#freejagginow

[Premi5]

Anyone heard back from their MP? 

[Guest]

29 minutes ago, Premi5 said:

Anyone heard back from their MP? 

I haven't yet.

[Big_Tera]

Could they have not thought of a better catch phraze then jagginow.

Sound like on juggy ds' latest bhangra tracks 

[Guest]

1 hour ago, Big_Tera said:

Could they have not thought of a better catch phraze then jagginow.

Sound like on juggy ds' latest bhangra tracks 

Why does that matter?

[Premi5]

1 hour ago, Big_Tera said:

Could they have not thought of a better catch phraze then jagginow.

Sound like on juggy ds' latest bhangra tracks 

#freejagginow. you missed out the 'free'. Seems okay to me

[jkvlondon]

18 hours ago, superkaur said:

1) Yes It's strange because he is not mr average joe british punjabi going for a holiday. I am fully supportive of his earliest release by the authorities in punjab. However to me this case is abnormal as for a british born guy who is against the Indian establishment by highlighting their crimes online to the world then wonders off to the same country on holiday that does not acknowledge the horrible genocidal crimes it committed against his community nor jails those responsible but gives them high govermental posts and z+ commando secutity. You think India has civilized? their drunkard uncivilized police is not using torture against their own and foreign civilians? not corrupt? I certainly wouldn't take the risk going to India unless I was there to help bring down the corrupt regime that's for sure.

Why dont you see activists in the west like those who campaign against human rights abuses go to countries such as saudi, china, etc? because they would be tortured and/or killed by the corrupt brutal evil regimes. So I'm guessing he knew the risks but  just got unlucky cos India does have a pretty top of the range cyber intelligence monitoring facilities, they have started to oppress, raid and jail those citizens who raise their voices against state corruption and state terrorism by india.. its strange he didnt think Indian authorities would not be keen to pick people like him up. He is lucky he is Britsh and Sikhs in the west will raise their voice for him and tarnish India's image aboard and harm india's national interests too if need be.

Why you think a black lists exists against Sikhs born in India? As they actively campaign against Indian establishment for their terrorism against Sikh civilians. Why do you think they never go back to India? come on use your brain...

2) Tan Dhesi  MP can only do so much for Sikh causes his primary objective is to cater for his constituents who elected him either way he is a visible symbol of a British born Sikh in the houses of parliament and he must recognise he represents the interests of the British Sikh population who look to him aswell as Preet Kaur MP to raise their voices for their fellow Sikh being held unjustifiably by the Indian authorities. Just as Muslim MP's fight for causes for their religious community as do Jewish MP's for Israels' interests and as do Hindu MP's for India's interests. Sikh MP's should actively fight for self determination of a Sikh homeland, highlight human rights abuses against Sikhs aboard and aswell as deal with issues and concerns of their constituents.

3) And no you grow up. There is a such a thing as doing a citizens arrest against known criminals. If British Sikhs are so passionate about protesting let them take direct action in arresting these dodgy Indian officials when they visit the UK to serve as a deterrent against Sikhs being killed or detained in india for dodgy grounds or anti-human rights reasons. Sometimes you gotta take a stand on an issue you care passionately about.

If you remember the case of gay human rights activist peter thatchill he tried to make a citizens arrest of zimbabawe president robert mugabe when he visited the UK he failed to do that but it highlighted in the media further the crimes of mugabe . If even 100 Sikhs did the same the next time a high ranking India official came to visit the UK there will be a mini riot and it will radicalise a whole generation of sleeping well integrated and law abiding british Sikhs against injustices of any state that physically attacks them (which the govt can ill afford)

Nothing in life is given to you on a plate you have to fight for it and ensure you keep fighting to maintain your human rights and equal treatment in society.

4) And lastly Nazanin is a british Spy working for MI6 and she is married to a fellow officer. UK foreign secretary Boris johnson MP the goof, let the cat out of the bag when he told the parliamentary committee she was training iranians how to be journalists, he wouldn't have said such a specific thing if it wasnt true and he wasn't briefed about it by intelligence officers. And if you know anything about foreign intelligence gathering you'd know must foreign spies work under cover as journalists and in NGO's to give a free pass in accessing area's or influencing populations of their enemy/rivals.

So come on time to wake up and come into the real world, what you see on the news is only half the story. The true full story they never want to reveal openly cos it could harm their governments national and economic interests.

 

1. he was within his reasonable expectations as he had made a previous uneventful visit besides knowing his citizenship offered some protections theoretically. We have the right to visit our itihaasic Gurdwarey , to see extended family this isn't zakhirya Khan's time despite what RSS  believes they are. Then sikhs came out of the jungles and showed that they would live on their own terms and die the same . Death is a certainty , the only choice is :die fighting on your feet or cowering on your knees.

As for your bogus statements about western activists not going into the lion's mouth to support humanity suffering oppression you are so wrong : Andy Hall sitting in a thai jail , with serious cases being thrown at him because he exposed the human rights abuses of the thai pineapple industry, Cynthia KeppleyMahmood who was gangraped by the forces and her life threatened for daring to bring the truths of the sikhs to the world , our own Jaswant SIngh khalra was just a bank manager but he found the truth and brought it to the world then went back to his home from Canada even though he knew he may not survive  - DO NOT dismiss people who are willing to pay the price in full.

Black lists for Diaspora sikhs as they are the ones the GOI can't get hold of easily.

2) Tan and Preet can only work within the law , you can see what happens when you work for another govt - bye bye Priti Patel GOI chamcchi. You sound like these people who think they are entitled to cuss these folks down >
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/4935980/sikh-mp-is-abused-by-web-trolls-who-think-he-should-only-campaign-on-sikh-issues/

3) Citizen's arrests are for use ONLY in the situation where a crime is actually actively being carried out  , to hold the person until police get there . NOT for historic stuff, or crimes external to the country . It would get you put in prison for kidnap if you did try it in the wrong situation . Here have a read:

https://www.theguardian.com/law/2011/aug/09/guide-to-citizens-arrest

you can awaken the sleeping by much more effective means than a publicity stunt that could backfire amazingly and spoil young sikh men's lives before they did anything 

4. nazanin is not a spy that was the charge the Iranian authorities she was a charity worker visiting her bheke with her baby daughter. Who got grabbed to be used as a pawn in a tug of war over defaulted tank sales :

https://www.amnesty.org.uk/actions/help-get-nazanin-home-iran-prisoner-british-mother?utm_source=Paid+Facebook&utm_medium=Digital&utm_campaign=MAEN409&utm_content=NazaninKamal-Action

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/4915082/nazanin-zaghari-ratcliffe-iran-release-demands/

[Premi5]

33 minutes ago, jkvlondon said:

 

Black lists for Diaspora sikhs as they are the ones the GOI can't get hold of easily. bye bye Priti Patel GOI chamcchi. 

4. nazanin is not a spy

 

What is your take on priti Patel?

and why so sure Nazanin is not a spy? Her husband is apparently 

[jkvlondon]

It is clear that Iran is using multiple britons to pressure govt

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/may/09/nazanin-zaghari-ratcliffe-iran-arrest-daughter-solitary-confinement

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/jan/18/family-briton-kamal-foroughi-held-iran-urge-david-cameron-secure-release

and like India they are detaining their citizens for very ridiculous reasons

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jun/06/iran-mehdi-hossein-rajabian-yousef-emadi-jailed-distributing-underground-music

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/apr/27/tehran-court-jails-three-iranian-journalists-for-spreading-propaganda

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/may/16/iran-arrests-models-crackdown-unlicensed-industry-hijab

Priti Patel was doing her 'secret' Israeli meetings for her own agenda including being go-between for BJP/RSS GOI to Israelis 

I do not think Nazanin is a spy because they would have been desperate to keep her out of the news and do a backstreet deal to release her by now . It's always ordinary folk who suffer

[MrDoaba]

1 hour ago, jkvlondon said:

Priti Patel was doing her 'secret' Israeli meetings for her own agenda including being go-between for BJP/RSS GOI to Israelis

While you and many others don't like her or what she did due to the fact she was probably doing it for GOI, personally I commend her simply for the reason that at least she knows where her true loyalties lie and that she actually had it in her to try and pull off a stunt like that. I hardly see apne in positions of power using it to their quams benefit.

I say let the UK governemnt see how it feels to not be privy to something so large scale for a change, serves them right. She did their behsti big time, couldn't even formally sack her lol.

Although, was she really even doing it for GOI? Israel and India have close well documented relations, specifically in terms of the military. Why would they need her as a go-between, especially in face to face meetings, which in this day and age aren't exactly inconspicuous?

 

[jkvlondon]

8 hours ago, MrDoaba said:

While you and many others don't like her or what she did due to the fact she was probably doing it for GOI, personally I commend her simply for the reason that at least she knows where her true loyalties lie and that she actually had it in her to try and pull off a stunt like that. I hardly see apne in positions of power using it to their quams benefit.

I say let the UK governemnt see how it feels to not be privy to something so large scale for a change, serves them right. She did their behsti big time, couldn't even formally sack her lol.

Although, was she really even doing it for GOI? Israel and India have close well documented relations, specifically in terms of the military. Why would they need her as a go-between, especially in face to face meetings, which in this day and age aren't exactly inconspicuous?

 

the fact she pushed for brexit was to disrupt Uk's trade agreements to strengthen Modi's hand ... which would endanger british sikhs just as in the past ...to get people handed over for trade deals. she went into Golan heights which is a British Nogo area as the British recognise it as an illegally occupied region . Boris may be under the delusion she was there to help him undermine May but she is Modi fan through and through