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Sorry, posted a day late: https://www.sikh24.com/2018/02/23/jagtar-singh-johal-social-media-event-february-26-2018/#.WpUwKujFLIU Jagtar Singh Johal Social Media Event February 26, 2018

They toe the same line as the wider press to appease the UK government, without whose support they will be unable to charge a silly licence fee! India has always had the UK by the knackers, if it

If petitions did anything they would be 'banned'. Go ahead create a #, do some social media groups, share with friends etc..it won't do anything. Civil disobedience is the only thing that gets policy

21 minutes ago, monatosingh said:

Realistically I don't think the petition will do anything.

I know bro. Should still do it though.

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Outside of signing petitions and writing to local MPs, the vast majority, me included, will do sweet FA, just helps lighten the load in to thinking we've done something. The reality is that apart from a few die hard Naujwans, who I might add would be foolish to go to India after publicly backing the campaign, the rest are passive.

We can argue the same about the Marches taking place every June in London. In the grand scheme of things, has it really made much of a difference, the K*ti GOI have in fact become more right wing since '84 and the nationalism wave is riding ever high with Modi's support. We haven't forgotten so that's why Sangat attends - without fail year on year and I suppose there is a level of knowledge dissemination to the tourists. 

Is there a single Sikh petition that has resulted in the UK government actually taking positive action, or is it just a big con to make us feel like our voices are being heard? 

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7 minutes ago, InderjitS said:

Is there a single Sikh petition that has resulted in the UK government actually taking positive action, or is it just a big con to make us feel like our voices are being heard? 

Very true brother. I normally don't sign petitions or go to the '84 march, personally feel that it's a waste of time. I just thought I'd post it here because this one is actually pretty close to the target and on the off chance it might make a difference.

Sikh Youth UK are urging people to send letters to Jaggi which while being very thoughtful, isn't particularly well advised.

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Just now, MrDoaba said:

Very true brother. I normally don't sign petitions or go to the '84 march, personally feel that it's a waste of time. I just thought I'd post it here because this one is actually pretty close to the target and on the off chance it might make a difference.

Sikh Youth UK are urging people to send letters to Jaggi which while being very thoughtful, isn't particularly well advised.

Almost always attend the Marches, if not for bringing about change just for remembrance and solidarity, this year no doubt be 'Amarinder/Modi Kut* Maro Juta' narey and usually it's a good day out to meet long lost friends annually :).  

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If petitions did anything they would be 'banned'. Go ahead create a #, do some social media groups, share with friends etc..it won't do anything. Civil disobedience is the only thing that gets policy to change, hence why the authorities pander to certain communities that are known to kick off if they don't get what they want. If the Sikh community refused to pay it's tax until something was done, watch how quick juggi would be back in the UK . But our visible leaders with their MBE, obe's etc would rather suck up that rock the boat. Also realise that India has a lot of money invested in the UK (Tata etc, who own companies like Jag land rover and Tate and Lyle) so government won't rock the boat unless pushed to do so.

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43 minutes ago, imhosingh said:

If petitions did anything they would be 'banned'. Go ahead create a #, do some social media groups, share with friends etc..it won't do anything. Civil disobedience is the only thing that gets policy to change, hence why the authorities pander to certain communities that are known to kick off if they don't get what they want. If the Sikh community refused to pay it's tax until something was done, watch how quick juggi would be back in the UK . But our visible leaders with their MBE, obe's etc would rather suck up that rock the boat. Also realise that India has a lot of money invested in the UK (Tata etc, who own companies like Jag land rover and Tate and Lyle) so government won't rock the boat unless pushed to do so.

I don't doubt you are right. The signature only takes 30 seconds though.  Then maybe we can continue talks on how to address issues like this. 

Writing politicians? In the uk they have local mps? 

Submitting for mainstream media coverage?

Economic boycotts?

Peaceful public protest?

Blanket refusal to re elect any standing mp that doesn't do something?

Roll up with the jathas?

I believe there is a sikh legal nonprofit of lawyers? Maybe they could help. 

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