accidentaly drank alcohol

[BhForce]

4 hours ago, MisterrSingh said:

Is the logic behind prescribing extra paaths for pesh supposed to eliminate the burden of the transgression? It does make sense if that's the case, otherwise the suggestion is that reciting additional Gurbani is a punishment, which I don't think is quite the right message that should be sent out.

I think the logic, as explained by some kathakars, is that as Guru is bakhshind (willing to forgive), so too are the Akal Takhat and the Panj Piyare bakhshind. So the purpose of tankhah (the word saja--punishment--is not used), is to reform the errant individual. Hence the extra paaths. Also, it makes quite a difference if the person involved became patit through no fault of their own, or willingly transgressed an explicit rule.

 

[Guest Jacfsing2]

On an unrelated note, would someone have to pesh if they were unconscious and their Kesh were removed because someone, (parents usually), decided to save their lives?

[BhForce]

2 minutes ago, Jacfsing2 said:

On an unrelated note, would someone have to pesh if they were unconscious and their Kesh were removed because someone, (parents usually), decided to save their lives?

How would that happen? (How would cutting your hair save your life?)

[Guest Jacfsing2]

2 minutes ago, BhForce said:

How would that happen? (How would cutting your hair save your life?)

Some surgeries require Kesh removal.

[BhForce]

Just now, Jacfsing2 said:

Some surgeries require Kesh removal.

OK, I would just say that it is generally accepted that either if you do a bajjar kurehit, or a bajjar kurehit is done to you, you have go pesh (present yourself before Panj Piyare). They make the determination, and then you're good with the Guru.

Also, "patit" does not mean "paapi" (sinner), it means fallen (people can fall accidentally, too).

[Guest nehkalank]

On 21/5/2017 at 0:34 AM, Guest Guest said:

Amritdhari - party - bar. Words that shouldn't really be in the same paragraph.

don't think so.. too much isolation is the cause of misconceptions...

 

On 21/5/2017 at 0:28 AM, Guest Guest Singh said:

Why didn't you ask for a Coke or Orange juice. No confusion then! 

some bars sell only alcoholic drinks

 

On 21/5/2017 at 6:03 PM, Not2Cool2Argue said:

These questions should be addressed to the panj. Just go to the next amrit sanchaar and admit what happened. And then they will decide if it was wrong , if u have to retake amrit or get punishment. 

That's what the panj is for to resolve questions and doubts

the "panj" these days, unfortunately are not trustworthy, especially in these western countries where probably this dude lives. There are many cases in which the one member from the panj has gossiped the where probably this dude lives. There are many cases in which one member from the panj has gossiped the misdeeds of someone ,,,

[TaksalDaSingh9771]

Agreed ^^^^

[ipledgeblue]

It was accidental, and also have you ever taken medicine that contains alcohol?

[dallysingh101]

On 5/21/2017 at 8:34 PM, Not2Cool2Argue said:

You have to do extra paath or seva. Nowadays punishments are not that severe. In the past, well Mahraja Ranjit singh was ordered to be whipped.then again he did it intentionally

That wasn't for drinking. It was for marrying a Muslim girl. 

[Not2Cool2Argue]

47 minutes ago, dallysingh101 said:

That wasn't for drinking. It was for marrying a Muslim girl. 

Thats true

But i think i wrote that to illustrate that punishments for kurehits used to be severe