how deluded is Niddar Sio?

[Guest]

24 minutes ago, Koi said:

Let's actually get down to it here. How many of you (yes, you keyboard warriors as well) have actually gone up to him and discussed your grievances with him personally? I gonna guess not much (if any).

I used to train under him back in the day (but work commitments have put my training on hold). Whenever I or any of us had a question, we used to ask him directly. And he would take the time (as long as we needed) to explain each point in detail. He is always absolutely open to dialogue, but it seems no one wants to discuss anything with him directly! I've seen this pattern for years now.

Now coming downto the point which ruffles a lot of feathers. And some gatka boys may find this offensive. How many people think that what he teaches is not the authentic shastar vidiya? And how many believe gatka is the authentic vidiya. In my many years (yes, I'm that old) I've seen many senior gatka students leave gatka after being disillusioned and join his ranks. Some of these people are from the famous baba ajit Singh akhara from Southall.

I've seen both and done both. Bottom line: gatka is a tamasha, SV is the real deal. Period.

Sv is a mishmash of kra maga/escrima/sikat/FMA.

Nothing of his is original 

[Koi]

25 minutes ago, Singh123456777 said:

Sv is a mishmash of kra maga/escrima/sikat/FMA.

Nothing of his is original 

Says who? Please show evidence for this typical cliché claim.

[Guest]

7 hours ago, Koi said:

Says who? Please show evidence for this typical cliché claim.

Says me who studied martial arts for 5-6 years and know what vaars look like what. When niddar started he had different techniques than he has now. He studied with Escrima/Silat/FMA instructers etc and picked up their techniques. Now im not syaing thats bad cause we should constantly be evolving and learn but if you are calling it something that is unique then thats where i have a problem.

[Koi]

On 22/01/2018 at 10:54 PM, Singh123456777 said:

Says me who studied martial arts for 5-6 years and know what vaars look like what. When niddar started he had different techniques than he has now. He studied with Escrima/Silat/FMA instructers etc and picked up their techniques. Now im not syaing thats bad cause we should constantly be evolving and learn but if you are calling it something that is unique then thats where i have a problem.

I've studied various martial arts for many years as well, and I say it is the real deal. But let's leave subjective opinions out for a second. 

You say he studied with different instructors of different arts. Do you have any evidence to back up this bogus claim? Who are these phantom instructors? How come they haven't come forward with this magical claim that you've just made?

If you look at the various seminars Gurdev Niddar Singh has done with other instructors, they all say it' the real deal. Of course there's some overlap, there always is. That does not constitute plagiarism. For example, a "tiger-style" of fighting will be similar across different martial arts, because it is based on the same animal. 

Ideological differences aside, every time this topic pops up, I always look for the evidence behind the bogus claims that people make. But in every situation, much like yours, there is no evidence. 

What a pathetic plight, that the whole world accepts SV as the real deal, except our own people! 

Awaiting your thoughts and evidence Bro. ...

[GurjantGnostic]

Dude uses weapons, and it isn't for sport.  Makes it more martial than most arts.

Why does he dress like a sikh though? 

[InderjitS]

I've also studied martial arts many many many years and to my enemies and those who have fought me and lost so badly they just don’t know what to do. Love!”

Just had to get that off chest, it's not all plagiarised - LONG LIVE TRUMP, oops sorry.

[Koi]

@Singh123456777, Bro, still waiting on your evidence. ....

[Prokharkoo84]

niddar is a clown plain and simple. his b.s style does not work on the streets and its even funnier he tells people not to lift weights, go boxing and instead to have a diet consisting of sausages and drinking liquor. what a complete joker lol.

[Kira]

2 hours ago, Prokharkoo84 said:

niddar is a clown plain and simple. his b.s style does not work on the streets and its even funnier he tells people not to lift weights, go boxing and instead to have a diet consisting of sausages and drinking liquor. what a complete joker lol.

That cant be true surely, Don't the Nihangs refuse to eat cow?

[Koi]

3 hours ago, Prokharkoo84 said:

niddar is a clown plain and simple. his b.s style does not work on the streets and its even funnier he tells people not to lift weights, go boxing and instead to have a diet consisting of sausages and drinking liquor. what a complete joker lol.

Again, let's' break it down. 

Have you trained under him? What is your experience? Have you asked him? Etc. 

As far as lifting weights goes; one does not become a good fighter simply by lifting weights. I know of many martial arts masters, for whom lifting weights/muscular strength is not in any way a core part of their training regime. 

As far as eating sausages goes, nihangs do eat meat. And the great thing about sausage is, you know it's never gonna be halal!

Still waiting on evidence against SV.....