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Indian Punjabi woman converts to Islam after visit to Pakistan

Not sure if this is true or not, however I have seen it on a lot of websites. If this is true, and I wouldn't be surprised, why? What is the reason that our people are so lenient in comparison to other South Asian religions in marrying out? 

This isn't only targeted against our women, our men are included as well. However, our women are usually the ones prayed on by Pakistani Muslims for marriage and conversion. 

I remember asking one of my fellow cousin's Sikh friend who was married to a Hindu man, how they were planning to raise the child, and she blatantly stated that" God is one, doesn't matter what religion he is," and then she continued to tell me how, "the whole family, including the child, go to the Mandir once a week." Are these cases due to a lack of education of fundamental principles, or is it the leniency of Sikh families? 

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Something is fishy for instance the name of woman's father is mentioned as Manohar Lal. How many Sikhs are there with the name Manohar Lal. Her own name Kiran Bala does not seems like a Sikh one.

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yup a very fishy and dubious story.

The alleged womans father got a first and last name is hindu and she has another surname.

Also we need to remember that Indian media in general is the information propaganda weapon of the tyrannical Indian establishment they want to cause division and conflict between pakistani muslims and Sikhs because of the politically sensitive and closeness of the Khalistan issue so they pushing this story out when in fact it is a non-story.

If she is real person then its probably another case of honeytrap Indian Hindu R&AW agent posing as a sikh woman probably sent on a mission to scout on pakistan's infrastructure. Often Hindu Indian spies do this covert war by deception we seen this in the 1970s/80s both indian R&Aw and pakistani ISI spies were caught and killed or jailed for very long time in their enemies respective countries.

 

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total bakwas! U only have to look at her name. The hindu indian media are clearly embarrased at this, so put her down in the headlines as an apni, not the hindu that she was.

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Non story really the indian media are hyping it up to cause tensions un-necessary its an issue between the woman and the relevant family members and authorities.

sikh channel doing a stupid breaking news thing on it lol saying she was born from hindu family who converted to sikh to marry a sikh guy then her husband died and she was looking for another guy and developed online relationship with pakistani musim guy over social media and used the baiksahi celebrations excuse to cross border and meet her new husband.

btw they saying shes a mum of 3 sad for the kids to have a mum like that but either way it goes to show genuine sikh indian women should not be allowed to go on pilgrimage jatha's to islamic countries especially pakistan because of intense conversion grooming or intelligence agency paid for drama's like this.

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If a Christian goes to Israel and converts to Judaism it most definitely isn't "news worthy" fake or otherwise. 

If it's real who cares anyway?

Totally a media hype propoganda tool for whatever rediculous reason. 

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So according to these videos, she was a Hindu married to a Sikh husband, and was a widower of three children:

 

 

 

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5 hours ago, genie said:

If she is real person then its probably another case of honeytrap Indian Hindu R&AW agent

If that is true than it's shameful to use women for intelligence gathering but i think they have no other option cuz when you send male spy to Pakistan they have to be circumcised which is very painful.

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Dont know why Indian media is showing her as a Sikh. She is Hindu. Got this message on whatsapp

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