Sikh community in Connecticut run unique Vaisakhi billboard campaign

[BhForce]

Note that the first time you said it, you didn't use "these":

23 hours ago, Akalifauj said:

Punjabis need to stop oppressing Sikhs true identity.   

You said it like you're not a Punjabi yourself.

Just using "these" doesn't mean you're not promoting hatred towards an ethnic group. You can commonly hear racists saying stuff like "these black people are out of control!".

[BhForce]

You still have not responded to my post above. While it certainly Sikh maryada to cover your hair, the fact is the lady in the picture accurately represents upwards of 90% of our people. I may not like that, but it's still a fact. Only a minority of Sikhs are Amritdhari. Of those a vast majority of women don't wear a turban. Just guessing here, but I'd say 85% of non-turban Amritdhari women are hair-uncovered (except for the Gurdwara) in day-to-day life. A further perhaps 5-10% try to keep chunnies on their heads, while maybe 5-10% are turban-wearing.

Now, if the vast majority of Sikh women covered their heads or wore turbans, it would highly exceptional for the makers of this poster to depict an uncovered women. But they don't, so it's not.

[BhForce]

You also have not responded to my response on the guy's beard: that is apparent that his beard is glued to his faced, but it is not at all apparent he cut his beard.

In fact, you just can't glue a cut beard to your face. It doesn't work. Cut beard hairs stick out like porcupine needles.

If you want to argue that using Fixo is not in accordance with traditional Sikh maryada, that's fine. But please don't slander the guy as patit when you don't have proof for that.

[Guest Jacfsing2]

4 hours ago, BhForce said:

You still have not responded to my post above. While it certainly Sikh maryada to cover your hair, the fact is the lady in the picture accurately represents upwards of 90% of our people. I may not like that, but it's still a fact. Only a minority of Sikhs are Amritdhari. Of those a vast majority of women don't wear a turban. Just guessing here, but I'd say 85% of non-turban Amritdhari women are hair-uncovered (except for the Gurdwara) in day-to-day life. A further perhaps 5-10% try to keep chunnies on their heads, while maybe 5-10% are turban-wearing.

Now, if the vast majority of Sikh women covered their heads or wore turbans, it would highly exceptional for the makers of this poster to depict an uncovered women. But they don't, so it's not.

To be fair with the way education for our people is going isn't it hard for Kaurs who are legitimately trying to find honest answers?

[Akalifauj]

On 11/04/2017 at 8:46 PM, Akalifauj said:

This has nothing to do with who acts in what way.  This poster is about representing Vaisakhi day in an accurate way, objectivity.  Read the poster title in the biggest lettering; HAPPY VAISAKHI. this demonstrates the intent of the poster.  Yet the picture does not represent Vaisakhi at all.  The people who don't know anything about Vaisakhi will not get an accurate picture about Vaisakhi from the pictures depiction.  These punjabis are destroying the image of Sikhs.

@BhForce when you are old enough to understand the above quoted post.  Come back here and explain what Vaisakhi is and what a depiction of Vaisakhi will look like.  If you are capable of doing this task then I will tell you what objectivity means.

[JUSTAJATT]

@Akalifauj  What would we do without you?

You are certainly a pillock of the highest rank

 

 

[MisterrSingh]

I think it's fair to say the Vaisakhi being promoted in the posters is the one that has precedence in crop-gathering, end-of-winter, let's-have-a-drink-and-a-dance version of events. I seriously doubt any of the individuals who created this campaign of awareness wish to confidently explain the religious connotations of Vaisakhi. That's what happens when the followers of a faith gradually begin to eschew their religious beliefs in favour of a watered-down secular existence that makes their lives apparently that much less of a "hassle." Although the guy who's interviewed above is thankfully mentioning the religious aspects, so that's a good thing.

Ultimately, any awareness is a good thing, but I'm not sure I'm pleased about the implied apologetic tone of the campaign. Are Americans really that thick and ignorant that they assume everyone with a beard and turban is out to get them?

[Guest Jacfsing2]

1 hour ago, MisterrSingh said:

I think it's fair to say the Vaisakhi being promoted in the posters is the one that has precedence in crop-gathering, end-of-winter, let's-have-a-drink-and-a-dance version of events. I seriously doubt any of the individuals who created this campaign of awareness wish to confidently explain the religious connotations of Vaisakhi. That's what happens when the followers of a faith gradually begin to eschew their religious beliefs in favour of a watered-down secular existence that makes their lives apparently that much less of a "hassle." Although the guy who's interviewed above is thankfully mentioning the religious aspects, so that's a good thing.

Ultimately, any awareness is a good thing, but I'm not sure I'm pleased about the implied apologetic tone of the campaign. Are Americans really that thick and ignorant that they assume everyone with a beard and turban is out to get them?

Vaisakhi didn't start as a Sikh festival, it started as a Punjabi one. Hindu Punjabis celebrate Vaisakhi as well. This is from Wikipedia: "The first day of Vaisakh marks the traditional solar new year^[45][46] and it is an ancient festival that predates the founding of Sikhism. The harvest is complete and crops ready to sell, representing a time of plenty for the farmers. Fairs and special thanksgiving pujas (prayers) are common in the Hindu tradition.^[9]"

[MisterrSingh]

1 hour ago, Jacfsing2 said:

Vaisakhi didn't start as a Sikh festival, it started as a Punjabi one. Hindu Punjabis celebrate Vaisakhi as well. This is from Wikipedia: "The first day of Vaisakh marks the traditional solar new year^[45][46] and it is an ancient festival that predates the founding of Sikhism. The harvest is complete and crops ready to sell, representing a time of plenty for the farmers. Fairs and special thanksgiving pujas (prayers) are common in the Hindu tradition.^[9]"

In the context of this awareness campaign, it's definitely Vaisakhi in the context of Sikhs, not Hindus. Now if some Sikhs don't like identifying with their religious identity in this particular context, that's entirely their choice.

[Guest Jacfsing2]

5 minutes ago, MisterrSingh said:

In the context of this awareness campaign, it's definitely Vaisakhi in the context of Sikhs, not Hindus. Now if some Sikhs don't like identifying with their religious identity in this particular context, that's entirely their choice.

I was referring to why some people secularize Vaisakhi especially with the whole farming festival repetive things. I don't know how large the Punjabi Hindu Diaspora is but I'm assuming it's fairly large. So being the Quam we are, you know exactly what's going to happen.