾਬ 'ਚ  ਵਗ ਰਹੀ ਇਹ ਜ਼ਹਿਰੀਲੀ ਲੂਅ ਜੇਕਰ ਸਮਾਂ ਰਹਿੰਦਿਆਂ ਨਾ ਰੁਕੀ ਤਾਂ ਆਉਂਦੇ 20 ਸਾਲ ਨੂੰ ਪੰਜਾਬ ਦੀ ਧਰਤੀ 'ਤੇ ਹਿਜੜੇ ਜੰਮਣਗੇ। ਦੁਨੀਆ 'ਚ ਆਪਣੀ ਸੂਰਬੀਰਤਾ, ਮਰਦਾਨਗੀ ਤੇ ਇਖਲਾਕ ਕਰਕੇ ਲੋਹਾ ਮੰਨਵਾਉਣ ਵਾਲੇ ਪੰਜਾਬੀ ਹੁਣ ਬੱਚੇ ਜੰਮਣ ਤੋਂ ਵੀ ਆਹਰੀ ਹੋ ਗਏ ਹਨ। ਸਿਹਤ ਮਾਹਰ ਚਿਤਾਵਨੀ ਦੇ ਰਹੇ ਹਨ ਕਿ ਪੰਜਾਬੀਆਂ ਦਾ ਸਪਰਮ ਕਾਉਂਟ 60 ਮਿਲੀਅਨ ਤੋਂ ਘੱਟ ਕੇ ਸਿਰਫ਼ 15 ਮਿਲੀਅਨ ਰਹਿ ਗਿਆ ਹੈ।
ਦੁਨੀਆ ਦੇ ਕੁੱਲ 3 ਕਰੋੜ ਸਿੱਖਾਂ ਵਿਚੋਂ ਜੇਕਰ 50% ਸਿੱਖ ਵੀ ਪੰਜਾਬ 'ਚ ਵੱਸਦੇ ਹਨ ਤਾਂ ਡੇਢ ਕਰੋੜ ਸਿੱਖ ਸਿੱਧੇ ਸਿੱਧੇ ਇਸ ਵੇਲੇ ਅਣਦਿਸਦੀ ਨਸਲਕੁਸ਼ੀ ਦੀ ਭੇਟ ਚੜ੍ਹ ਰਹੇ ਹਨ। ਕੀ ਇਹ ਇਸ ਵੇਲੇ ਸਿੱਖ ਹੋਂਦ ਦਾ ਸਭ ਤੋਂ ਚਿੰਤਾਜਨਕ ਅਤੇ ਗੰਭੀਰ ਮੁੱਦਾ ਨਹੀਂ? ਰਸੂਲ ਹਮਜ਼ਾਤੋਵ ਲਿਖਦਾ ਹੈ ਕਿ, ਜਿਹੜਾ ਆਪਣੀ ਨਸਲ ਦੀ ਚਿੰਤਾ ਨਹੀਂ ਕਰਦਾ, ਉਸ ਦੀ ਦੁਨੀਆ ਪ੍ਰਤੀ ਕੀਤੀ ਚਿੰਤਾ ਕਿਸੇ ਲੇਖੇ ਨਹੀਂ। ਫ਼ੇਰ ਸਭ ਤੋਂ ਭਾਰੇ ਫ਼ਿਕਰ ਨੂੰ ਛੱਡ ਕੇ ਐਵੇਂ ਅਜਿਹੇ ਵਾਦ-ਵਿਵਾਦ ਖੜ੍ਹੇ ਕਰਨੇ ਤੇ ਹਾਲ- ਪਾਹਰਿਆ ਕਰਨੀ, ਜਿਸ ਨਾਲ ਸਾਡਾ ਬੌਧਿਕ ਪੱਧਰ, ਕੁਦਰਤ ਪ੍ਰਤੀ ਸੰਵੇਦਨਹੀਣਤਾ ਅਤੇ ਸਮੂਹਿਕ ਸਿਆਣਪ ਦੁਨੀਆ ਲਈ ਮਜ਼ਾਕ ਤੇ ਗਿਲਾਨੀ ਦਾ ਵਿਸ਼ਾ ਬਣ ਜਾਵੇ, ਕਿੱਥੋਂ ਦੀ ਸਿਆਣਪ ਹੈ। ਕੀ ਕਿਸੇ 'ਤੱਤ ਗੁਰਮਤਿ' ਦੇ ਅਲੰਬਰਦਾਰ ਨੇ, ਕਿਸੇ ਫ਼ੀ-ਜ਼ਮਾਨਾ ਗੁਰਮਤਿ ਇਨਕਲਾਬੀ ਨੇ, ਕਿਸੇ ਅਜੋਕੇ ਸੰਤ-ਬਾਬੇ ਨੇ ਕਦੇ ਇਹ ਪ੍ਰਚਾਰ ਕੀਤਾ ਕਿ ਸਿੱਖੋ! ਆਪਣੇ ਹੱਥੀਂ ਆਪਣੀਆਂ ਨਸਲਾਂ ਨੂੰ ਜ਼ਹਿਰ ਉਗਾ ਕੇ ਨਾ ਖਵਾਓ। ਲੱਖਾਂ ਲੋਕਾਂ ਨੂੰ ਕੇਸ ਰਖਾ ਕੇ, ਅੰਮ੍ਰਿਤਧਾਰੀ ਬਣਾਉਣ ਦੇ ਦਾਅਵੇ ਕਰਨ ਵਾਲੇ ਜ਼ਰਾ ਦੱਸਣ ਖਾਂ ਕਿ ਉਨ੍ਹਾਂ ਨੇ ਕਿੰਨੇ ਸਿੱਖਾਂ ਨੂੰ ਵੱਧ ਝਾੜ ਤੇ ਵੱਧ ਮੁਨਾਫ਼ੇ ਦੇ ਲਾਲਚ 'ਚ ਫ਼ਸਲਾਂ, ਸਬਜ਼ੀਆਂ 'ਚ ਅੰਨ੍ਹੇਵਾਹ ਜ਼ਹਿਰ ਭੁੱਕਣੋ ਰੋਕਿਆ ਹੈ, ਕਿੰਨੇ ਸਿੱਖ-ਦੋਧੀਆਂ ਨੂੰ ਟੀਕੇ ਲਾ ਕੇ ਮੱਝਾਂ ਦਾ ਦੁੱਧ ਚੋਣ, ਸਰਫ਼, ਯੂਰੀਆ ਤੇ ਸ਼ੈਂਪੂਆਂ ਨਾਲ ਨਕਲੀ ਦੁੱਧ ਬਣਾ ਕੇ ਬਾਜ਼ਾਰ ਵੇਚਣ ਤੋਂ ਰੋਕਿਆ ਹੈ? ਕਿੰਨਿਆਂ ਨੇ ਪੰਜਾਬ ਦੀ ਆਬੋ-ਹਵਾ ਦੀ ਸੁਰੱਖਿਆ ਲਈ ਲੋਕਾਂ ਨੂੰ ਵੱਧ ਤੋਂ ਵੱਧ ਪ੍ਰਕਿਰਤੀ ਦੀ ਸਾਂਭ-ਸੰਭਾਲ ਕਰਨੀ ਸਿਖਾੲੀ? ਦੂਜਿਆਂ ਨੂੰ ਕਿਰਤ ਕਰਨ ਦਾ ਸੁਨੇਹਾ ਦੇਣ ਵਾਲੇ ਕਿੰਨੇ ਸੰਤ-ਬਾਬੇ ਖੁਦ ਹੱਥੀਂ ਕਿਰਤ ਕਰਕੇ ਰੋਟੀ ਖਾਂਦੇ ਹਨ? ਕਲਗੀਧਰ ਪਾਤਿਸ਼ਾਹ ਨੇ ਤਾਂ ਕਿਰਤ ਵਿਹੂਣੇ ਕੂਲੇ-ਸੋਹਲ ਹੱਥਾਂ ਤੋਂ ਜਲ ਛਕਣ ਤੋਂ ਨਾਂਹ ਕਰ ਦਿੱਤੀ ਸੀ ਤੇ ਅਨੰਦਪੁਰ ਦਾ ਕਿਲ੍ਹਾ ਛੱਡਣ ਤੋਂ ਬਾਅਦ ਗੁਰੂ ਘਰ ਦਾ ਚੜ੍ਹਤ-ਚੜ੍ਹਾਵੇ ਦਾ ਸਾਰਾ ਧਨ ਸਰਸਾ ਨਦੀ 'ਚ ਰੋੜ੍ਹ ਦਿੱਤਾ ਸੀ ਕਿ ਮੈਂ ਇਹ ਜ਼ਹਿਰ ਆਪਣੇ ਖ਼ਾਲਸਾ ਪੁੱਤਰ ਨੂੰ ਨਹੀਂ ਖਵਾ ਸਕਦਾ। ਇੱਧਰ ਅੱਜ ਦਸਵੰਧ ਦੀ ਮਾਇਆ ਨਾਲ ਡੇਢ-ਡੇਢ ਕਰੋੜੀ ਮਹਿੰਗੀਆਂ ਗੱਡੀਆਂ, ਮਹਿਲਾਂ, ਸਵੀਮਿੰਗ ਪੂਲਾਂ 'ਚ ਤੇ ਏ.ਸੀ. ਵਾਲੇ ਲਗਜ਼ਰੀ ਕਮਰਿਆਂ 'ਚ ਰਹਿਣ ਦੇ ਆਦੀ ਮਹਾਂਪੁਰਖ-ਭਾਈ ਪੰਥ ਨੂੰ 'ਤੱਤ ਗੁਰਮਤੀ' ਬਣਾਉਣ ਦੀਆਂ ਕਿੰਜ ਡੀਗਾਂ ਮਾਰ ਰਹੇ ਹਨ? ਇਹ ਕਹਿਣ ਵਾਲੇ ਮੇਰੇ ਵੀਰ-ਭਾਈ ਕਿ, ਸ੍ਰੀ ਗੁਰੂ ਤੇਗ ਬਹਾਦਰ ਸਾਹਿਬ ਜੀ ਨੇ 26 ਸਾਲ ਭੋਰੇ 'ਚ ਬੰਦਗੀ ਨਹੀਂ ਕੀਤੀ ਸੀ, ਇਹ ਅਮਲ ਤੇ ਪ੍ਰਚਾਰ ਕਰਨ ਦੀ ਸ਼ਿੱਦਤ ਕਿਉਂ ਮਹਿਸੂਸ ਨਹੀਂ ਕਰ ਰਹੇ ਕਿ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਗੁਰੂ ਨਾਨਕ ਦੇਵ ਜੀ ਨੇ ਕਰਤਾਰਪੁਰ ਦੀ ਧਰਤੀ 'ਤੇ 17 ਸਾਲ ਰਹਿ ਕੇ ਖੁਦ ਹੱਥੀਂ ਕਿਰਤ ਕੀਤੀ ਤੇ ਫ਼ਿਰ ਆਪਣੇ ਸਿੱਖਾਂ ਨੂੰ ਕਿਰਤ ਕਰਨ ਦਾ ਉਪਦੇਸ਼ ਦਿੱਤਾ ਸੀ। ਸਿਰਫ ਸੋਹਣੇ ਉਪਦੇਸ਼ ਦੇਣ ਵਾਲਿਆਂ 'ਤੇ ਰੀਝਣ ਤੋਂ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ ਸਾਨੂੰ ਯਾਦ ਰੱਖਣਾ ਚਾਹੀਦਾ ਹੈ ਕਿ, ਅੰਦਰੂਨੀ ਅਨੁਭਵ ਤੋਂ ਬਗੈਰ, ਆਤਮਿਕ ਸਹਿਜ, ਅਨੰਦ ਤੇ ਟਿਕਾਓ ਮਿਲਣ ਤੋਂ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ, ਦੂਜਿਆਂ ਨੂੰ ਉਪਦੇਸ਼ ਦੇਣੇ, ਪਰ ਖੁਦ ਨਾ ਕਮਾਉਣੇ, ਉਪਦੇਸ਼ ਦੇ ਦੇ ਕੇ ਢਿੱਡ ਪਾਲਣ ਵਾਲੇ ਪ੍ਰਚਾਰਕ ਗੁਰਮਤਿ ਵਿਚ ਪ੍ਰਵਾਨ ਨਹੀਂ, ਯਥਾ ਗੁਰਬਾਣੀ ; ''ਕਬੀਰ ਅਵਰਹ ਕਉ ਉਪਦੇਸਤੇ ਮੁਖ ਮੈ ਪਰਿ ਹੈ ਰੇਤੁ।।ਰਾਸਿ ਬਿਰਾਨੀ ਰਾਖਤੇ ਖਾਯਾ ਘਰ ਕਾ ਖੇਤੁ।।"
- ਤਲਵਿੰਦਰ ਸਿੰਘ ਬੁੱਟਰ (ਪੱਤਰਕਾਰ)

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On 27/03/2017 at 1:24 PM, Khalistanisinghni said:

Bhai Ajnala is actually not lying about the whole issue of being soiled 

You've yet to answer me, don't throw huge allegations like that around with 0 evidence. 

20 hours ago, jkvlondon said:

with panj you will automatically have to have consensus of opinion and they are more likely to Fear Guru ji's wrath for any wrongdoing, one Singh cannot strong arm four others into anything they would have to do vichar on the matters in front of them, and where one forgets about effects of decisions others can remind . 

But again I ask, we can't find a single Sikh that has fear of Guru Ji in him to lead our institutions, how will we find 5 who will somehow automatically have consensus and do good by the people? Punjabis have been picking corrupt people for decades now, they'll manage to pick 5 more people who are deep down correct to be the panj. The people yet don't deserve any good leaders. Fools. 

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