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Pakistan was created by the Muslim elite from places like Uttar Pradesh. The rich and elite were always the first to find things out during the British empire, when the rich Muslims sniffed out that the British were gnna leave soon they questioned their own economical standing in a Hindu majority country. So they, the elite, came up with a concept of a new Islamic country where they would be ruling and hogging all the money. If you look at the common paki from the pind their situation is no different from your common Punjabi from the pind, the only people that gained from the partition were the rich and elite, your common pind folks are in the same situation as they were 70 years back.  The whole point of Pakistan was so the Muslim rich could stay rich and not be dominated by the rich Hindus.

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On 7/8/2018 at 9:04 PM, proactive said:

There was nothing amazing in Muslims getting their own country, they had majorities in the areas that became Pakistan. They had a population of 95 Million. Compare it with the Sikhs being a minority in every district of Punjab and having only 5.6 Million population. Had the Sikhs had the same population as the Muslims then I am sure they would have got an independent Sikh state in 1947.

If you want to compare the Sikhs with another community have achieved independence then that would have to be the Jews. The Sikh leadership in 1947 no doubt was much inferior to the Jewish leadership in Palestine. 

I might be wrong, but if we have had that kind of demographic advantage, I get the feeling that we would have squandered it somehow.

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On 7/8/2018 at 10:42 PM, TejS said:

You make some very good points, but I disagree with the assertion that Pakistanis don't have an identity. They do, and it's them being Muslims through and through. It's something I hope our people will do as well, and choose Sikhi over our Punjabi identity.

Here's the thing, the Punjabi identity that we all seem to cherish is also the creation of the Mughals. From clothing to food, from language to our ethnic identity, all has had an overwhelming amount of Mughal/Persianate influence. Heck, even the name Punjab/Punjabi was given to us by Jahangir. 

It's for these reasons I think many Sikhs also stray away from their Punjabi identity. Punjabiyat and Punjabi is also an identity that has only been fully realized recently, the 18th century. 

If I could have a say for all our people, I would go the route of the Pakistanis, and have all of us identify solely as Sikhs over Punjabis. Language doesn't matter, as long as you can read the Guru Granth Sahib.

What about hindoo influence on what you've mentioned? Musical instruments?

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On 7/9/2018 at 12:21 AM, MisterrSingh said:

Say what you want about them, but their sianneh (I'm talking their political leadership) had the nous to wrangle their own country from the British and the Indians. That's more foresight than our bhondus managed.

We had fuddu Tara Singh, and when that kanjar went we had the bhen da yaar Sant Fateh Singh.

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