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hindu villains of Sikh history . why are they never discussed and why we don't hate them all hindoos like we do with muslims


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20 hours ago, Big_Tera said:

prokakoo you are being childish and immature with your comments and statements. This is a grown up forum not for people like you who generally talk nonsence here! 

 

are you the jathedar of this forum? the same jathedar who comes on here crying you cant get a woman, or makes up b.s stories about getting engaged in punjab (face it no girl wants you in any part of the world lol) or the same jathedar of this forum who was asking for goat meat recipes here LOLOL

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Do you think that if hindu rulers had absolute control of India in the past they would have been kind to Sikhs and other minorities? Those who seek and want to maintain power will do what is necessary for it.  Imagine if some Hindu ruler controlled most of India in the past and along comes a group that says things like 'caste' are nonsense and that everyone is equal. Do you think that group would have been allowed to flourish without impediment (challenging the fundamentals of the ruler's power and authority system?). There never has been any inter-generational golden age where one group has majority control and treated smaller groups equally. Its not just an India problem its a human problem, a good example is Marcus Aurelius (the emperor in Gladiator that Russell Crowes character wants serve , defend and preserve his values). Read his 'Meditations' and its all very noble and great, but in reality even that Philosopher King presided over an empire that wasn't kind to many groups/peoples. 

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1 hour ago, genie said:

The reason why this is because majority of converts to Sikhi have been from hindu background therefore they will have a soft spot for hindus because of family/ancestory ties. Whereas with muslims its either your a follow of the evil abrahamic / middle eastern arab ideology or your not. So indian subcontinent muslims are discouraged to look back at their rich ancestral hindu heritage but see it with distain and look at their abrahamic arab invading masters as being superior to be looked up to. Sikhs look back in history and appreciate the strong hindu's of the past that stood up against outsiders who tried to invade punjab/northern india (ie alexander the greek vs king porus of punjab who was a hindu).

Another reason is because there are specific Hindus who Sikh history shows betrayed Sikhs or activily fought against us, such as the hindu hill raja's and the sly "high caste" brahmin pundits. These hindus were in power and it was in their interests not to lose that power so they wanted Sikhi to fail to get crushed so they aligned themselves with any foreign power that enabled them to accomplish their goals. The rest of the hindu population saw Sikhi as an ideology to liberate themselves from slavery of brahmin hindu pundits and the oppressive hindu kings. That's why so many other lower caste peasantry hindu's (especially jatts) became Sikhs and khalsa soldiers for the faith. Sikhism gave those low caste hindus high caste status when they waged war they were able to rule against their former "upper caste" hindu oppressors.

Also we need to remember that when muslim mughuls and other islamic invaders were hunting Sikhs down because of the distinct appearance of religious keshdhari/amritdhari Sikhs. Many north india hindus gave shelter and also became Sikhs themselves even if their appearance was not that of a Khalsa.

And lastly because hinduism is a more puralistic religions like other dharmic faiths then Sikhism is allowed to exist within its eco-sphere even though fundamentalists like RSS and others try their best to try and control and dominate other sects and faiths within india if you contrast that with Sikhs living within the muslim world and you will see they are severaly restricted in how they are allowed to practrise their faith, their life is under constant stress and threat, their is open discrimination, their women are targeted for grooming and conversions and sexual abuse. For all its faults that hindu majority india has its 10 times better for Sikhs to live there than in pakistan or afghanistan right now.

seem to be forgetting the thousands in villages who betrayed the sikh bibian and kids to mughals of Mir Mannu tofill his prisons whilst he  build the pyramids of Singhs' heads ,some people even sold our women's heads as young boys heads ...all for the princely sum of 10 rupees per head.

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1 hour ago, genie said:

No I haven't forgotten I'm just giving the reasons why Sikhs don't look at hindu's in the same negative light as muslims as the original topic starter was asking. Muslims have done far far worse to non-muslims around the world not just Sikhs which is why there is a universal negative image of islam and muslims in general.

Our problems with Hinduism ideology (are castism and idol worship) and hindu extremists which are generally and largely confined to Indian subcontinent (E.g you don't so militant hindu's in the west/aboard attacking us or non-believers to further the hindu ideology) you do see that in the case of muslim's who attack non-muslims regardless if they harmed them or not the act of being a non-muslim is reasons enough for them. Hindus intermarry with Sikhs and often produce kids that can follow either faith in the case of muslim partners its either islam or no marriage and if there are kids then they will have to follow islam. The cases of musilms grooming, converting and in some cases abducting non-musilm girls also does not happen with hindus or any other religion. It's specific to islam and muhammad's arab abrahamic conquesting and intolerant ideology. So the perverted evil that some musilm extremists commit in the name of Islam gives itself a special hatred and negativity that other faiths don't.

 

dunno they're spreading their influence rapidly as far as I can see by trying to manipulate via bribes of trade.

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Let's not forget that most of the battles that Guru Gobind Singh Ji fought against the Mughals did not only consist of Mughals, it was also Hindu Hill Rajas. They've never been on our side, not sure why a narrative of brotherhood is framed.

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