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Breaking Amrit, Yes or No?

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Guest GuptAmritdhariGirl

Vaheguru jee, 

I'm Amritdhari girl who has fallen for a non-amritdhari (he is a very knowledgeable Sikh who has amazing spiritual knowledge). We are not married but we have done some silly sexual things. *Edited*

Have I broken Amrit..? I feel so crappy at the moment and need some advice. 

Please forgive me! 

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Guest Jacfsing2
6 hours ago, Guest GuptAmritdhariGirl said:

We are not married but we have done some silly sexual things. *Edited

The 4 Kurehits are Halal, Haram, Hukka, and Hajamat (Kesh di Beadbi) sexual relations with another person than your spouse is Haram.

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Um... It depends on how far the silly sexual thing went. Kissing and sexual intercourse, is where germs are being being shared. Sikhs do not give/ take jooth when it comes to food.

So, did you guys kiss? Did he insert himself into you?? If yes to one or both then go pesh!

ANY AMRITDHARI READING THIS! Please do not go now thinking "it ok to do minor sexual stuff b4 marriage!" This is kaam and trishna (contentment) will certainly NOT be fulfilled!

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I think yes you have broken.

Start again today, getting involved sexually is only permitted after marriage(Lawfully wedding marriage).

 

Don't let Kaam (Lust) sway you into these wrong directions. LORD knows you from inside

Pekhatt Sunatt sadaa hn Sangee, Main moorakh janiya doori re.

 

So next time keep distance and convey your this message to your boy to keep distance too, you are supposed to wait till Marriage. After that day you are allowed.

 

Till then Strict No No

 

I also said this thing clearly to my girl too and she being a believer accepted this with great respect 🙂

Rules are rules, dont let kaam destroy your life anymore.

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Guest Ajeet Singh

I did same thing but she was not even sikh and then she left me... kam is very bad thing. Need to retake amrit. That's my advice but I did not retake.

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On 7/3/2017 at 4:47 AM, Guest GuptAmritdhariGirl said:

he is a very knowledgeable Sikh who has amazing spiritual knowledge

Then why was he not aware of kaam and its danger? Why did he not stop himself or yourself from doing the wrong thing? 

Remember that the only true love is for the Lord and all other love is false. 

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6 hours ago, Guest Ajeet Singh said:

I did same thing but she was not even sikh and then she left me... kam is very bad thing. Need to retake amrit. That's my advice but I did not retake.

Thanks for sharing. Everybody out there take heed.

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47 minutes ago, Wicked Warrior said:

Then why was he not aware of kaam and its danger? Why did he not stop himself or yourself from doing the wrong thing? 

Remember that the only true love is for the Lord and all other love is false. 

Exactly. There are a much of these "spiritual" people who can't even keep it in their pants. They are not truly spiritual at all. 

Spiritual means "in relation to the spirit". These people are all about the pleasures of the body.

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53 minutes ago, Wicked Warrior said:

Then why was he not aware of kaam and its danger? Why did he not stop himself or yourself from doing the wrong thing? 

Remember that the only true love is for the Lord and all other love is false. 

Probably dazzled her with pseudo-spirituality and dreamy sounding concepts. They don't truly understand any of it. It's just a very effective way of ensnaring the gullible or people who are desperate for some knowledge or a spiritual experience.

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whether you have broken it or not, it is not appropriate for an Amritdhari- male or female- to even touch another person sexually (except marriage partner and  even then only when both parties consent).

either way, you need to reflect on being an Amritdhari, what it means, what is appropriate behaviour and way of thinking for an Amritdhari. what your duties as one are etc.

you also need to wise up to human nature, your own mind's weaknesses, the deceptive nature of others, etc for your own good and protection

he has 'vast knowledge' but couldn't control his lust around you?  or didn't even know it was inappropriate behaviour?  some people are all talk...

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On 4/23/2019 at 3:45 PM, Guest guest said:

whether you have broken it or not, it is not appropriate for an Amritdhari- male or female- to even touch another person sexually (except marriage partner and  even then only when both parties consent).

I agree with the first part of your statement. Basically, you should not do anything before you are married that you would not want your wife/husband doing if you were married.

The second part (in parentheses) is quite strange. Marriage is consent to be sexual with one another.

"only when both parties consent"? 

Are you seriously stating that you should approach or behave towards your wife like you would with some random woman that you were not married to?

If you go to, whatever, a store, a library, a conference, a workplace, you would obviously not touch a woman in any way. You would only talk with her, and that too, only if required.

You would never walk up behind her, caress her shoulder and say "Hey, how's it going?"

Are you really honestly saying that you want to require Sikh (or even non-Sikh) men to get "consent" before hugging, touching, fondling, or caressing their wives?

What a great marriage that'll be.

What would that be like? "Hello human that I have agreed to live with. Do I have you consent to place my hand on the small of your back?"

"Please sign and date here. I'll need a copy of your driver's license and NH #. And do go to the Notary Public's to have the agreement notarized."

If you are a male, it's quite sorry you've bought into "male feminism". Are you married? And is that how you think marriage works?

If you are a female, I have to question why you think any man would ever want to marry you, if even after committing to caring for you until you die, he still would have no more ability to be sexual with you than any other female in the entire country.

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41 minutes ago, BhForce said:

I agree with the first part of your statement. Basically, you should not do anything before you are married that you would not want your wife/husband doing if you were married.

The second part (in parentheses) is quite strange. Marriage is consent to be sexual with one another.

"only when both parties consent"? 

Are you seriously stating that you should approach or behave towards your wife like you would with some random woman that you were not married to?

If you go to, whatever, a store, a library, a conference, a workplace, you would obviously not touch a woman in any way. You would only talk with her, and that too, only if required.

You would never walk up behind her, caress her shoulder and say "Hey, how's it going?"

Are you really honestly saying that you want to require Sikh (or even non-Sikh) men to get "consent" before hugging, touching, fondling, or caressing their wives?

What a great marriage that'll be.

What would that be like? "Hello human that I have agreed to live with. Do I have you consent to place my hand on the small of your back?"

"Please sign and date here. I'll need a copy of your driver's license and NH #. And do go to the Notary Public's to have the agreement notarized."

If you are a male, it's quite sorry you've bought into "male feminism". Are you married? And is that how you think marriage works?

If you are a female, I have to question why you think any man would ever want to marry you, if even after committing to caring for you until you die, he still would have no more ability to be sexual with you than any other female in the entire country.

 

You make it sound like marital rape isn't a thing..it is.

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7 hours ago, Guest Realist said:

You make it sound like marital rape isn't a thing..it is.

You answered 12 paragraphs/sentences with 1 line?

Anyway, I didn't actually mention "sexual intercourse," only "sexual touching," because that's the terminology you used.

So, answer the questions above. Including whether you're married. 

Also tell us whether you approach your husband/wife like a praey istri (woman other than your wife).

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Guest lovepreet singh

Is it right that amrit commitment is broken by watching porn or doing something by yourself not with another guy or girl 

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On 4/26/2019 at 9:24 PM, BhForce said:

I agree with the first part of your statement. Basically, you should not do anything before you are married that you would not want your wife/husband doing if you were married.

The second part (in parentheses) is quite strange. Marriage is consent to be sexual with one another.

"only when both parties consent"? 

Are you seriously stating that you should approach or behave towards your wife like you would with some random woman that you were not married to?

If you go to, whatever, a store, a library, a conference, a workplace, you would obviously not touch a woman in any way. You would only talk with her, and that too, only if required.

You would never walk up behind her, caress her shoulder and say "Hey, how's it going?"

Are you really honestly saying that you want to require Sikh (or even non-Sikh) men to get "consent" before hugging, touching, fondling, or caressing their wives?

What a great marriage that'll be.

What would that be like? "Hello human that I have agreed to live with. Do I have you consent to place my hand on the small of your back?"

"Please sign and date here. I'll need a copy of your driver's license and NH #. And do go to the Notary Public's to have the agreement notarized."

If you are a male, it's quite sorry you've bought into "male feminism". Are you married? And is that how you think marriage works?

If you are a female, I have to question why you think any man would ever want to marry you, if even after committing to caring for you until you die, he still would have no more ability to be sexual with you than any other female in the entire country.

hi.  and <banned word filter activated>???

thats not what i meant by saying that both parties consent.  i don't even remember what i meant when i wrote it, as it doesnt seem relevant to the original post.  also, i think you assumed i'm some sjw?  no.  but your worldview is pretty bizarre.  do you view the women around you as potential rape objects?

Realist was a different person that answered.  but i agree with what they said.  and you didn't even answer what they said.  do you think its ok for a partner to force sex on/rape the other?  just because you married, doesn't make your partner a slave.

you make if sound like your marriage partner is some piece of property.  you can just feel her up whenever you want, even if she's not in the mood.

im not married, but obviously there's time when one person would feel sexual and the other doesn't.  marriage isnt slavery.  its basic human consideration. 

consent doesn't mean literally asking "is it ok if i touch you".  its mean not forcing stuff on people that they don't want to do.  and it works both ways.

i'm a male and yes i would be happy with a female who told me when she wasn't in the mood, as i would do likewise.

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