Did british empire in punjab ever force christianity on sikhs ?

[Guest]

Mughals forcing islam on sikhs need not be narrated. everyone knows it , but whats not known is if Christians during british empire forced xianity onto sikhs . In other areas of india, such as goa , there were inquisitions set up by Portuguese officials , when they were ruled by portugal. But it seems britishers even though christians were opposed to such barbarism and at times intervened against it .

I read somewhere that in punjab during british empire, sikh officers were promised higher pay and promotions if they converted to christianity , but is there any record of force being used , as in torture, or even attempts to undermine sikhism ? I mean something enforced by british empire as such 

[jkvlondon]

the biggest example of forcing was Maharaja Duleep SIngh apart from that there were news stories declaring that Anglicans would bring about the end of sikhi in a decade I remember seeing the photo and smiling , they tried to compete with Harmandir Sahib by building a cathedral  but that didn't remain ....

[Guest AjeetSinghPunjabi]

10 minutes ago, jkvlondon said:

the biggest example of forcing was Maharaja Duleep SIngh apart from that there were news stories declaring that Anglicans would bring about the end of sikhi in a decade I remember seeing the photo and smiling , they tried to compete with Harmandir Sahib by building a cathedral  but that didn't remain ....

oh ya i forgot abt Duleep singh . Also there used to be a clock tower next to harmandar sahib .  Rats still plundering punjab. Fakest religion on planet. Atleast islam is original , with its scriptures in original language and very much unedited. Unlike bible which is edited till now . 

[jkvlondon]

1 hour ago, AjeetSinghPunjabi said:

oh ya i forgot abt Duleep singh . Also there used to be a clock tower next to harmandar sahib .  Rats still plundering punjab. Fakest religion on planet. Atleast islam is original , with its scriptures in original language and very much unedited. Unlike bible which is edited till now . 

islam is copied from Jewish faith and christian and that too in a strange way with a lot of interpolation of superstitious beliefs , tribal customs  you cannot say islam is unedited it had over 14 quran versions which needed to be standardised and then Uthman destroyed ALL first hand sources so who is to say what is edited in his favour  and empire building.  The only scripture in its original form is Guru Granths Sahib all other faiths have numerous edits, interpretations versions  of the originals

[puzzled]

I think one of the main differences between Christians and Muslims is that Christians say Jesus is god while Muslims say he is prophet. Thats what they seem to be arguing about all the time anyway lol 

[TejS]

9 hours ago, jkvlondon said:

islam is copied from Jewish faith and christian and that too in a strange way with a lot of interpolation of superstitious beliefs , tribal customs  you cannot say islam is unedited it had over 14 quran versions which needed to be standardised and then Uthman destroyed ALL first hand sources so who is to say what is edited in his favour  and empire building.  The only scripture in its original form is Guru Granths Sahib all other faiths have numerous edits, interpretations versions  of the originals

Not to mention that the finalized copy of the Qu'ran was compiled more than 200 years after Muhammad's death and that there are reports of over 100 verses being removed from it. I'm just astounded when Muslims claim their book is perfect and has remain unaltered.

[BhForce]

11 hours ago, AjeetSinghPunjabi said:

I read somewhere that in punjab during british empire, sikh officers were promised higher pay and promotions if they converted to christianity , but is there any record of force being used , as in torture, or even attempts to undermine sikhism ?

Never heard of that, though I do agree that they did their best to undermine Sikhism.

For example, they went to all the villages and had all the written matter they could find burned. Whatever survived was hidden.

[BhForce]

9 hours ago, jkvlondon said:

it had over 14 quran versions which needed to be standardised and then Uthman destroyed ALL first hand sources so who is to say what is edited in his favour  and empire building. 

 

57 minutes ago, TejS said:

Not to mention that the finalized copy of the Qu'ran was compiled more than 200 years after Muhammad's death and that there are reports of over 100 verses being removed from it.

IMHO, I agree Koran probably has major problems with its authenticity. 

But, on the other hand, I don't think it really matters. I mean, if, somehow, we could find the "original" Koran, would we then start accepting and following it? No. So what's the point?

I.e., the Koran is barbaric as it is (edited form), and was probably barbaric in its "original", unedited form.

[TejS]

On 5/27/2018 at 10:14 PM, BhForce said:

 

IMHO, I agree Koran probably has major problems with its authenticity. 

But, on the other hand, I don't think it really matters. I mean, if, somehow, we could find the "original" Koran, would we then start accepting and following it? No. So what's the point?

I.e., the Koran is barbaric as it is (edited form), and was probably barbaric in its "original", unedited form.

The point is that the Qu'ran itself states that it was sent down as a result of tampering of the previous scriptures, and therefore it itself is perfect. However, the formation and missing verses demonstrates that the Qu'ran itself suffers from the same dilemma as the Torah or Bible and thus is not perfect, therefore can't be considered to be the final word of God as per the Muslims as God will of course need to send another text down to correct this tampering once again. This little claim renders the whole cult of Islam as being false and disproves the view that it is the final religion. Simple. Of course Muslims will deny this, but, it sets in doubt which is the first step to break them away from the barbaric ideology.

[Guest AjeetSinghPunjabi]

On 5/28/2018 at 8:40 AM, BhForce said:

Never heard of that, though I do agree that they did their best to undermine Sikhism.

For example, they went to all the villages and had all the written matter they could find burned. Whatever survived was hidden.

Woah thats unbelievable.  So they went to each pind and burned SGGS in every gurdwara? how come i never heard of that