Sikhs and celebration?

[S1ngh]

Are there any difference of birth/death programs that we keep in our dharam? We do akhand patth and I don’t see any difference as they all are same. Gurbani, kirtan, katha, langar. Only difference is the end part of the ardas which highlights the program. So there is no difference between happy/sad?

[Preeet]

vaheguru ji ka khalsa
vaheguru ji ki fateh, ji

Not really sure.. When someones born, a lot people usually gift sweets. During sri guru nanak dev jis kartik occasion a lot of people light divas in my city's gurdwara ji. vaheguru ji ka khalsa vaheguru ji ki fateh

[sikhni777]

http://www.sikhiwiki.org/index.php/Dukh_Sukh

The link above highlights the gaining of sukh and dhukh. 

The sakhi of Bhai Randhir Singh Ji also shows us how our karams have to be completed before we merge into Waheguru. 

There is another sakhi which I will try to find which shows how a Gurmukh had his son married one day and buried the next day without any change in emotions. I dont remember exactly who that was. 

[TaksalDaSingh9771]

13 hours ago, sikhni777 said:

 

There is another sakhi which I will try to find which shows how a Gurmukh had his son married one day and buried the next day without any change in emotions. I dont remember exactly who that was. 

Yes, I remember hearing this sakhi. I am pretty sure I heard it in recording of salok mahalla nava by bhai surinder singh jodhpuri. I will try to find it. 

[sikhni777]

53 minutes ago, TaksalDaSingh9771 said:

Yes, I remember hearing this sakhi. I am pretty sure I heard it in recording of salok mahalla nava by bhai surinder singh jodhpuri. I will try to find it. 

I think It Is bhai bhagtu.

[guruvah]

21 hours ago, S1ngh said:

Are there any difference of birth/death programs that we keep in our dharam? We do akhand patth and I don’t see any difference as they all are same. Gurbani, kirtan, katha, langar. Only difference is the end part of the ardas which highlights the program. So there is no difference between happy/sad?

If you read Gurbani carefully, gurmat wants us to rise above dukh sukh of in all phases life. (practically only intense naam abhiyaas is what can make us numb to the ups and downs of life).

If you have done sangat of soojvaan gursikhs. You will realize the shabads sung in keertan to SatGuroo are usually always related to the occasion. In sadness, praising vahiguroo and accepting his bhana and in happiness thanking him etc.

 

[S1ngh]

So, when we say - shaheedi month December - ppl say refrain from doing any happy event. This trend is picking up. Are we wrong?

[Kaur72]

7 hours ago, S1ngh said:

So, when we say - shaheedi month December - ppl say refrain from doing any happy event. This trend is picking up. Are we wrong?

I don’t think we are wrong. Shaheedi is not to celebrate.. do we celebrate when a beloved one dies in our family? If someone dies in jan or feb that year we don’t even celebrate Diwali or any other festival no marriages nothing that whole year. Shaheedi of our Mata pita and beloved brothers is not to celebrate.. we should actually show gratitude by following sikhi in true manner and be a true sikh..  like there’s some people who are changing their religion for sake of money they are converting into Christianity.. right. So disappointed with this.. and in gurudwaras they serve kheer/jalebi on these days that needs to be stop as well. Only simple langer daal and roti should be served.. 

[MrDoaba]

24 minutes ago, Kaur72 said:

I don’t think we are wrong. Shaheedi is not to celebrate.. do we celebrate when a beloved one dies in our family? If someone dies in jan or feb that year we don’t even celebrate Diwali or any other festival no marriages nothing that whole year. Shaheedi of our Mata pita and beloved brothers is not to celebrate.. we should actually show gratitude by following sikhi in true manner and be a true sikh..  like there’s some people who are changing their religion for sake of money they are converting into Christianity.. right. So disappointed with this.. and in gurudwaras they serve kheer/jalebi on these days that needs to be stop as well. Only simple langer daal and roti should be served.. 

What about on Guru Arjan Dev Ji's Shaheedi Divas?

I'm sure I've heard that Bhai Jinda & Bhai Sukha handed out mithayi when they received their death sentences.

The whole thing is matter of perception.

Depending on how you look at, and if you are thankful as you say we should be, there's nothing wrong with celebrating. What better way to mark shaheedi month by saying "oye saaleyo we're still around, and Chardi Kala!!!". In this month we should display Miri-Piri in whatever way we can to thank Maharaaj. After all They made this sacrifice for Sikhi and us so that we would still be around today! Imagine how positive it would be if people said to themselves "this is the month that some of the most important figures of their Dharam became Shaheed and look at them, they're in such high spirits...they haven't given up one bit!!"

[S1ngh]

I strongly believe that we have no special days. Gurpurabs and other historical days only serve the purpose of the reminder of our history. Dure to so many wars and deaths and genocides that happened in our history, everyday possible is sad day. Gurbani says that we should lift ourself from these worldly happy/sadness circle (also pointed by few above). We are also not meant to    be attached with family relationships as they are temporary and a maya. 

When we keep akhand paat for either happy or sad event, I don’t see much difference in the programs except humans emotions. Guru sahib ji or rehat does not specifically say that we should remember something at the particular day. Rememberance events are needed but there is no particular protocol that we should not plan anything certain dates. As per Gurbani, our souls should stay neutral - nether happy nor sad. This is how our guru sahibs lived their life and told us to do the same.