Whats the low down in East London

[jkvlondon]

8 hours ago, dallysingh101 said:

Funny how most of the places people have mentioned as going downhill aren't even in East London. If the postcode doesn't start with E - it's not East London. Newbury Park, Barkingside, Gants Hill are Essex. And I guess a lot of people's parents here did the usual 'run to the white suburbs' as soon as made a penny - only to find that whites run off deeper into Essex as a consequence. ha ha!

stop right there , I was born in newham  , lived in poplar until about six years we moved to a larger flat in Hoxton, Hackney, lived in Bethnal Green now Newbury Park ALL of those are considered East London because that's where they are, granted Newbury is Greater London , parts of Hoxton were N1 but they were nowhere near the north Islington etc .my street we lived on n1 and other side was E2...

[Ranjeet01]

There is a pecking order which sets off a chain reaction. Bengalis move into Paki areas which shifts into Indian and Sikh areas which shifts out the goreh.

[Hammertime007]

London has lost its working class identity. 

[dallysingh101]

4 hours ago, jkvlondon said:

stop right there , I was born in newham  , lived in poplar until about six years we moved to a larger flat in Hoxton, Hackney, lived in Bethnal Green now Newbury Park ALL of those are considered East London because that's where they are, granted Newbury is Greater London , parts of Hoxton were N1 but they were nowhere near the north Islington etc .my street we lived on n1 and other side was E2...

Newbury Park, Gants Hill, Barkingside etc. don't even have the feeling of East London and the people who grow up there aren't remotely like eastenders. Simple fact. I have relatives you've grown up there and don't consider themselves as east londoners but rather essex folk. 

I just wonder, when the white cockneys originally 'white flighted' into Essex did some of the original inhabitants there also lament the way they were 'bringing down the neighbourhood'. 

As for the OP, given demographics, trying to run away from sullay is going to be an exercise in futility because there are so many of them. 

[jkvlondon]

15 minutes ago, dallysingh101 said:

Newbury Park, Gants Hill, Barkingside etc. don't even have the feeling of East London and the people who grow up there aren't remotely like eastenders. Simple fact. I have relatives you've grown up there and don't consider themselves as east londoners but rather essex folk. 

I just wonder, when the white cockneys originally 'white flighted' into Essex did some of the original inhabitants there also lament the way they were 'bringing down the neighbourhood'. 

As for the OP, given demographics, trying to run away from sullay is going to be an exercise in futility because there are so many of them. 

i dunno when we moved to hoxton in 75 it felt like newbury back in 99 meaning not overrun with scroungers, musley and the like most of the estate was white working class with real work ethics a few asian families , a few caribeeaan, a few african. The white working class hated dole scroungers with a venegence , a lot of them bought their homes in 80s and stayed therone up until now. We were a recognised family and still are in the old neighbourhood.

They were the type to shop their own if they turned bad, and regularly poured scorn on the dole guys who would drive the latest jags and beemers to the dole office and get out looking like they were beggars for officers. some had history in the location and had family businesses like a proper village.

when the balance changed because of new immigrants from bagladesh, nigeria, gambia, pakistan it changed the closeness   yeah I guess a few whiteys were put out and up sticks ,but most stayed and their kids moved on

[dallysingh101]

People shouldn't 'extend' East London outwards when it doesn't make sense????

And the OP just sounds like snobby whining.

@Big_Tera

If those were the areas your family came up in, you didn't really grow up in East London. You've had it super cushy mate (good for you and your family for that!)

If you had grown up in East London, your growing up experiences are likely to have been radically different to what you actually experienced.   

 

[Big_Tera]

Dally many consider ilford to be east london. It is not exactly 100 miles away from newham is it. 

Also I did live in Newham before going to Barkingside. so I am well aware of the ghetto that newham was and still is in certain parts. Although its improving slightly. 

to be honest ilford has always been a dump. Only good for shopping and the usual food outlets. Whats has happened is all kinds of people from hackney and just about all the deprived areas of newham have moved to ilford and seven kings. This was due to a shortage of council housing inNewham. They did a deal with Redbridge to house all these people. Hence Why the 'riff raff' have now come to Redbridge. They could never afford to come here otherwise. 

Barkingside gants hill has always been a middle class area. 

The biggest change has been north Redbridge. This was a world apart from south Redbridge. 

But sadly unless action is not taken this area will turn into a mini pesharwar to. 

[Big_Tera]

4 hours ago, dallysingh101 said:

Newbury Park, Gants Hill, Barkingside etc. don't even have the feeling of East London and the people who grow up there aren't remotely like eastenders. Simple fact. I have relatives you've grown up there and don't consider themselves as east londoners but rather essex folk. 

I just wonder, when the white cockneys originally 'white flighted' into Essex did some of the original inhabitants there also lament the way they were 'bringing down the neighbourhood'. 

As for the OP, given demographics, trying to run away from sullay is going to be an exercise in futility because there are so many of them. 

No one is running away. Just because you might like living outside a mosque were you can hear the call to prayer. Dont think others want the same. 

I chose to live in an area away from muslims because I dont get on with them or see them as friends. They see all non muslims as infidels so why do you want to mix with them. 

In buisness and in life. I chose to not to mix with the <banned word filter activated>. They dont want to mix with anyone apart from muslims themselves anyway. That is the way it is and that is the way it will always be.

 

 

[dallysingh101]

1 hour ago, Big_Tera said:

No one is running away. Just because you might like living outside a mosque were you can hear the call to prayer. Dont think others want the same. 

I chose to live in an area away from muslims because I dont get on with them or see them as friends. They see all non muslims as infidels so why do you want to mix with them. 

In buisness and in life. I chose to not to mix with the <banned word filter activated>. They dont want to mix with anyone apart from muslims themselves anyway. That is the way it is and that is the way it will always be.

 

 

And that's EXACTLY how you turn into a pu55y. 

Fact is that our people have lived in tonda majority areas and thrived as leaders (before white men showed up). No one is saying (at least not me) that we should crawl up their ar5e. But f**king running off from them like a scared w**ker isn't even a strategy. Wherever the f**k you are, they'll soon turn up - they have numbers for it.  Let's be frank, most of our lot are too dumb and pu55y to put a strong flag down to mark their territory these days.

Oh, and you keep running off with whitey to the burbs. See how long you last before your daughters turn out into brown versions of those 'Faces Nightclub' girls. 

[Big_Tera]

1 hour ago, dallysingh101 said:

And that's EXACTLY how you turn into a pu55y. 

Fact is that our people have lived in tonda majority areas and thrived as leaders (before white men showed up). No one is saying (at least not me) that we should crawl up their ar5e. But f**king running off from them like a scared w**ker isn't even a strategy. Wherever the f**k you are, they'll soon turn up - they have numbers for it.  Let's be frank, most of our lot are too dumb and pu55y to put a strong flag down to mark their territory these days.

Oh, and you keep running off with whitey to the burbs. See how long you last before your daughters turn out into brown versions of those 'Faces Nightclub' girls. 

You seriously need to check your language and attitude. Your acting like a school kid with a foul mouth that needs rinsing with large bar of soap for your own good. 

So your saying we should not aspire to move to bigger and better areas and improve ourselves. Just so you can fufill your hunger at cheap chicken and chip shops and shisha lounges. 

Good luck with representing east london from your computer. You keyboard warrior wannabe thug. 

p.s there is a difference between 'running away from muslims'

and simply moving to a better area that has better schools and houses. 

Maybe you are just jealous of others because you are still stuck where you are while others have become more succesfull and moved on.

Sounds like sour grapes to me.