So Jagmeet gets married ....

[BhForce]

9 hours ago, californiasardar1 said:

You make a great point.  I remember when I was a kid.  You'd see a clean shaven Sikh uncle, and almost without exception, his wife would still have uncut hair tied in a bun.

That was preferable, I think. If the dad's a mona who drinks, that's bad, but still the mother can tell the kids "don't drink, don't cut your hair". (It doesn't work in reverse.) Meanwhile, the Gurdwara gianis can then reinforce that teaching with katha on Sikh rehit and ethics.

The problem is, the Gurdwara gianis never got around to talking about why we shouldn't drink or cut our hair, because the committees didn't allow them to do that. The moment somebody would say don't cut your hair, they'd get sacked from Gurdwara employment, because the committee was monas, as well. 

[Akalifauj]

On 24/02/2018 at 5:05 PM, BhForce said:

Have you considered that maybe on this one special day, he didn't want to "bike" to his wedding? I thought people were criticizing him for marrying a non-Amritdhari. That is warranted. To begrudge him not having a super-simple wedding is not warranted.

I suppose you're also upset that he and his bride wore finery on this one special day instead of khaddar (homespun cotton)? If they wanted to wear khaddar, that's fine, too, but they didn't, and that's fine, too. Compared to what some brides wear, her clothes are extremely conservative: no cleavage, no bare midriff, no arms even. What's the problem?

What you're saying would have some import in context. The fact is whenever there's a wedding among our people, rows upon rows of airplanes are filled with people flying out (or in). If that were not the case, then your complaining about Jagmeet Singh's airplane ride would have an impact, but it doesn't.

Huh? Then on what basis?

Are you serious? What are you even talking about? Did you not see the pictures @jkvlondon posted here? Just so there's no misunderstanding, here's the actual wedding pic (attached).

I ask you again: She's wearing a chunni (on her head, not around her as a fashion accessory on her shoulders). What else do you want?

Marrying a patit is not a special day.  The special day he should have paid attention to was when he took Amrit from the Punj pyare and told her 5 years ago, take Amrit or I'm gone.  He lied to the public by pretending to be worried about the environment by driving a bicycle.  He got engaged to a patit woman and throw everything good out of the window.  

Anyone who has the ability to use social media has seen she is not an amritdhari.

Also answer my questions.   

 If she was concerned about covering her head even not in the presence of Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji, then how come during the proposal she has her hair open and uncovered? 

[Akalifauj]

13 hours ago, Prokharkoo84 said:

I get what you saying bro but Gursikhs should in theory be pakkeh in their own thing than to be swayed by one individual. I get gursikh women feel they be shunned, but even if he married one gursikh girl, he wouldnt have married the remainder. the guys had a love marriage with someone who he actually loves, and like i said before, gotta rate the girl for not rejecting him due to his sikhi saroop. bigger issue here is that all the haters are appearing to be jelous and on the nindiyah bandwagon.

Why would anyone want to marry a patit woman in the first place.  According to Gurbani she is an ugly woman.  Only insecure men want these type of woman in and are scared around these women.  

He loved a patit woman.  When the insecure boys can't find anything to say, the other person is jealous.  Jealous of what, he married a patit woman who dances around revealing her body and has no sense of Gurbani.  She sings filthy Punjabi music for fun.  Only a fool would marry such a woman.  Smart men who don't care about religion will mess around with these type of girls and give them the boot once they are bored.  

Learn the definition of nindiya (slander).  

Also he's a patit now.  

[GurjantGnostic]

@Akalifauj

Dude. She'd have to be Amritdhari to be patit. Make up your mind already. 

So either way you cut it, what you're doing is nindya. 

It's either slander she isn't amritdhari or slander she's patit. So you pick which burden you're choosing to carry. 

You're also in no position to declare anyone patit. 

My advice to you is get yourself in order. 

[Kira]

8 hours ago, garch said:

Nindiya = people in glass houses throwing stones

 

This singh probably does more good then all of us put together. hes obviously no Saint but he's on the right path.

maharaj bless him and the rest of us strength to become a better and stronger singhs then we already are.

so many SJWs on here. The dude's done more than me, I'll give him props for that.  Chalo, I'm sure a-lot of the critics are better people than everyone here. 

[Akalifauj]

3 hours ago, GurjantGnostic said:

@Akalifauj

Dude. She'd have to be Amritdhari to be patit. Make up your mind already. 

So either way you cut it, what you're doing is nindya. 

It's either slander she isn't amritdhari or slander she's patit. So you pick which burden you're choosing to carry. 

You're also in no position to declare anyone patit. 

My advice to you is get yourself in order. 

Learn the definition of patit.  She and now jagmeet Singh are patit.

[MrDoaba]

3 hours ago, GurjantGnostic said:

@Akalifauj

Dude. She'd have to be Amritdhari to be patit. Make up your mind already. 

So either way you cut it, what you're doing is nindya. 

It's either slander she isn't amritdhari or slander she's patit. So you pick which burden you're choosing to carry. 

You're also in no position to declare anyone patit. 

My advice to you is get yourself in order. 

He seems to have an untreatable form of retardism.

 

[Prokharkoo84]

7 hours ago, Akalifauj said:

Why would anyone want to marry a patit woman in the first place.  According to Gurbani she is an ugly woman.  Only insecure men want these type of woman in and are scared around these women.  

He loved a patit woman.  When the insecure boys can't find anything to say, the other person is jealous.  Jealous of what, he married a patit woman who dances around revealing her body and has no sense of Gurbani.  She sings filthy Punjabi music for fun.  Only a fool would marry such a woman.  Smart men who don't care about religion will mess around with these type of girls and give them the boot once they are bored.  

Learn the definition of nindiya (slander).  

Also he's a patit now.  

and you are a patit as you seem have to have ZERO pyar, satkar or nimrata judging by your comment. If getting with a 'patit' is such a paap, then why dont you stop chasing money? aint that against baani aswell?

[Prokharkoo84]

19 hours ago, californiasardar1 said:

 

 

Veerji,

I understand your point of view, and like you and others in this thread, I am disappointed by how Jagmeet chose a moni for a wife and did not adhere to simple, Gursikh standards when it came to wedding celebrations.

 

But what people are overlooking is that:

1.  There aren't enough dastar-wearing, amritdhari Sikh women to go around.  Young keshdhari Sikh men probably outnumber young keshdhari Sikh women by 3 to 1 or 4 to 1.  If all kesdhari Sikh men only married keshdhari Sikh women, either we would end up with a large volume of Singhs who never get married, or Singhs who are unable to find a keshdhari woman would become monay in order to get married.  A Singh with a girl who has shed her kesh is not ideal, but I'd rather see that than see a Singh discard his kesh and marry a girl who has also discarded her kesh.

2. If a girl without her kesh marries a mona Sikh, they will almost certainly raise their children as monay.  But if a girl without her kesh marries a Singh, at least there is some chance that their children will be raised keshdhari (even if the mother never keeps her kesh).  I would rather keshdhari Sikhs marry Sikhs who discard their kesh and at least reproduce rather than have keshdhari Sikhs never marry and never have children.

 

 

People have to understand, there are already very few keshdhari Sikhs, and a disproportionately large percentage of young keshdhari Sikhs are never marrying and never having children.  It's an overall positive thing to see keshdhari Sikhs getting married (even to partners who are not in full Sikhi) and produce children who might carry on our faith.  This is a matter of survival.

Finally someone who is looking at the bigger picture, instead of letting his own insecurities and jelousy get the better of him.

[simran345]

9 hours ago, Akalifauj said:

Smart men who don't care about religion will mess around with these type of girls and give them the boot once they are bored.  

Well they can’t be that smart then if that’s their behaviour.