ਕਾਲ ਅਤੇ ਭਗੋਤੀ ਸ਼ਬਦ ਦੀ ਵਿਚਾਰ :

[CHaamCHrick]

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[pardesanbibbi]

On 30/07/2017 at 5:33 PM, CHaamCHrick said:

Bhagauti can be defined as the Supreme One or the Creator. There is only One Creator. That's why we remember the SB when we do our Ardas; Bhagauti is a metaphor for waheguru which basically means the sword. It is not a reference to any Hindu deity and sikhs do not worship any Hindu deities. Even Bhai Gurdas ji clearly defines Bhagauti as a sword in the following words,'nau bhagauti lohu gharaia.'  This has been translated as 'when iron is wrought properly becomes powerful' Bhai Gurdas Vaaran XX6We can also visualize an image of a mighty sword made of iron which cuts all our bandans or bondage, it liberates us from bondage thererfore liberating our souls from 84 lacs.

For a sikh Kal means both time and death. Time is personified as the god of death, because death is a limiting factor in human life. Kal as god of death determines how long a person should live upon earth. So death and time are associated together. An individual's time upon earth begins with his birth and ends with his death. However for the soul, there is no death. It has no time because it is without a beginning and without an end. Kal is a concept which can only be determined by our own personal experience for  time can usually be measured in terms of days and nights, or months and years.  There is regularity  of days and nights in both worlds of maya and the spiritual which is perceived as cosmic rythm which god manifests.  CR is inherent in every aspect of creation. In the human body it is the biorhythm as well as the beat of the heart and the movement of lungs. In the universe it is inherent in the configuration of the planetary bodies and their fixed movements. Dharma or the spiritual law regulates CR  which is an aspect of God Himself. Read the relativity theory if not sure.

 

 

 

 

Some interpret 'kal' as kaliyuga too. Theory of R explains the concept better.

This is just a very simple but interesting video need to read the actual text.

[CHaamCHrick]

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[Markgateshead]

On 01/08/2017 at 11:37 AM, CHaamCHrick said:

I am glad you reminded me, no problem bro!

I realised it as soon as I read your post but couldn't understand why you omitted the sikh Ardass.  Even I have a problem explaining to my own parents about wearing the Sri Sahib beause of their Christian backgrounds. They try to support me as much as they can but still haven't come to terms with my conversion to the sikh faith and then the divorce, but I remain hopeful. I like the video posted by another poster.

[pardesanbibbi]

38 minutes ago, Markgateshead said:

I realised it as soon as I read your post but couldn't understand why you omitted the sikh Ardass.  Even I have a problem explaining to my own parents about wearing the Sri Sahib beause of their Christian backgrounds. They try to support me as much as they can but still haven't come to terms with my conversion to the sikh faith and then the divorce, but I remain hopeful. I like the video posted by another poster.

Hey, how are you Markgateshead? Nice to see you back! Tthanks for liking the video. What made you convert to sikhism and how long have you been following it?

[CHaamCHrick]

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[Markgateshead]

On 02/08/2017 at 8:43 PM, CHaamCHrick said:

It wasn't deliberate though! I know, it can be very annoying sometimes having to explain to people constantly why we have long hair and the rest! Some people actually appreciate it very much when you take the time to explain everything to them. All things considered, I have no hassle from anyone about my faith. I am glad your parents are supportive but it must be difficult for them to accept the fact that you have surrendered your birth religion? How long have you been divorced? Yes, we all need hope and faith to sail through this journey of ours' on earth; so good luck with it my friend!

They were very suprised when I suddenly started discussing God.  I have always been an atheist prior to become a sikh. They are supportive mostly but sometimes they also ask a lot of questions about sikhism. I been divorced for nearly two and a half years. I need all the luck to follow sikhism thanks.

[Markgateshead]

On 02/08/2017 at 3:10 PM, pardesanbibbi said:

 What made you convert to sikhism and how long have you been following it?

I was just very fascinated and curious by it all plus the fact I had many sikh friends to help me to learn about sikhism ! I have been a sikh for six years now.

[dallysingh101]

On 7/31/2017 at 0:23 AM, BhForce said:

Thanks for typing this up, but you incorrectly spelled two important words:

ਅੋਰ should probably be ਅਉਰ, but if it's not, then it should be ਔਰ. You can't attach a hora vowel to an Aara letter. If you want to use a hora, it becomes part of an Oora:  ਓਰ.

ਭਗੋਤੀ should either be ਭਗਉਤੀ or, failing that, ਭਗੌਤੀ. 

There is a LOT of flexibility when it comes to spelling in older Gurmukhi. The more codified or rigid approach to spelling came about post-annexation when standardisation was all the rage. 

[dallysingh101]

1 hour ago, GuestSingh said:

No white devil can ever be a Sikh in my eyes. Your forefathers/ancestors tried to destroy the faith, the people and the country through murder, greed & lies and the suffering continues to exist today. Now you here trying to act holy and knowledgeable by trying be one of us after your treacherous ex-wife turned her back to her own people by cheaply surrendering herself to a white pig. I do not trust a single one of you, regardless of whether you try to practice the Sikh faith or not. Panjabis only need to look at 3HO, a white fanatic cult continuing to distort Sikhi for money. History shows that you are not to be trusted and you can never be our friends.

As far as I am concerned, the white devil has no right to be welcome here.

Although I fully understand why people would be suspicious of Europeans given their history in India (and many other places like Africa), I don't think it is impossible for a one to become Sikh. But I think many would struggle with the more 'robust' side of it (but then so do hordes of Sikhs from India), by this I mean getting bloody and throwing yourself into an against all odds conflict if the time required it. Most western white people seem to love comfort more than anything else. Eastern europeans are another kettle of fish, those mofos can handle a rough time.