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56 minutes ago, BhForce said:

The jihadis have an obsession with either converting Sikhs or pretending to convert Sikhs.

The reason is they see us as a threat.

We're a religion that comes after Islam. That in itself makes us a target, because supposedly Mohammed is the "seal" of the Prophets, and anybody that comes after him is automatically false.

Second, we don't have the problems that a lot of other religions do. No idol worship like Hinduism. No spate of apparent contradictions like in Christianity's creation account. No doctrine of killing non-believers for being non-believers, like Islam.

Third, we are highly visible. It's one thing for a Hindu or a Christian to just be walking around. You can't recognize the devout from the non-devout. But it burns them to see a sabat-surat Sikh proudly wearing a turban and kes.

Fourth, they hate us for our freedoms. The Gurus banned face veils for Bibis in sangat. The Gurus not only allowed, but also encouraged the use of music in worship. Would you rather listen to a lecture or listen to enchanting keertan? They're jealous and that's why they hate us.

Fifth, Guru Gobind Singh ji taught us to be firm like a rock against jihad. Guru Sahib told us not to eat Halal under any circumstance. Halal functions as the spear's edge in Islamic takeover of a society. Guru Sahib taught us not to dishonor our bodies with circumcision. Guru Sahib told us to wear a turban and hold our head high.

I agree with alot of that, they do see us as a threat but also because we got idiots and professional trolls like "raj" who goes to London's hyde park speakers corner not to debate religion but to deliberately trying to provoke and incite muslim's to hate on Sikhs with nonsensical meaningless arguments achieving nothing.

 

That "raj" guy is a walking liability possibly because of low IQ or because he is working for Intelligence agencies as a agency provocateur. Giving the muslim extremists there and the dawah kids try to come up with strategies to undermine Sikhi and Sikhs by using weird propaganda tactics on youtube.

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That stupid video is soooo fake Sikhs do not  hold their chests like that only muslim guys , or keep rudrimala on their wrists no kara even as a fashion statement . He knew all those guys the body language spoke volumes . Timewasters da kaum.

 

I heard today that Shiv sena feel so burnt by our Akal Takht they've made a takht of their own hahahahaha .
imitation is the best form of flattery???

 

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6 hours ago, genie said:

I agree with alot of that, they do see us as a threat but also because we got idiots and professional trolls like "raj" who goes to London's hyde park speakers corner not to debate religion but to deliberately trying to provoke and incite muslim's to hate on Sikhs with nonsensical meaningless arguments achieving nothing.

 

That "raj" guy is a walking liability possibly because of low IQ or because he is working for Intelligence agencies as a agency provocateur. Giving the muslim extremists there and the dawah kids try to come up with strategies to undermine Sikhi and Sikhs by using weird propaganda tactics on youtube.

his beard's trimmed to almost nothing if he put on a topi he could pass for musla ...true his knowledge bank has had a run on it ...sad and dangerous  a lethal combination

 

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7 hours ago, BhForce said:

We're a religion that comes after Islam.

“We’re” not a “religion”, Sikhi is Dharam and it comes directly from ੴ, and has existed in each and every Yug from the beginning. Its the Khalsa Panth that was formalized in 1699 and came “after Islam”. 

If you want to fight against Islam, the first thing you need to do is respect Sikhi’s Dharmic roots and distance it from Abrehamic concepts to give it a distinct identity. The words that we use have an affect on the way we understand things. There is a specific reason the Guru created a specific path with a clear distinct identity. 

7 hours ago, BhForce said:

Second, we don't have the problems that a lot of other religions do. No idol worship like Hinduism.

“We” as in the Sikh community do have problems, but Sikhi is perfect. A prime reason a lot of people disavow themselves as Sikh is because the Sikh community has watered down Sikhi and passed it on as some sort of Abrehamic knockoff with the same rituals the Guru criticizes. 

Second, “Hinduism” isn’t even a religion, it’s a blanket term of Dharam’s which have a common Vedic line. 

7 hours ago, BhForce said:

No doctrine of killing non-believers for being non-believers, like Islam.

Source? And please dont copy paste something from a right wing Anti-Islam website. 

7 hours ago, BhForce said:

You can't recognize the devout from the non-devout.

The same applies to the Sikh community. There are so many Cultiral Amritdhari’s these days.

The modern day “AMRIT-dhari’s” are the equivalent to Christians who get baptized, after all, that’s how low Khand Di Phaul is now, it’s basically like the Christian Baptism. 

7 hours ago, BhForce said:

Halal functions as the spear's edge in Islamic takeover of a society.

You sound like one of those Anti-Muslim comspriacy theorists. You are overhyping Halal food. 

The true “spears edge” of a takeover is the degregation of a communities roots and morals, something that has already happened in the Sikh(ism) community, LoL!  

 

7 hours ago, BhForce said:

They're jealous and that's why they hate us.

Wow you must really hate the Muslim community, why are you trying to create an “us vs them” narrative? I hope you realize that your average Muslim doesn’t care. 

 

 

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1 hour ago, TheeTurbanator said:

“We’re” not a “religion”, Sikhi is Dharam and it comes directly from ੴ, and has existed in each and every Yug from the beginning. Its the Khalsa Panth that was formalized in 1699 and came “after Islam”. 

If you want to fight against Islam, the first thing you need to do is respect Sikhi’s Dharmic roots and distance it from Abrehamic concepts to give it a distinct identity. The words that we use have an affect on the way we understand things. There is a specific reason the Guru created a specific path with a clear distinct identity. 

“We” as in the Sikh community do have problems, but Sikhi is perfect. A prime reason a lot of people disavow themselves as Sikh is because the Sikh community has watered down Sikhi and passed it on as some sort of Abrehamic knockoff with the same rituals the Guru criticizes. 

Second, “Hinduism” isn’t even a religion, it’s a blanket term of Dharam’s which have a common Vedic line. 

Source? And please dont copy paste something from a right wing Anti-Islam website. 

The same applies to the Sikh community. There are so many Cultiral Amritdhari’s these days.

The modern day “AMRIT-dhari’s” are the equivalent to Christians who get baptized, after all, that’s how low Khand Di Phaul is now, it’s basically like the Christian Baptism. 

You sound like one of those Anti-Muslim comspriacy theorists. You are overhyping Halal food. 

The true “spears edge” of a takeover is the degregation of a communities roots and morals, something that has already happened in the Sikh(ism) community, LoL!  

 

Wow you must really hate the Muslim community, why are you trying to create an “us vs them” narrative? I hope you realize that your average Muslim doesn’t care. 

 

 

Bro Guru Pita Ji told us not to eat Halal meat as it is a part of the conversion process FACT. Your average muslim will back up groomer and taquiya filled dawah gangs because not do so would be against the major umma building process. It's a small group who are horrified by them usually the ones who are from Lahore and are educated .

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12 minutes ago, jkvlondon said:

Bro Guru Pita Ji told us not to eat Halal meat as it is a part of the conversion process FACT.

No, the reason why the Guru ordered the Khalsa Panth not to indulge in Halal or any type of ritualized meat was to give Khalsa Sikhs a distinct identity so they would not have to rely on others for meat or be seen eating their type of meat. 

 

This idea that Halal is a part of a conspiracy to take over the world is just anti Muslim propaganda.  

 

15 minutes ago, jkvlondon said:

Youraverage muslim will back up groomer andtaquiya filled dawah gangs because not do so would be against the major umma building process.

Why are you trying so hard to frame the average Muslims like a secret jihadi? Let’s be honest, your average Muslim doesn’t care, and probably is only “Muslim” in name. 

 

 

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2 hours ago, TheeTurbanator said:

No, the reason why the Guru ordered the Khalsa Panth not to indulge in Halal or any type of ritualized meat was to give Khalsa Sikhs a distinct identity so they would not have to rely on others for meat or be seen eating their type of meat. 

 

This idea that Halal is a part of a conspiracy to take over the world is just anti Muslim propaganda.  

 

Why are you trying so hard to frame the average Muslims like a secret jihadi? Let’s be honest, your average Muslim doesn’t care, and probably is only “Muslim” in name. 

 

 

There was a sakhi of a khalsa who was taken from the battlefield whilst unconscious by the mughal army who then sheared his kesh , removed his kakkars and tried to convert him , he managed to break free of his bonds and return to Guru Pita ji who interviewed him about the various aspects of the process it included eating halal meat . So I am not following a conspiracy theory but purataan knowledge .
All it takes for evil to prosper is good men to do nothing.... it is true and until the good muslims who are ibadat minded and sees all as Allah's creation speak up nothing's going to change . Nominal or atheist muslim are many I agree but they can still say not in my name

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30 minutes ago, jkvlondon said:

There was a sakhi of a khalsa who was taken from the battlefield whilst unconscious by the mughal army who then sheared his kesh , removed his kakkars and tried to convert him , he managed to break free of his bonds and return to Guru Pita ji who interviewed him about the various aspects of the process it included eating halal meat .

Source? 

 

30 minutes ago, jkvlondon said:

mughal army 

Modern day Muslims are not the Mughal Army. 

 

 

33 minutes ago, jkvlondon said:

Nominal or atheist muslim are many I agree but they can still say not in my name

“Atheist Muslim” is an oxymoron 

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I don’t agree with any of the videos. This was not as I was raised, but Saudi funded Salafism has changed the nature of how many Muslims are taught and practice religion.  My family lived in peace alongside Sikhs and left the Jalandhar area in peace during partition.  Extended family members have been welcomed back to the old village in Punjab with open arms.

I am British first, have learned to be a proud Punjabi. My Muslim ‘religion’ and ‘culture’ come after, although sadly some people might chastise me for this.

Jagraj Singh’s YouTube videos inspired me to learn more about Sikhism, hence why I come and read this site.

I have visited and worked in many places around the world; spoken to many people; and have had many myths and stereotypes busted by Baha’i, Buddhists, Christian, Hindu, Jains, Jews, Muslims, Sikhs, Zoroastrians etc. I have come to the conclusion: Most people I’ve met just want happiness and a good life - their religion is more of a personal an inward system.  Also don’t believe what you see on the internet, tv or news represents an entire group or country.

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