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28 minutes ago, simran345 said:

If one is wealthy then it maybe. But otherwise I have to disagree. 

The thing is there is poverty, and other crap but its still an amazing place. Its the dharti of our gurus

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9 minutes ago, Singh123456777 said:

The thing is there is poverty, and other crap but its still an amazing place. Its the dharti of our gurus

True dat. But I thought Khalistan is the Dharti of our Gurus?

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19 minutes ago, MrDoaba said:

True dat. But I thought Khalistan is the Dharti of our Gurus?

Oops 🙊 

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3 minutes ago, Singh123456777 said:

Oops 🙊 

Tut tut Singh, I've heard if you don't believe in Khalistan you're not Sikh. So....like....

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5 minutes ago, NonExistant said:

Whats Khalistan? Is that a city? Never heard of it in my life!

It's a bit like Atlantis, everyone likes to think it exists when in reality, it actually doesn't.

Whoops!

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4 hours ago, MrDoaba said:

I can't tell if this is a joke?

I seem to remember in 'sau din saas ke' the saas boils kirli in dudh to poison the troublesome nau rani....

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1 minute ago, jkvlondon said:

I seem to remember in 'sau din saas ke' the saas boils kirli in dudh to poison the troublesome nau rani....

How kind of her. And you watch what I'm assuming is an indian drama??

Poisoning someone and getting high of them is two different things though.

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48 minutes ago, MrDoaba said:

True dat. But I thought Khalistan is the Dharti of our Gurus?

if you define it where Guru ji put his charan then that includes Russia, China, middle east , europe, turkey, saudi , sri lanka, tibet, leh , ladakh, afghanistan, some accounts say africa ....SO FAR that's most of the land mass

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1 minute ago, MrDoaba said:

How kind of her. And you watch what I'm assuming is an indian drama??

Poisoning someone and getting high of them is two different things though.

ancient bollywood watched as a teen

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3 minutes ago, jkvlondon said:

if you define it where Guru ji put his charan then that includes Russia, China, middle east , europe, turkey, saudi , sri lanka, tibet, leh , ladakh, afghanistan, some accounts say africa ....SO FAR that's most of the land mass

Yeah but what is the point here?

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1 minute ago, MrDoaba said:

Yeah but what is the point here?

meaning is khalistan actually  not a geographic location but hearts and minds of the people of those nations .... make the Khalsa pargat and everywhere becomes the land of the khalsa  ...remember we have only our sovereign Lord above us no government

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1 minute ago, jkvlondon said:

meaning is khalistan actually  not a geographic location but hearts and minds of the people of those nations .... make the Khalsa pargat and everywhere becomes the land of the khalsa  ...remember we have only our sovereign Lord above us no government

Fair enough. You should tell those who support the geographical version of Khalistan though.

I think the name "Khalistan" is a terrible choice anyhow.

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3 minutes ago, MrDoaba said:

Fair enough. You should tell those who support the geographical version of Khalistan though.

I think the name "Khalistan" is a terrible choice anyhow.

it is a named given by angrez if I remember correctly ...and reused by Indira

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It's unfortunate that the punjab didn't go to the sikhs, instead of being divided into pakistan and hindustan.  I almost think it was intentional of the British, which is odd considering how much excellent and loyal service they've received from the khalsa.

Whatever you want to call it, Khalistan etc, I think you're right that ultimately it's in the hearts of people, but man how different things could have been if the Sikh people had been given self determination somewhere.

Miri and Piri comes to mind.  Maybe one "khalistan" is in the realm of miri and the other piri.  Unfortunately one of those was denied by the ignorance of imperialists.

The events following partition have been mainly horrible on both sides, but the immediate aftermath in the Pakistan side of Punjab....man..

Whether intentionally malevolent or simply ignorant, the way the land was partitioned was tragic.

Mankind is the only being on this planet that has no right to land.   The authority that thinks it owns the land is the authority of murder and imprisonment.  When this authority does not honor the social contract and respect the rights of the people, as is pretty much the case everywhere, the physical, mental, and emotional consequences are disastrous.

But hey, it's maya right, so....of course it would be backwards, to put it nicely.

Imperialism has always  been a cancer of this world.  very few empires have any sort of good track record in terms of serving the people or by being created through any sort of consensus or collaboration of the people that have a right to life there.

From what little I know of the jatha, it seems like a fairly good way to give local people control over their lives while allowing them to participate and collaborate.  The Lakota Sioux have an initiative, made popular by Russel Means (r.i.p.).  If anyone is interested Russels Means has an excellent documentary on youtube called "Welcome to the Reservation" that I think anyone could enjoy and learn from.

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